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Again you have mis comprehended what Eph 1:4 says.
"even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him." Notice He chooses us IN HIM. In WHO? In Christ. We have to be in Christ before the Father chooses us for something. But what is that something He chooses us for? Not salvation.He chooses us to be holy and blameless. What does that mean?
Before the foundation of the world the Father made a pact with the Son that those who follow the Son and become "IN HIM" will be seen as holy and blameless. In other words Jesus the Son is a filter that God the Father looks through to us. We are not holy and blameless but sinners. That is what the Father has predestined.
Verse 5 - The Father also agreed to adopt us as Sons.
So we as individual human beings choose to follow Christ and we be seen as Holy and blameless and we will adopted sons. Nothing about salvation here.
This is where Paul talks about salvation.
Eph 2:1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
Eph 2:2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—
Eph 2:3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
Eph 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,
Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—
Eph 2:6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
Eph 2:7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Good day, Steven
Re-post my question in case you missed it...
Good Day, Steven
Very focused here to you statement " Verse 5 - The Father also agreed to adopt us as Sons."
What version are you using and where in the text is the proposition to the Father to agree to, and who makes such proposition to the Father for His agreement??
I would like to see the text from scripture and the grammar of the proposition made to the father.
Also can you explain your view of adoption?
In Him,
Bill
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