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Are those ^ the two witnesses...those two gospels?


The Two Witnesses represent the saved "wheat/sheep"
throughout the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"


Rev 11:3-4
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall
prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed
in sackcloth. [1260 days = church age] These are the two olive
trees, and the two candlesticks
standing before the God of the earth.


The two olive tress = Christian saints
The two candlesticks = Christian saints

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"as revealed in the Gospel (the "new song") of the Last Saints"
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-10

Which is?!

Everything I have been preaching here (and more)
Everything on the website (and more)

The five "Kingdoms of Heaven"
The ten virgins [Mat 25] = the ten kings/horns [Dan 7 and Rev 17]
The fact ten "virgins/kings/horns" GIVE their Kingdom to the Beast
The historical fulfillment of "Babylon the Great" (chapter 7)
The historical fulfillment of Daniel's "Abomination" (chapter 8)
The fact that judgment BEGINS at the "house of God" (chapter 8.4)
The Final Judgment and the "Season and Time" (chapter 1.2 and 1.3)
The fact the Great Tribulation was EXCLUSIVE to the ten virgins

etc, etc,

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So, is this the 5th K Gospel? That Harold Camping was the antichrist and that FBR was/is the beast?


The Bible uses the term "Beast" to describe EITHER the
Anti-Christ (Little Horn or False Prophet)... the MAN who
is Satan's chief emissary during the Great Tribulation
-OR- the followers of that man (context determines
whether it's the MAN or the GROUP in view)

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OK Doug...
Now you have sent quotes about the
(5th) ETERNAL "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 5, 7, 8, 19] and
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might
understand the scriptures,


So you have ALREADY AGREED there are TWO KINGDOMS...
now you need to put your big boy pants on and tell me
WHO is the subject of the "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Matthew 22:2 (the Jewish Kingdom) and in
Matthew 25:1-13 (Great Tribulation Kingdom)


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The Bible uses the term "Beast" to describe EITHER the
Anti-Christ (Little Horn or False Prophet)... the MAN who
is Satan's chief emissary during the Great Tribulation
-OR- the followers of that man (context determines
whether it's the MAN or the GROUP in view)

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More specifically....

In Revelation 13:
first beast
as man - 8th king of Revelation 17:11
as a kingdom - the end times Roman Empire
second beast - the false prophet

In Daniel 7:
a beast - the little horn person, 7th king of Revelation 17:10
________________________________________

The Antichrist is not referred to as a beast. He is Antichrist only while in the role as the (perceived) King of Israel messiah for awhile.
 
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So you have ALREADY AGREED there are TWO KINGDOMS...
now you need to put your big boy pants on and tell me
WHO is the subject of the "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Matthew 22:2 (the Jewish Kingdom) and in
Matthew 25:1-13 (Great Tribulation Kingdom)
No I have not agreed there are two Kingdoms. Whether a person is a Jew, a gentile, or a great tribulation saint - there is only one Kingdom of Heaven, and only one way to enter.
 
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You fail to read and understand the Prophesies that vividly describe the Lords punishment of the nations by fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. It is only a one day event and is mainly directed at the Middle east. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Psalms 83
The rest of the world will dive for shelter and most will survive. A OWG will be formed, but we Christians will go to live in the then; cleared and cleansed holy Land.

The New earth does not come until after the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-7


Those are all your interpretations... and they are all wrong.

Before you can even START to talk about the end-times
you need to explain the:

(1) Different "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/

(2) The Relationship between Daniel's Fourth Beast
and the Revelation Beast and the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" and the experiences of the
"ten virgins" [Mat 25] and the ten "kings/horns"
[Dan 7 and Rev 17

(3) The mysteries that were "sealed" [Dan 12:8-10]

(4) The "Abomination" seen by the Last saints [Mat 24:15]
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8

(5) Mystery Babylon
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-7

With all due respect... if you cannot explain all of these
Biblical mysteries the Bible PROMISED the Last Saints
"shall understand" [Dan 12:8-10] then you are not
qualified or capable of offering an "informed opinion"
on end-time EVENTS. It's as simple as that.


BTW... I am STILL waiting for you to send me
ONE VERSE that contradicts anything I have said.
You just keep sending your "feelings" and thinking
they are a substitute for Scripture. They are not.

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Those are all your interpretations... and they are all wrong.

Before you can even START to talk about the end-times
you need to explain the:

(1) Different "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/

(2) The Relationship between Daniel's Fourth Beast
and the Revelation Beast and the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" and the experiences of the
"ten virgins" [Mat 25] and the ten "kings/horns"
[Dan 7 and Rev 17

(3) The mysteries that were "sealed" [Dan 12:8-10]

(4) The "Abomination" seen by the Last saints [Mat 24:15]
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8

(5) Mystery Babylon
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-7

With all due respect... if you cannot explain all of these
Biblical mysteries the Bible PROMISED the Last Saints
"shall understand" [Dan 12:8-10] then you are not
qualified or capable of offering an "informed opinion"
on end-time EVENTS. It's as simple as that.


BTW... I am STILL waiting for you to send me
ONE VERSE that contradicts anything I have said.
You just keep sending your "feelings" and thinking
they are a substitute for Scripture. They are not.

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@5thKingdom What I want to see from you - is your end times timeline chart of the major events of the 7 year 70th week.

My chart....

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I said Lucifer. And the two of you think alot alike.
Isaiah 14:13 You said in your heart: "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north.

So when exactly are you planning to ascend into heaven? Will you and Lucifer be traveling together?
“That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, He that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: It stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; It hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: The worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.” Isaiah 14:4–11 (KJV 1900)
 
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No I have not agreed there are two Kingdoms. Whether a person is a Jew, a gentile, or a great tribulation saint - there is only one Kingdom of Heaven, and only one way to enter.


So you are saying that JESUS was lying when He taught
about the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"?

And I am still WAITING for you to explain the
"Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 22:2 and the
"Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1

Why are you not addressing those "Kingdoms of Heaven"...
is it because you cannot. Is it because they immediately
destroy your current "gospel"?



Mat 13:24-30
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying,
The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed
good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came
and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when
the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared
the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and
said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field?
from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy
hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that
we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye
gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest
I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares,
and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat
into my barn.



Mat 13:36-43
Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house:
and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the
parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them,
He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the
world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares
are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them
is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers
are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned
in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man
shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his
kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity
;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall
be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine
forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears
to hear, let him hear.


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Kingdom of Wheat and Tares
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(1) The "Kingdom of Heaven" is an earthly Kingdom

(2) The sower of good seed represents the Lord Jesus Christ

(3) The sower of bad seed represents Satan, the King of Babylon

(4) The "Word of the Kingdom" (the seed) is the Gospel of
the New Testament

(5) The "field" represents the world, as the Gospel goes forth
to both Jew and Gentile

(6) The "fruit" of the field (both wheat and tares) represents
the (3rd) "Kingdom of Heaven"

(7) The "Word of the Kingdom" gathers good fish and bad fish
during the (3rd) Christian Kingdom

(8) The (saved) "wheat" and the (unsaved) "tares" LOOK similar,
and grow together until the end-of-the-age

(9) At the end-of-the-age, the "wheat and tares"
(good fish/bad fish) are separated in the "Final Harvest"

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“That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, He that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth. The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us. Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: It stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; It hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: The worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.” Isaiah 14:4–11 (KJV 1900)

Isaiah 14:13 You said in your heart: "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north.

So you believe you will ascend into heaven like Lucifer believes he will.
Were you planning to schedule the same flight or were you planning a separate flight?

When is your flight scheduled to leave, at the fall of Babylon?
 
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@5thKingdom What I want to see from you - is your end times timeline chart of the major events of the 7 year 70th week.


Doug... I am STILL WAITING for you to put on your big boy pants
and tell me WHO is the subject of the "Kingdom of Heaven" in
Matthew 22:2 (the Jewish Kingdom) and WHO is the subject
of the "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 25:1.


Don't DEFLECT away from the issue.
AFTER you have addressed those verses
THAN I will discuss the errors in you chart.


But do not DEFLECT from my questions.
You are neither qualified or capable of talking about
the end-times when you INTENTIONALLY IGNORE
the "Kingdoms of Heaven" in Mat 22 and Mat 25

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You need to read your bible according to Jesus. He blinded the Pharisees so they could not understand. And you agree with them in most things?

I believe like Jesus. The meek inherit the earth.

Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

You believe like Lucifer, you believe you will ascend Into heaven.

Isaiah 14:13 You said in your heart: "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north.
 
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OK, you believe exactly like the king of Babylon. Maybe you both have the same teacher.
LUCIFER—brilliant star, a title given to the king of Babylon (Isa. 14:12) to denote his glory.

Easton, M. G. (1893). In Easton’s Bible dictionary. New York: Harper & Brothers.
 
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When is your flight scheduled to leave, at the fall of Babylon?


Here is the FALL OF BABYLON


Rev:17:8
The Beast that thou saw was, and is not; and shall ascend
out of the Bottomless Pit, and go into Perdition: and they
[the Foolish Virgins of the 4th Beast] that dwell on the earth
[during the Great tribulation] shall wonder, whose name
were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation
of the world, when they behold the Beast that was,
and is not, and yet is [when the Revelations Beast arises].


The Beast (Kingdom) that John saw "was" because Satan's
spiritual Kingdom "was" ruling before being "bound" at the Cross.
The Beast "is not" because Satan's Kingdom had been "bound" in
the Bottomless Pit during the time John was seeing the vision...
during the Great Commission of the Christian Kingdom.


The same Beast (the same Kingdom) will "ascend out of the
Bottomless Pit" at the sound of the 5th Trumpet
(also the "1st Woe"). [Rev 9:1]


The same Kingdom of Satan (the same 7-Headed Beast)
will "go into Perdition" at the end of the "2nd Woe"
as Satan's Kingdom (represented by the Revelation Beast)
is "given unto the Burning Flame" [Dan 7:12] and/or
"cast alive into the Lake-of-Fire" [Rev 19:20].


The Beast that "was" represents the Kingdom of Satan
during Daniel's (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom and during the
(2nd) Jewish Kingdom.


The Beast that "is not" represents the Kingdom of Satan
during the (3rd) Christian Kingdom - while Satan was "bound"
in the Bottomless Pit.


The Beast "ascending" out of the Bottomless Pit represents
the Kingdom of Satan during the "1st Woe" or "Fifth Trumpet"
or FIRST Revelation Beast.


And the Beast that "goes into Perdition" is the Kingdom
of Satan as it's destroyed after the "2nd Woe", when the
Fourth Beast, the "Kingdom of Babylon", is Judged by God
and "cast alive" into eternal torment of the "Burning Flame"
or "Lake-of-Fire".


Rev 17:9
And here is the mind which hath wisdom, The SEVEN HEADS
are seven Mountains [seven Kings/Kingdoms] on which the
Woman [Babylon] sitteth [rules over]. 10 And there are
Seven Kings; FIVE ARE FALLEN, AND ONE IS, and the
other [the Seventh King] is not yet come: [is still a future
event after John's vision] and when he comes he must
continue for a SHORT SPACE [aka, Satan's "Little Season"].


The SEVEN HEADS on the Revelations Beast (ruled by the
"harlot" Babylon) represent seven "Kings" and/or "Mountains".
These Kings are also shown as the SEVEN HEADS of Daniel's
four Kingdoms.


They are one head/king from Daniel's (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom (Lion),
another head/king of Daniel's (2nd) Jewish Kingdom (Bear).
It includes four "heads/kings" from Daniel's (3rd) Christian Kingdom
(Leopard) and the last head/king is from the (4th) Great Tribulation
Kingdom... namely, the Anti-Christ ("Little Horn" or "False Prophet"),
for a total of seven "Heads", seven "Kings", seven "Mountains".


Five Kings "are fallen" because (when the Apostle John saw
the vision) the head/king from Daniel's (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom
and the head/king from Daniel's (2nd) Jewish Kingdom were both
"fallen". In addition, three (out of the four) heads/kings from
Daniel's (3rd) Christian Kingdom were also "fallen"... for a total
of FIVE FALLEN KINGS. The last remaining head/king of the
New Testament Kingdom had not yet "fallen" because the
last head/king in the (3rd) Christian Kingdom was also the
author of the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John.


The one King that "is not yet come" [Rev 17:10] is the
"Little Horn" or "False Prophet" of the (4th) Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven". This is the Seventh "King" that arises
after the "testimony" of the Two Witnesses was "finished"
(after the Great Commission), when Satan is "loosened"
from the Bottomless Pit and given spiritual "dominion"
over the "Wise Virgins" during the "1st Woe".


It's the Seventh King that led the "Ten Virgins" out of the
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven", as we "went forth"
into the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
It's the Seventh King that "overcomes" and then "kills"
the Saints during the Reign of the First Revelation "Beast".
However, the Seventh King only "continues a short space"
[Rev 17:10]. The Seventh King suffers an apparently fatal
wound at the END of the "1st Woe". But later he's resurrected
as the EIGHTH "King"... during the "2nd Woe" or Sixth Trumpet.


Rev 17:11 And the Beast that was, and is not, even he
is THE EIGHTH, and is OF THE SEVEN, and [the Eighth
Head/King] goeth into Perdition.


The EIGHTH King of the Revelations Beast is "of the seven"
because that King is the same "False Prophet" (the 7th King)
after he has been 'resurrected' from his near fatal "wound",
suffered at the end of the "1st Woe". The Eighth King is the
same False Prophet ruling over the First Revelations Beast.
This shows the Fourth Kingdom during the 6th Trumpet
(the "2nd Woe").


It is this Eighth King that made everyone (living in the
4th Kingdom) worship the "image" of the First Beast.
It was this Eighth King that caused everyone (in the
4th Beast) to take the "Mark of the Beast". It was
this Eighth King that was cast alive into the "Burning Flame"
or "Lake-of-Fire" at the end of the 4th Kingdom - as the
Eighth King "goeth into Perdition".


The "Mystery of Babylon" is a New Testament Commentary
on Daniel's Four Kingdoms... from the standpoint of the Apostle
John (the last of four New Testament "Kings"), living before the
Great Commission was finished - and before Satan is "loosened"
from the Bottomless Pit and given "dominion" to rule (through
his chief emissary the Anti-Christ) during the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven".


These are SOME of the "closed-up" and "sealed" Biblical
mysteries the Bible PROMISED the Last Saints on earth
"shall understand" [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10] and SOME
of the Biblical mysteries the Bible PROMISED the Last
Saints would "prophesy again" as the Seventh Trumpet
"begins to sound".


Rev 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God
should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants
the prophets. [this is the prophecy of the Last Saints]



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You need to read your bible according to Jesus. He blinded the Pharisees so they could not understand. And you agree with them in most things?
I believe like Jesus, the meek shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
You believe like Lucifer, you believe you shall ascend into heaven
Isaiah 14:13 You said in your heart: "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north.
 
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