The God of the Bible

[Deus Vult!]

The Muslims claim the God of the Bible is the same God of the Koran. He is not!

The Bible says that "there is one God, there is no other God besides me, I know of none."

The God of the Bible sent His Son to die for our sins. The God of the Koran sent his messenger Muhammad to proclaim, "kill the infidel if he believes not."

The God of the Koran only lives in the mind of its believer. In other words, he does not exist as a being!

In fact "Al-Lah" is the false moon deity of the Arabian peoples of antiquity. "Akbar" is the false sun god. Just Google Lah and then Google Akbar and prove me wrong.
"Al" is coming from the Aramiac "El" which signifies a diety. God in the Hebrew Old Testament has many names showing this, examples would be: Elohim, El Shaddai, El Elyion,etc. Names like Elijah ( Yah is God), IsraEL (one who wrestles with God), IshmaEL,etc, would be more examples of this.
In the quran you find multiple false deities that were worshipped in Arabia before muhammad.
Here are some examples of multiple false gods found in the quran: Al-Lah( moon god), Akbar (sun god), Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah, Minat,(the three daughters of Al-Lah)etc. The quran is a phone book of false gods... This is why a crescent moon is found on top of the mosques that muslims go into for their worship of Al-Lah. It is because muhammad (a false prophet and antichrist) taught and demanded the worship of Lah under the threat of death or taxation. These are the undisputed facts. The cult of muhammad is not an "Abrahamic" religion, in fact it is the opposite of an Abrahamic religion because they worship NOT the God of Abraham.

 

[All4Christ]

In fact "Al-Lah" is the false moon deity of the Arabian peoples of antiquity. "Akbar" is the false sun god. Just Google Lah and then Google Akbar and prove me wrong.
"Al" is coming from the Aramiac "El" which signifies a diety. God in the Hebrew Old Testament has many names showing this, examples would be: Elohim, El Shaddai, El Elyion,etc. Names like Elijah ( Yah is God), IsraEL (one who wrestles with God), IshmaEL,etc, would be more examples of this.
In the quran you find multiple false deities that were worshipped in Arabia before muhammad.
Here are some examples of multiple false gods found in the quran: Al-Lah( moon god), Akbar (sun god), Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah, Minat,(the three daughters of Al-Lah)etc. The quran is a phone book of false gods... This is why a crescent moon is found on top of the mosques that muslims go into for their worship of Al-Lah. It is because muhammad (a false prophet and antichrist) taught and demanded the worship of Lah under the threat of death or taxation. These are the undisputed facts. The cult of muhammad is not an "Abrahamic" religion, in fact it is the opposite of an Abrahamic religion because they worship NOT the God of Abraham.

Al means “The” in Arabic, not God. “Illah” means God or deity. The most logical understanding is that they follow the same pattern of contraction that Aramaic and Hebrew follow. Al Illah contracts to Allah. Another form of the word God in Aramaic is Eelah or Elloha. That’s what the earliest Aramaic New Testment used when translating “My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?”

Check out Strongs Concordance

The KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 0426
Original Word: hhla
Word Origin: corresponding to (0433)
Transliterated Word: 'elahh (Aramaic)'
Phonetic Spelling: 'el-aw'
Parts of Speech: Noun Masculine
Definitions:
- god, God
- god, heathen deity
- God (of Israel)




ETA: I’m not saying that ‘El isn’t a root for the word God in Semitic languages. However, Al does not mean God in Arabic. Also, while Allah was used in pre-Islamic Arabic, it still meant “The primary God”...ie The God. Mainstream Muslims hold that Allah was used from historic times, but was corrupted by pagan worship. Either way, the Quran prohibits moon worship, so stating that they worship a moon god is false. While I disagree with Islam (obviously), I still believe it is important to accurately represent the facts.

 

[Gwendolynz]

In fact "Al-Lah" is the false moon deity of the Arabian peoples of antiquity. "Akbar" is the false sun god. Just Google Lah and then Google Akbar and prove me wrong.
"Al" is coming from the Aramiac "El" which signifies a diety. God in the Hebrew Old Testament has many names showing this, examples would be: Elohim, El Shaddai, El Elyion,etc. Names like Elijah ( Yah is God), IsraEL (one who wrestles with God), IshmaEL,etc, would be more examples of this.
In the quran you find multiple false deities that were worshipped in Arabia before muhammad.
Here are some examples of multiple false gods found in the quran: Al-Lah( moon god), Akbar (sun god), Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah, Minat,(the three daughters of Al-Lah)etc. The quran is a phone book of false gods... This is why a crescent moon is found on top of the mosques that muslims go into for their worship of Al-Lah. It is because muhammad (a false prophet and antichrist) taught and demanded the worship of Lah under the threat of death or taxation. These are the undisputed facts. The cult of muhammad is not an "Abrahamic" religion, in fact it is the opposite of an Abrahamic religion because they worship NOT the God of Abraham.

From a person who was deeply immersed in Islamic culture your ideas are laughable.

 

[Deus Vult!]

From a person who was deeply immersed in Islamic culture your ideas are laughable.

It truly is laughable that one claiming to be "immersed" in Islamic culture doesn't know what gods they are worshipping. The god Lah is who they worship by name. What more evidence could you possibly ask for ?

 

[Deus Vult!]

Al means “The” in Arabic, not God. “Illah” means God or deity. The most logical understanding is that they follow the same pattern of contraction that Aramaic and Hebrew follow. Al Illah contracts to Allah. Another form of the word God in Aramaic is Eelah or Elloha. That’s what the earliest Aramaic New Testment used when translating “My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?”

Check out Strongs Concordance

The KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 0426
Original Word: hhla
Word Origin: corresponding to (0433)
Transliterated Word: 'elahh (Aramaic)'
Phonetic Spelling: 'el-aw'
Parts of Speech: Noun Masculine
Definitions:
- god, God
- god, heathen deity
- God (of Israel)




ETA: I’m not saying that ‘El isn’t a root for the word God in Semitic languages. However, Al does not mean God in Arabic. Also, while Allah was used in pre-Islamic Arabic, it still meant “The primary God”...ie The God. Mainstream Muslims hold that Allah was used from historic times, but was corrupted by pagan worship. Either way, the Quran prohibits moon worship, so stating that they worship a moon god is false. While I disagree with Islam (obviously), I still believe it is important to accurately represent the facts.

"AL" DOES NOT MEAN "THE" IN ARABIC. complete non sense. "Lah" is in fact the false lunar deity of the arabic people in antiquity. Again just google it. Look up "Akbar", Al-Uzzah, Al-Lat, Minat, etc. These are all false deities of ancient arabia. All these are found by name in the quran... just to prove that you are totally incorrect, are you then saying the references to "Al-Lat" and "Al-Uzzah" in the quran are saying that this in english are to be rendered "The Uzzah" and "The Lat"?
This is proven non sense. In fact these names Lat and Uzzah are denoted with "Al" because they were held before, during, and after the time muhammad, as being deities; and so "Al" was introduced to these names because - again - the arabian people of antiquity held these to be gods in their polytheistic culture. These are the facts. Irrelevant if you want to believe it or not, it is a matter of objective history.

 

[All4Christ]

"AL" DOES NOT MEAN "THE" IN ARABIC. complete non sense. "Lah" is in fact the false lunar deity of the arabic people in antiquity. Again just google it. Look up "Akbar", Al-Uzzah, Al-Lat, Minat, etc. These are all false deities of ancient arabia. All these are found by name in the quran... just to prove that you are totally incorrect, are you then saying the references to "Al-Lat" and "Al-Uzzah" in the quran are saying that this in english are to be rendered "The Uzzah" and "The Lat"?
This is proven non sense. In fact these names Lat and Uzzah are denoted with "Al" because they were held before, during, and after the time muhammad, as being deities; and so "Al" was introduced to these names because - again - the arabian people of antiquity held these to be gods in their polytheistic culture. These are the facts. Irrelevant if you want to believe it or not, it is a matter of objective history.

Have you looked in an Arabic dictionary for Al?

 

[Deus Vult!]

Have you looked in an Arabic dictionary for Al?

Yes I have. "Al" can mean "the", the point is that when it is used for a proper name or only denotes "god" or "deity". In Arabic "Ishamel" is rendered "Ishmaal". If "Al" only meant "the" then rendering Ishmaal in Arabic - as this is how it is in Arabic - this would mean "The Isma" which is non sense. Here I will link a simply wikipedia search for the god Lah below. If you want me to link all the other false gods found in the quran below I can, you let me know if it is necessary.

Iah - Wikipedia

 

[Andrewn]

However, is it truly the same God (i.e. a false God) if you reject key doctrines for salvation? And if you add revelations that are against God’s character altogether? Or does it become someone else altogether? The same question even goes for Judaism. Are they worshiping the true God when they deny our Lord Jesus? Or are they worshiping a false concept of God? Are Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses or various cultic churches worshipping the same God? What about non-trinitarian groups? Or groups that don’t believe in the full deity and full humanity of Christ? At what level of error is it no longer the true God?

1Jo 4:2-3 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. And this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming; and now it is already in the world.

The question becomes: What does it mean to "confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh"?

The answer is to trust in the Lord Jesus and in what the NT teaches about who Jesus is and about salvation by His blood. I like the way this is summarized in Col 1:13-20, Phi 2:5-11, Joh 1:1-18, and other passages. What passages do you consider most relevant?

With this in mind, it is easy to isolate certain groups while others may be more debatable. My definition may be open enough to accommodate some non-Trinitarians but certain groups may isolate themselves by condemning Trinitarian Christians or Sunday-worshipping Christians.

May God have mercy on all.

 

[Deus Vult!]

Al means “The” in Arabic, not God. “Illah” means God or deity. The most logical understanding is that they follow the same pattern of contraction that Aramaic and Hebrew follow. Al Illah contracts to Allah. Another form of the word God in Aramaic is Eelah or Elloha. That’s what the earliest Aramaic New Testment used when translating “My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?”

Check out Strongs Concordance

The KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 0426
Original Word: hhla
Word Origin: corresponding to (0433)
Transliterated Word: 'elahh (Aramaic)'
Phonetic Spelling: 'el-aw'
Parts of Speech: Noun Masculine
Definitions:
- god, God
- god, heathen deity
- God (of Israel)




ETA: I’m not saying that ‘El isn’t a root for the word God in Semitic languages. However, Al does not mean God in Arabic. Also, while Allah was used in pre-Islamic Arabic, it still meant “The primary God”...ie The God. Mainstream Muslims hold that Allah was used from historic times, but was corrupted by pagan worship. Either way, the Quran prohibits moon worship, so stating that they worship a moon god is false. While I disagree with Islam (obviously), I still believe it is important to accurately represent the facts.

I am not saying that they do worship the moon god Lah, I am simply stating that at the time of muhammad arabs did, and when doing so they referred to this lunar deity as "Al"(god) "Lah" (moon). It is a fact. Muhammad chose this god - from among many gods of Arabia's polytheistic culture - as the sole object of their worship.
I know that muslims do not consciously worship the moon god Lah. That said, they do un-consciously worship the god Lah everytime they speak this proper name for their diety.
In fact this whole Al-Lah means "the god" nonsense is so wildly incorrect - and unfounded in history - that I dont know what else to show or say to prove it, if history has not done it for you already...

Here goes a link below to the name "Al-Uzzah" which is referenced in the quran as being a daughter of Allah. Guess what? "Al-Uzzah" to the polytheistic Arab of antiquity knew that this was one of the three daughters of Lah, the moon god.

Al-‘Uzzá - Wikipedia

 

[Andrewn]

Here I will link a simply wikipedia search for the god Lah below. If you want me to link all the other false gods found in the quran below I can, you let me know if it is necessary. Iah - Wikipedia

You and the people who agree with you have a major problem with the English alphabet .

You say the wikipedia article is about the Arabian god Lah. Instead, The article is about the Ancient Egyptian god Yah or Iah.

The old idea that Allah was a moon god, is nicely refuted in another Wikipedia article:

Allah as a lunar deity - Wikipedia

I didn't want to comment on this subject anymore but couldn't resist pointing out your (pleural) laughable blunder.

 

[Deus Vult!]

You and the people who agree with you have a major problem with the English alphabet .

You say the wikipedia article is about the Arabian god Lah. Instead, The article is about the Ancient Egyptian god Yah or Iah.

The old idea that Allah was a moon god, is nicely refuted in another Wikipedia article:

Allah as a lunar deity - Wikipedia

I didn't want to comment on this subject anymore but couldn't resist pointing out your laughable blunder.

"Allah" is not a lunar diety. Lah is. What is the malfunction? Here, I will link a youtube video proving that Lah is the same lunar diety worshipped by the arabian polythesists at the time of muhammad. The video was done by a fluent Arabic speaking man - who holds I believe a doctorate in Islamic law. Fast forward 30 minutes into the video.

 

[Deus Vult!]

From a person who was deeply immersed in Islamic culture your ideas are laughable.

 

[Deus Vult!]

You and the people who agree with you have a major problem with the English alphabet .

You say the wikipedia article is about the Arabian god Lah. Instead, The article is about the Ancient Egyptian god Yah or Iah.

The old idea that Allah was a moon god, is nicely refuted in another Wikipedia article:

Allah as a lunar deity - Wikipedia

I didn't want to comment on this subject anymore but couldn't resist pointing out your (pleural) laughable blunder.

This one is more focused on the topic.

 

[Gwendolynz]

Yes I have. "Al" can mean "the", the point is that when it is used for a proper name or only denotes "god" or "deity". In Arabic "Ishamel" is rendered "Ishmaal". If "Al" only meant "the" then rendering Ishmaal in Arabic - as this is how it is in Arabic - this would mean "The Isma" which is non sense. Here I will link a simply wikipedia search for the god Lah below. If you want me to link all the other false gods found in the quran below I can, you let me know if it is necessary.

Iah - Wikipedia

You speak to others as though your own God is false.

 

[Deus Vult!]

You speak to others as though your own God is false.

My Lord and my God is Jesus Christ. There you go.

 

[All4Christ]

I am not saying that they do worship the moon god Lah, I am simply stating that at the time of muhammad arabs did, and when doing so they referred to this lunar deity as "Al"(god) "Lah" (moon). It is a fact. Muhammad chose this god - from among many gods of Arabia's polytheistic culture - as the sole object of their worship.
I know that muslims do not consciously worship the moon god Lah. That said, they do un-consciously worship the god Lah everytime they speak this proper name for their diety.
In fact this whole Al-Lah means "the god" nonsense is so wildly incorrect - and unfounded in history - that I dont know what else to show or say to prove it, if history has not done it for you already...

Here goes a link below to the name "Al-Uzzah" which is referenced in the quran as being a daughter of Allah. Guess what? "Al-Uzzah" to the polytheistic Arab of antiquity knew that this was one of the three daughters of Lah, the moon god.

Al-‘Uzzá - Wikipedia

Al is an indicator of the definitive. A good equivalent in the English language is “the” - the definitive article in our language. In Arabic, however, it also prefixes many names. In the case of the pre-Islamic deities, Al is the definitive article for the deity’s name.

Arabic definite article - Wikipedia

 

[Deus Vult!]

Al is an indicator of the definitive. A good equivalent in the English language is “the” - the definitive article in our language. In Arabic, however, it also prefixes many names. In the case of Al-Lah (the pre-Islamic deity), Al is the definitive article for the deity Lah.

Arabic definite article - Wikipedia

I am amazed that you cared enough to look it up to see if my claim was true or not... I am so amazed, just to be sure then, you are agreeing with my former statements then?

 

[Eloy Craft]

It is written that those who seek the living God WILL find Him.

Nevertheless those who don't are guilty.

 

[Gwendolynz]

Have you looked in an Arabic dictionary for Al?

Um, no. Just spoke to other women and went to classes. Make no mistake here, the biggest sadness I have about all this is the willingness to speak bad things about others, to what outcome?

 

[Deus Vult!]

Um, no. Just spoke to other women and went to classes. Make no mistake here, the biggest sadness I have about all this is the willingness to speak bad things about others, to what outcome?

First if all "All4Christ" had been responding to my comments per the OP. What willingness do we have to speak bad things about others? To educate the ignorant, to out of love preach the true God of Israel: Jesus Christ. That all who would believe on His name would be saved. Because it is to this Name that all will bow. Those in Heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth. Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD to the Glory of God the Father. Philippians( 2:5-11). This is why Gwen. Because we are following the Great Commision of our Lord who told his disciples to preach the Gospel: the good news of life eternal that awaits all who have remained steadfast in faith and commanment to Him. If it was unnecessary to believe in Jesus for salvation then he would not have commanded us to preach His Name, His Gospel, and His salvation. Jesus said: "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH ME".