When Jesus took our sins on the cross, did he become a sinner?

[PrettyboyAndy]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

Would you quote from Scripture a passage, or passages, that you are asking about or referring to?

It is pretty much self-explanatory, and also may be contextual to help understand it as written.

 

[Not David]

The wrath of God was not taken upon Jesus Christ.

 

[redleghunter]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

He carried the sin and was not the transgressor.

1 Peter 2: NASB

1. 21For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH; 23and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed. 25For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.

 

[redleghunter]

The wrath of God was not taken upon Jesus Christ.

Romans 5: NASB

6For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

 

[eleos1954]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

Here's a link to about 100 or so verses about Jesus not having any sin.

What Does the Bible Say About Jesus Did Not Have A Sin Nature?

 

[Jonaitis]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

It wasn't that he became sinful, or that he became a sinner, but that he was counted as sin and was punished as if he were guilty under the law. He remained innocent, spotless, and pure, it was that, as an atonement and sacrifice, he bore the weight of divine wrath.

He bore the wrath that he did not deserve, so that all who are in him are saved.

 

[Jonaitis]

The wrath of God was not taken upon Jesus Christ.

"Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors" (Isaiah 53:10-12).

 

[friend of]

He became sin that knew no sin so that in him we might become the righteousness of God!

 

[Jonaitis]

He became sin that knew no sin so that in him we might become the righteousness of God!

We, being united to him, share in his suffering and righteousness!

Marvelous grace of our loving Lord,
grace that exceeds our sin and our guilt,
yonder on Calvary's mount outpoured,
there where the blood of the Lamb was spilt!

Grace, grace, God's grace,
grace that will pardon and cleanse within;
grace, grace, God's grace,
grace that is greater than all our sin.

Dark is the stain that we cannot hide,
what can avail to wash it away!
Look! there is flowing a crimson tide;
whiter than snow you may be today.

Grace, grace, God's grace,
grace that will pardon and cleanse within;
grace, grace, God's grace,
grace that is greater than all our sin.

Marvelous, infinite, matchless grace,
freely bestowed on all who believe:
you that are longing to see his face,
will you this moment his grace receive?

 

[friend of]

We, being united to him, share in his suffering and righteousness!

Amen brother!

 

[timothyu]

You kill someone. Someone else who is totally innocent of that particular crime of self interest (there are many) volunteers to accept punishment. He sets an example. He doesn't take anything, he gives. I'll bet he would hope you pay it forward. That is how the Kingdom works in comparison to the world of man.

 

[Not David]

Romans 5: NASB

6For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Still doesn't say God's wrath was over Him.

 

[Jonaitis]

You kill someone. Someone else who is totally innocent of the crime of self interest takes the rap for you. He doesn't take anything, he gives.

How about a friend who jumps in front of the bullet for you? "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13).

 

[Aussie Pete]

Jesus is perfect and Holy, without sin, but the wrath of God was taken out on Jesus when He died and paid for our sins, so when our sins went to Jesus, was Jesus a sinner at that time? How can one explain this

No. Lord Jesus took the sin of all mankind into His body. His body was left in the grave along with all that sin. (1 Peter 2:24). If Lord Jesus became a sinner then He would not have risen from the dead, He would not have been glorified and He would not be King of Kings and Lord of lords. No one could have been saved in that case.

 

[Jonaitis]

Still doesn't say God's wrath was over Him.

In verse 10, it says that as enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son.

David, this sounds like a satisfaction.

 

[Not David]

How about a friend who jumps in front of the bullet for you? "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13).

The bullet is not God. I find it problematic that you seems to think God is both the bullet and the man saving you from it.

 

[Not David]

In verse 10, it says that as enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son.

David, this sounds like a satisfaction.

Not a problem with substitution atonement nor with an Orthodox satisfaction theory

 

[Jonaitis]

The bullet is not God. I find it problematic that you seems to think God is both the bullet and the man saving you from it.

How is it problematic? It is rather paradoxical.

"God saved you for himself; God saved you by himself; God saved you from himself." - Paul Washer

It is the greatest redemption story.

 

[Jonaitis]

Not a problem with substitution atonement nor with an Orthodox satisfaction theory

It is if the satisfaction reconciles the hostility of God toward sinners, whom are called "enemies," by imputing it to Christ on the cross. The death of the Son is the appeasement for that hostility, who bore that hostility in himself, bringing peace.