If an afterlife exists

[Robban]

What language did you say he wrote in?

I did not say,
But it is believed Hebrew,

Creation was brought into being through ten utterences,
also believed to be Hebrew letters.

I have no reason to doubt it, if it was not so, so what?

 

[Lazarus Long]

I did not say,
But it is believed Hebrew,

Creation was brought into being through ten utterences,
also believed to be Hebrew letters.

I have no reason to doubt it, if it was not so, so what?

The earliest record of proto Hebrew is estimated to be ~800bc so probably not, it casts further doubt on the stories told, don't you think. BTW I like the description allegedly written by Moses of his funeral.

 

[eleos1954]

Precisely you believe the words of men.

and so do you ;o)

 

[Larniavc]

What do others think?

I wonder if a person who lived their life with an acquired brain injury who was unable to move more than their eyes for all of their life would be healed.

 

[Lazarus Long]

and so do you ;o)

No I believe evidence.

 

[Robban]

The earliest record of proto Hebrew is estimated to be ~800bc so probably not, it casts further doubt on the stories told, don't you think. BTW I like the description allegedly written by Moses of his funeral.

The Pentateuch is written in third person.

Moses would not have written about himself in third person.

Moses could not have composed the last eight verses
describing his passing.

So, Moses did not compose the Torah.

G-d composed it, Moses just wrote it down.

He writes about his own passing from this world.

As the Talmud tells us,
"G-d dictated and Moses wrote with tears."

 

[Lazarus Long]

The Pentateuch is written in third person.

Moses would not have written about himself in third person.

Moses could not have composed the last eight verses
describing his passing.

So, Moses did not compose the Torah.

G-d composed it, Moses just wrote it down.

He writes about his own passing from this world.

As the Talmud tells us,
"G-d dictated and Moses wrote with tears."

And it was written in Egyptian, yes?

 

[Robban]

And it was written in Egyptian, yes?

I have never given it any thought,
but now come to think of it,

I vaguely remember that Pharaoh could speak as many languages as their were steps up to his throne, 70.

Moses too, plus one.

 

[eleos1954]

No I believe evidence.

Is your evidence something you have seen and or "proved" yourself ... or do you rely on the writings of men?

 

[pleinmont]

Is your evidence something you have seen and or "proved" yourself ... or do you rely on the writings of men?

The Bible is the production of human authors with very active imaginations.

 

[Robban]

The Bible is the production of human authors with very active imaginations.

All tellings are coloured by the personality of the one telling.
What is alive is alive,
what is dead is dead,

and the dead have no imagination.

 

[Lazarus Long]

Is your evidence something you have seen and or "proved" yourself ... or do you rely on the writings of men?

My evidence is evidence what evidence do you have for "quotes" from a god to a man of dust?

 

[eleos1954]

My evidence is evidence what evidence do you have for "quotes" from a god to a man of dust?

Your "evidence" is based on writings of men (theories) in regard to how the universe began. There is no way to measure every particle and the "varying" condition(s) of those particle(s) that must have actually occurred when the universe began, with the result being living organisms (much less all the varying conditions that must have taken place to produce the vastly different types of living organisms) ... they (all conditions) (millions, billions, trillions of them) can only be theorized and it will always be that way.

We know when we die our bodies do ... in fact ... eventually turn to dust just as stated in Gods Word ... that is a scientific fact and a biblical fact.

My evidence is evidence (theory is theory)

No ... science has theories ... theory is theory. It's what some choose to believe ... believe scientific theory(s). People believe that ... ok .... some people don't believe that ... also ok.

Why do you think it's called the THEORY of Evolution? Because that's what it is .... a theory.

Either way ... it boils down to what a person chooses to believe and there are many many many beliefs ... scientific or otherwise.

 

[pleinmont]

I think science will explain everything eventually, not religion.

 

[Dan1988]

In the unlikely event of there being an afterlife what will it be like? Would we be the same people we are here on earth or totally different? If someone passes into the afterlife as a child, will they stay as such, not growing into an adult? If a person has a disability or illness will they continue to suffer from it?

What do others think?

We have a documented account of what the after life is like. The One who came back from the dead told us that we will all live forever in one of two places.
He told us that heaven is far better than we could possibly imagine, but He also said that hell be far worse than we could possibly imagine. Most people would agree that burns are the worst kind of pain we can experience. He said that those who end up in hell will continue to burn forever, while fully conscience.
Those who go to heaven will receive a glorified perfect body, and those who go to hell will receive a sick and diseased body.
If a child dies they also receive a perfect glorified and ageless body. The same applies for the disabled person.

 

[pleinmont]

We have a documented account of what the after life is like. The One who came back from the dead told us that we will all live forever in one of two places.
He told us that heaven is far better than we could possibly imagine, but He also said that hell be far worse than we could possibly imagine. Most people would agree that burns are the worst kind of pain we can experience. He said that those who end up in hell will continue to burn forever, while fully conscience.
Those who go to heaven will receive a glorified perfect body, and those who go to hell will receive a sick and diseased body.
If a child dies they also receive a perfect glorified and ageless body. The same applies for the disabled person.

No one has ever come back from the dead, including Jesus, imo.

 

[Robban]

No one has ever come back from the dead, including Jesus, imo.

But putting a seed into the soil, does not the seed have die first to be able to sprout forth anew?

 

[solid_core]

In the unlikely event of there being an afterlife what will it be like? Would we be the same people we are here on earth or totally different? If someone passes into the afterlife as a child, will they stay as such, not growing into an adult? If a person has a disability or illness will they continue to suffer from it?

What do others think?

Because its practically proved today that our conciousness continues to exist after our body stops functioning, its highly likely, not unlikely.

 

[Robban]

But putting a seed into the soil, does not the seed have die first to be able to sprout forth anew?

The above was just an hasty thought that came.

Was death ever on the program to begin with?

Is it not only a part of this worlds falseness?

Truth cannot die, one who is one with truth do not die,
they pass on.

Thereof, what is alive is alive,
what is dead is dead.

 

[pleinmont]

Because its practically proved today that our conciousness continues to exist after our body stops functioning, its highly likely, not unlikely.

How has that been proved?