Whistle blower Identified?

[Always in His Presence]

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Joe Biden: Invited Ciaramella to state luncheon with Italian premier. Also invited: Brennan, Comey, Clapper. AP Photo/Matt Rourke Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

 

[Belk]

Oh look. Trying to smear the whistle blower. Shocked am I.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Way to break the law. Much proudness. Such leaking.

 

[SimplyMe]

Oh look. Trying to smear the whistle blower. Shocked am I.

Anything to distract from the fact that most everything in the report appears to be confirmed.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Anything to distract from the fact that most everything in the report appears to be confirmed.

What has not been confirmed yet?

 

[Erik Nelson]

 

[Sparagmos]

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Joe Biden: Invited Ciaramella to state luncheon with Italian premier. Also invited: Brennan, Comey, Clapper. AP Photo/Matt Rourke Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

@hislegacy is it legal for you to post this? This is disgusting. If this person is harmed you will share the blame.

 

[SimplyMe]

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Do you not see the difference between the US government taking a position that is in "the national interest" (whether you agree with it or not) compared to asking the leader of a foreign country to help you personally -- in a way to benefit your political campaign?

It is illegal for a candidate to ask for political help from a foreign country (this is considered foreign interference in a US election). That is even before considering the quid pro quo -- which is another crime on top of asking a foreign government for help with the election.

Now, you might claim that is not what Trump did but there are two issues with that; 1) while Trump mentioned Barr, he never consulted with Barr, at all, about opening up an investigation into Burisma, the Bidens, or any Ukraine related activity -- much less tell him to call Ukraine. Instead, he mentioned and sent his personal lawyer, doing a private investigation as a private citizen (in no way related to the US government or any US investigation).

2) Around the time the Whistleblower report was released, Trump's Campaign spent millions of dollars running attack ads against Joe Biden, specifically accusing him of wrong doing in Ukraine -- the exact topic Trump asked to be investigated.

 

[Always in His Presence]

@hislegacy is it legal for you to post this? This is disgusting. If this person is harmed you will share the blame.

pblllllttt...... such drama

 

[TLK Valentine]

Oh look. Trying to smear the whistle blower. Shocked am I.

Not even... trying to smear someone who might be the whistleblower. Desperate are they.

 

[TLK Valentine]

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How would that help their personal fortunes?

 

[Gigimo]

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Joe Biden: Invited Ciaramella to state luncheon with Italian premier. Also invited: Brennan, Comey, Clapper. AP Photo/Matt Rourke Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

I found this one on another website: Thread by @GregRubini: "1. Eric Ciaramella, the SECRET* Adam Schiff 'whistleblower', was a CIA Analyst, expert on Ukraine and Russia. [THREAD] Eric Ciaramella was d […]"

Thought you might like this one too it came in my e-mail: Schiff Impeachment Witness: Trump Call to Ukraine Originated from Nat'l Security Staffers

 

[DaisyDay]

I found this one on another website: Thread by @GregRubini: "1. Eric Ciaramella, the SECRET* Adam Schiff 'whistleblower', was a CIA Analyst, expert on Ukraine and Russia. [THREAD] Eric Ciaramella was d […]"

Mr. Rubini even posted a picture of the purported whistleblower to make threatening him even easier.

Thought you might like this one too it came in my e-mail: Schiff Impeachment Witness: Trump Call to Ukraine Originated from Nat'l Security Staffers

Propagandistic fan fiction, that is. It is under the "commentary" title, but this is really out there.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Do you not see the difference between the US government taking a position that is in "the national interest" (whether you agree with it or not) compared to asking the leader of a foreign country to help you personally -- in a way to benefit your political campaign?

It is illegal for a candidate to ask for political help from a foreign country (this is considered foreign interference in a US election). That is even before considering the quid pro quo -- which is another crime on top of asking a foreign government for help with the election.

Now, you might claim that is not what Trump did but there are two issues with that; 1) while Trump mentioned Barr, he never consulted with Barr, at all, about opening up an investigation into Burisma, the Bidens, or any Ukraine related activity -- much less tell him to call Ukraine. Instead, he mentioned and sent his personal lawyer, doing a private investigation as a private citizen (in no way related to the US government or any US investigation).

2) Around the time the Whistleblower report was released, Trump's Campaign spent millions of dollars running attack ads against Joe Biden, specifically accusing him of wrong doing in Ukraine -- the exact topic Trump asked to be investigated.

Are you listening to yourself?

• There is some evidence that 2016 election interference came from (through?) Ukraine
• a 2020 election candidate for POTUS has (had) conflict-of-interest family ties to a known-corrupt Ukraine uber-wealthy oil conglomerate

The same candidate has (had) more family ties to an uber-wealthy Chinese financial company.

We seriously can't put 2+2 together there and come up with a (possible) "in" from foreign powers, all the way in to, the POTUS?

If Mr. Biden is clean & has nothing to hide, an investigation would quickly exonerate him, yes?

Meanwhile you do acknowledge (?) that there's a lot, far more than there ought to be, in the widely read book:

 

[Erik Nelson]

How would that help their personal fortunes?

Personal fortunes?

You mean Biden family ties to uber-wealthy Burisma & BHR ?

Or the Clintons' "unreported foreign gifts, Bill’s dinner with Kazakhstan’s autocratic president on behalf of a donor seeking lucrative mining rights" documented in Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich ?

 

[SimplyMe]

Are you listening to yourself?

• There is some evidence that 2016 election interference came from (through?) Ukraine
• a 2020 election candidate for POTUS has (had) conflict-of-interest family ties to a known-corrupt Ukraine uber-wealthy oil conglomerate

The same candidate has (had) more family ties to an uber-wealthy Chinese financial company.

We seriously can't put 2+2 together there and come up with a (possible) "in" from foreign powers, all the way in to, the POTUS?

If Mr. Biden is clean & has nothing to hide, an investigation would quickly exonerate him, yes?

Meanwhile you do acknowledge (?) that there's a lot, far more than there ought to be, in the widely read book:

None of which has anything to do with what I stated.

There is an investigation by the US government into the 2016 election -- and that is being lead by Independent Prosecutor Durham. If he needs help from Ukraine to investigate things that happened there, then he can use the treaty the US has with the Ukraine -- he has no need for the President to help him with it. Of course, in the phone call, Trump never asked for help for Durham and his investigation.

The fact is that all you are seeing, and reposting here, from questionable right wing sources, is nothing more than distraction -- it does not change what Trump did.

I have no issue with a legitimate government investigation into the Bidens. Of course, the evidence I've seen suggest those investigations have already been done; but if they haven't I have no issue with it being investigated. If they are guilty, then they should be prosecuted.

What the president asked for, though, was not any sort of legitimate government inquiry. Instead, he wanted help for his private investigation into the Bidens, as well as a public declaration from Ukraine that they were investigating the Bidens. It does not matter if the Biden's are guilty -- if they are they should be prosecuted -- as it does not change that the President abused his office.

 

[Erik Nelson]

 

[iluvatar5150]

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What does it matter? The whistleblower in these situations doesn't have any power to do anything beyond filing the initial complaint. The IG and others are responsible for investigating it and acting on it. Hillary could've been the one filing the complaint and it wouldn't have made any difference. This whole thing about the whistleblower's alleged biases is nothing more than a red herring disingenuously used to distract people who don't understand the process.

 

[Speedwell]

Consider the following scenario: My business premises catch fire. Fireman come and extinguish the blaze and find evidence of incendiary material. Now I am on trial for arson, and my defense is that the first person who saw the smoke and called 911 was my business competitor from across the street who hates me. Do you think that would work?

 

[trunks2k]

Consider the following scenario: My business premises catch fire. Fireman come and extinguish the blaze and find evidence of incendiary material. Now I am on trial for arson, and my defense is that the first person who saw the smoke and called 911 was my business competitor from across the street who hates me. Do you think that would work?

It's like they've convinced themselves that the whistleblower is the one and only source of information and/or that if they can somehow show bias on his part, that makes everything that they've learned in the inquiry disappear.

The whistleblower is pretty irrelevant at this point.