Then your god is a failure. If he were omniscient and omnipotent, he could not have failed. Therefore, your god is either NOT omniscient or NOT omnipotent or not either.
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So what evidence did you determine falsified the teleological argument?
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Actually, maybe you should direct this question to Tinker Grey from post 607? I would, however, be interested in these events or dreams which led you to the conclusion that it wasn´t god speaking to you after all.
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What if He has already given you enough significant evidence and you have chosen not to believe it?
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I don't want to change the truth I want to know what is true from what is false.
We don't get to choose our beliefs, we are either convinced or not by how we evaluate the evidence we have. Can God show me sufficient evidence for me to believe? If he does exist he should be able to.
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Do you just think that people should believe you when you say something?
Why do you believe God exists?
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No. It is unconvincing to me. I don't disregard anything out of hand like you are suggesting. It took me two years or so to deconvert and it was an unwilling and emotionally painful process. So, no I did not just disregard evidence I investigated the evidence and found it unconvincing.
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I just said that one does not choose to believe or not. Either the evidence is convincing or it is not. Either your god can provide that or it cannot.
No. I cannot choose to believe that which I'm convinced of. I cannot choose to disbelieve that which is convincing.
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Indeed. I left the faith reluctantly perhaps even unwillingly. I left my family and friends dismayed. I lost some of those friends. This was not something I chose. It's what I had to do to maintain my integrity.
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