Americans will never allow Bernie & Liz to stomp on our freedoms

[The Barbarian]

If that's the way you see it tulc, that's ok with me.

I know the truth because I took the time to find the truth.

So who else but Trump says that?

 

[tulc]

If that's the way you see it tulc, that's ok with me.

Ahhh! thank you for that.

I know the truth because I took the time to find the truth.

Really? Can you post a video clip of someone running for President as a Democrat who said they'd take someones guns away from them without due process? Because there was one posted with a Republican saying that very thing. So...doesn't that mean you wont be voting for someone who so dislikes the Second, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution?
tulc(knows some truth as well)

 

[Charlie24]

So who else but Trump says that?

I don't know who will determine or how they determine who is dangerous and should not possess a firearm.

But I for one am happy that Trump is willing to take guns from these people, and see that they cannot get a permit for a firearm.

 

[Charlie24]

Ahhh! thank you for that.


Really? Can you post a video clip of someone running for President as a Democrat who said they'd take someones guns away from them without due process? Because there was one posted with a Republican saying that very thing. So...doesn't that mean you wont be voting for someone who so dislikes the Second, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution?
tulc(knows some truth as well)

Man you still don't know what that meeting was about when Trump said this!

You still don't know who he wants to take the firearms from!

And i think it's because you don't care! It's Trump said it, Trump did it...

 

[tulc]

I don't know who will determine or how they determine who is dangerous and should not possess a firearm.

But I for one am happy that Trump is willing to take guns from these people, and see that they cannot get a permit for a firearm.

Well...unfortunately for you he has since walked that position back...and then back again and then back again. In fact, it appears he just favors who ever he talked to the last time.
Trump’s shifting stances on gun background checks
tulc(hasn't seen this much flipping and flopping since he watched the gymnasts at the Olympics)

 

[Charlie24]

Well...unfortunately for you he has since walked that position back...and then back again and then back again. In fact, it appears he just favors who ever he talked to the last time.
Trump’s shifting stances on gun background checks
tulc(hasn't seen this much flipping and flopping since he watched the gymnasts at the Olympics)

That's not true tulc!

When you find out who and why concerning what he said, you can come back and apologize. It's ok, I will accept the apology.

 

[The Barbarian]

Man you still don't know what that meeting was about when Trump said this!

Actually, I do. It was in a WH meeting on school safety.

You still don't know who he wants to take the firearms from!

Anyone.

And i think it's because you don't care!

You're right. I don't care who it is he wants to deprive of due process. If he can do it to anyone he can do it to the rest of us. That's why it's important to fight for the Constitutional rights of people you otherwise detest.

It's Trump said it, Trump did it...

Yep. Hard to believe any American would advocate that, but he did.

 

[Charlie24]

Actually, I do. It was in a WH meeting on school safety.



Anyone.



You're right. I don't care who it is he wants to deprive of due process. If he can do it to anyone he can do it to the rest of us. That's why it's important to fight for the Constitutional rights of people you otherwise detest.



Yep. Hard to believe any American would advocate that, but he did.

Ok, whatever you want to believe is ok with me.

But I know better!

 

[tulc]

That's not true tulc!

sorry, but that link I posted showed what I said was correct. You can follow the links in the article and see it for yourself.

When you find out who and why concerning what he said, you can come back and apologize.

For what? I honestly don't see why I'd have to apologize for simply posting the truth.

It's ok, I will accept the apology.

Well, that's very kind of you, if you could explain what I have to apologize for that might help as well.
tulc(is just curious)

 

[Charlie24]

sorry, but that link I posted showed what I said was correct. You can follow the links in the article and see it for yourself.


For what? I honestly don't see why I'd have to apologize for simply posting the truth.


Well, that's very kind of you, if you could explain what I have to apologize for that might help as well.
tulc(is just curious)

Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'

 

[Charlie24]

Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'

It's ok, I will accept the apology.

 

[The Barbarian]

Ok, whatever you want to believe is ok with me.

But I know better!

Instead of denial of things already in evidence, it might be smarter to find a way to accept them.

 

[Charlie24]

Instead of denial of things already in evidence, it might be smarter to find a way to accept them.

Refer to post#70

 

[The Barbarian]

Refer to post#70

I already pointed out to you that it was at a school safety meeting that Trump said he wanted to seize our guns and worry about due process later.

He sees the Constitution as an impediment to rule by decree. And it is. For which we should all be very grateful.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't know who will determine or how they determine who is dangerous and should not possess a firearm.

But I for one am happy that Trump is willing to take guns from these people, and see that they cannot get a permit for a firearm.

It's a huge mistake on your part. Dictators always begin that way. "Don't worry, we'll only violate the rights of bad people."

And that's how everyone else loses their rights.

 

[Charlie24]

I already pointed out to you that it was at a school safety meeting that Trump said he wanted to seize our guns and worry about due process later.

He sees the Constitution as an impediment to rule by decree. And it is. For which we should all be very grateful.

Trump was angry at what had taken place.

He will follow the Constitution in his new gun control amendments.

Nothing has changed in his view of the 2nd amendment.

You have nothing to worry about.

 

[Charlie24]

It's a huge mistake on your part. Dictators always begin that way. "Don't worry, we'll only violate the rights of bad people."

And that's how everyone else loses their rights.

My Lord, you can't really believe that?

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
It's a huge mistake on your part. Dictators always begin that way. "Don't worry, we'll only violate the rights of bad people."

And that's how everyone else loses their rights.

My Lord, you can't really believe that?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller

Did you really not understand this?

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
Ronald Reagan

"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
David Hume

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump was angry at what had taken place.

He will follow the Constitution in his new gun control amendments.

He has never followed the Constitution. He was dismayed and angered that he could not repeal the ban on bribery by executive order. He was shocked to learn that he couldn't have Hillary Clinton arrested.

 

[Charlie24]

Barbarian observes:
It's a huge mistake on your part. Dictators always begin that way. "Don't worry, we'll only violate the rights of bad people."

And that's how everyone else loses their rights.



First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller

Did you really not understand this?

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
Ronald Reagan

"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
David Hume

You are well ahead of your time, Barbarian.

Calm down, it's going to be ok, my friend.