Is Mary the mother of God?

[Victor in Christ]

She is the mother of Jesus Christ!
He is God and she is His mother, so she is the mother of God, the mother of His whole person, mother does not imply source, the mother of His humanity only is a condemned heresy, Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

notice how the Holy Spirit was also present. Christ's physical mother was a believer and received the Holy Spirit, she isn't the Queen of heaven, etc, etc. you start to drift into paganism when you think that. Mary is an adopted woman/daughter of God in the new heavens and new Earth (eternal heaven), just like all of God's children who come to him through his only beloved son Jesus Christ.

If Christ's mother Mary is above Christ, she would have ascended to heaven to be with her husband God, but she didn't. She remained on earth as a believer the son who came from her womb was the Messiah who would deliver her soul. Mary and Joseph offered 2 turtle doves in the Temple....were they for Christ or for them?

 

[solid_core]

That is sadly true.

But we also have to trust that the Holy Spirit led the church councils, the early church leaders,...

I see no reason to believe that the Holy Spirit led the roman empire' church councils who put people under various curses for disobeying.

The early church leaders contradicted each other on almost everything, did not know much and we only have writings that the powerful did not destroy as "sectarian".

 

[tampasteve]

I see no reason to believe that the Holy Spirit led the roman empire' church councils who put people under various curses for disobeying.

The early church leaders contradicted each other on almost everything, did not know much and we only have writings that the powerful did not destroy as "sectarian".

OK, it is clear we will not agree, that is OK. I don't try to convince people on the internet of my beliefs. I gave that up a few years ago as it only causes more strife and stress.

We are both Christians, I believe that. We just see things a little differently.

 

[Lukaris]

There were some people who tried to claim that Jesus Christ was the Son of the Holy Spirit as well as the Father in the time of St. Augustine. That the Virgin Mother is the Mother of God is that His divinity as God, the Son of God is actually properly understood in relation to His incarnation ( John 1:1-5, John 1:14 ).

St. Augustine explains this better in his work: The Enchiridion.
Logos Virtual Library: Saint Augustine: The Enchiridion, 38

 

[solid_core]

From the eternal point of view, Father "emanates" (I do not know what better word to use) the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Mary was used for the earthly mission of Christ, when the power of the Holy Spirit and her body produced the body of Christ. So, she is a mother of His body, not of God as such.

The term "mother of God", just because Jesus is fully God, is too exalted and stretched and brought more problems than light. We should simply use biblical terms.

 

[b4jesustoday]

Mother of God is a biblical term!

Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

 

[b4jesustoday]

The true church was founded by Christ and cannot teach error, any more than Christ can teach error, Christ continues His ministry thru the church of the apostles and thier successors with the very same mission, power, and authority!

Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 acts 1

Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

 

[Pavel Mosko]

I had a friend who came from a church that descended from the Assyrian Church of the East, aka Nestorian Church. It was interesting all the arguments/ discussions we had on this stuff going back to 2006-2012. It was pretty much a rehash of all the stuff from Christian antiquity between saint Cyril and Nestorius.

OK there was one exception, I had to give a prologue of the term theotokos and why it was used to combat Arianism etc.

 

[b4jesustoday]

And Cyril was the saint and doctor of the church, Nestorius just another heretic

 

[Jok]

No. Sorry if I was too long winded.

 

[b4jesustoday]

Are we to just believe you?
Is this an infallible decree?

or can you show me where scripture says “Mary is not the mother of God”?

 

[NBB]

She is the mother of Jesus Christ!
He is God and she is His mother, so she is the mother of God, the mother of His whole person, mother does not imply source, the mother of His humanity only is a condemned heresy, Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Is more accurate to say Jesus is the father of mary since, "before Abraham was, I AM"

 

[plain jayne]

Are we to just believe you?
Is this an infallible decree?

or can you show me where scripture says “Mary is not the mother of God”?

No, brother, the onus is on YOU.

You claim and asset that she does precede, supercede, and rank above God the Father by calling her the Godhead's mother.

You prove it.

Here is something you must consider in your proof.

The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.

The Father is NOT the Son nor the Spirit.
The Son is NOT the Father nor the Spirit.
The Spirit is NOT the Father nor the Son.

Mary is the mother of Jesus. Mary is NOT the mother of the Father nor the Spirit.

You keep on citing that verse of Elizabeth. She did not say the "mother of my God". She said the "mother of my Lord." Capital L lowercase o-r-d.

NOT Capital L-O-R-D. There is a difference. Learn it. Elizabeth was speaking in terms of a savior. NOT the Godhead three in one.

 

[eleos1954]

Is Mary the mother of God?

Jesus speaking ...

Jesus’ Mother and Brothers
(Matthew 12:46–50; Mark 3:31–35)

Luke 8
19Then Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him, but they were unable to reach Him because of the crowd. 20He was told, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see You.”21But He replied, “My mother and brothers are those who hear the word of God and carry it out.”

 

[b4jesustoday]

Lk 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

same Lord!
She is only the mother Jesus who is fully God!

 

[b4jesustoday]

Mary is a perpetual Virgin and has only one son! Jesus

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

 

[eleos1954]

Mark 6:3

Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and the brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us?' And they were offended at him.

Virgin is a young women who has not had a sexual relationship ....

Matthew 1:25
New Living Translation
But he (Joseph) did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

They had sexual relations after Jesus was born ... so Mary was no longer a virgin after that.

 

[Salvadore]

I think that I will stick with the learned teachings of the Early Church Fathers, the Ecumenical Councils, and Martin Luther over the opinions here.[/QUOTE

Mary was the mother of Jesus (who is God). Of course God has always been. He is the Creator of all things.

 

[prodromos]

Women who carry a child in their womb for nine months, give birth to that child and nurture them as they grow, are mothers of those children by definition. Most people have their beginning at conception, with Christ being the only exception. He is the only person who existed prior to His being conceived in Mary's womb. That makes Mary no less His mother. She isn't mother of His flesh, she is mother of the person who is God the Son, just as every mother is mother to every person they have carried in their womb.

What many people fail to understand is that the title "mother of God" is a christological defence of Jesus's humanity. It declares that Jesus who is God, is also man, because he is born to a human woman. The title makes no claim about Mary. It does not seek to elevate her or make her out to be anything other than a human mother. It is solely a statement about who Christ is.

 

[Goodhuman]

The question is: is Virgin Mary mother of Jesus? Is Jesus God? If Jesus is God and Virgin Mary is his mother, why to question?