What day is the sabath what day does the bible say?

[Semper-Fi]

Everyone will aware in Israel when the new moon is observed and that observation began the lunar month.

Everyone, all flesh will soon observe His calendar, and His Sabbaths will be, one to another will be observed world wide.

The whole earth will be at rest.

This is in the [7th] thousand year mark.
This is what the 7th day points forward to.
one of those "things to come" mentioned.

 

[klutedavid]

Notice it Says you can enter on the Sabbath day, [also can] on the new moon. It does not say the new moon is the 7th day Sabbath.

What part of "The weekly cycle, which runs concurrently with but independently of the monthly and annual cycles." do you not understand?
Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia

Of course, I know that the new moon day is not the seventh day because the new moon day begins the lunar month.

The following information is from your reference, Wikipedia.Hebrew Calendar.

The 12 lunar months of the Hebrew calendar are the normal months from new moon to new moon: the year normally contains twelve months averaging 29.52 days each.

The Hebrew Lunisolar calendar started the month with the first appearance of the thin crescent of the new moon.

The start of a lunar month is the first day of the week in a lunisolar calendar. Hence, the first day on a lunisolar calendar is not the same as the first day of a month on a solar calendar.

The concept of a continuous weekly cycle is foreign to a lunisolar calendar. You must understand how a lunar month begins, because the start of any lunar month commences the start of the week.

 

[Semper-Fi]

The start of a lunar month is the first day of the week in a lunisolar calendar.

You have not show this in the bible, or elsewhere.

 

[klutedavid]

The lunar day count[1-30], is not
the same as the weekly day count[1-7].

You did not specify accurately which calendar your talking about here.

A Gregorian calendar follows a continuous weekly cycle and we are well aware how the Papal calendar works.

The lunisolar Hebrew calendar is different in that it does not have a continuous weekly cycle.
The day count is based on the new moon in the Jewish lunisolar calendar.

1 Samuel 20:27
It came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty.

The second day of the new moon is not the second day of any month on a Gregorian calendar.

They are two different calendars and they are not compatible.

Now the onus is on you to demonstrate from the scripture that the Hebrews followed the Gregorian solar calendar.

 

[klutedavid]

You have not show this in the bible, or elsewhere.

I did show you how the Hebrews counted the days.

1 Samuel 20:27
It came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty.

Now you show me in the scripture where the Hebrews counted the days from a Gregorian calendar.

 

[Semper-Fi]

I did show you how the Hebrews counted the days.

1 Samuel 20:27
It came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty.

Now you show me in the scripture where the Hebrews counted the days from a Gregorian calendar.

You confuse the day of month,
with the day of the week.

Even your link you do not believe.
Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia

Weeks


The Hebrew week (שבוע, Shavua) is a cycle of seven days, mirroring the seven-day period of the Book of Genesis in which the world is created. Each day of the week runs from sunset to the following sunset and is figured locally.

The weekly cycle, which runs concurrently with but independently of the monthly and annual cycles."

This says the week day is not locked to the monthly days. Clear back to gen. in the garden.

This is when the weekly 7th day started according to your bible.

Show me where it says how
to configure the 7th day Sabbath.

You showed me how to count monthly days, not week days that are different.

 

[Semper-Fi]

I did show you how the Hebrews counted the days.

Now you show me in the scripture where the Hebrews counted the days from a Gregorian calendar.

you showed how to count a month.Show me why Jesus would us a pagon origin calendar, or myself.

 

[Semper-Fi]

There is no direct translation of a Jewish seventh day in the scripture to a Gregorian day of the week. Simply because the Gregorian seventh day of the solar month will not be a Saturday very often.

by your recon then, there would only
be one 7th day per month, or the first day
is only once a month.
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There is a converter that you can use to
convert Gods annual Sabbath days ,
to see date on the Gregorian calendar.

How do you figure then when the [first]
day of the week is mentioned in bible?
Is sunday the first day correct today?

Has the 7 day weekly cycle changed
since you where born?

Again you confuse the monthly count,
with the weekly count. The weekly cycle
has, and does not change, No matter
how many days are in a month.
-
example:

The break between the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? There was a well known break of 10 days.

In 1582, that Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th. The weekly cycle was not interrupted. Now take a look at 1752, Wednesday the 2nd was followed by Thursday the 14th.

Again, the calendar had to be adjusted to correct it to the seasons but the weekly cycle remained unchanged.
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If you check your calendar on the wall you will notice, more than likely, that the seventh day is rarely ever a Saturday.

The day saturday on a Gregorian calendar
today aligns with Gods 7th day Sabbath.

Just look, Saturday is last on the far right,
sunday is first, or on the far left side.

Does not matter what day of the month it is.
The same 7 day weekly cycle as when Christ
was here on earth.

Do you keep the [first day] of the week
mentioned in the bible?

 

[klutedavid]

The lunar day count[1-30], is not
the same as the weekly day count[1-7].

The lunar month has thirty days.

The Papal calendar has both thirty and thirty one day months.

Three and half years using lunar months of thirty days gives us 1260, now that looks like a prophetic number in the scripture.

Three and half years using Papal calendar months of 31 and 30 days, gives us 1278 days, that looks nothing like a prophetic number in the scripture.

 

[GingerBeer]

The day referred to as the seventh day is the seventh day on the Jewish calendar.

In Scottish Gaelic it's called "Sabbath day" as well as "Lord's day".
Didòmhnaich 'Lord's day'
Là na Sàbaid 'Sabbath day'

 

[klutedavid]

by your recon then, there would only
be one 7th day per month, or the first day
is only once a month.
-

There is a converter that you can use to
convert Gods annual Sabbath days ,
to see date on the Gregorian calendar.

How do you figure then when the [first]
day of the week is mentioned in bible?
Is sunday the first day correct today?

Has the 7 day weekly cycle changed
since you where born?

Again you confuse the monthly count,
with the weekly count. The weekly cycle
has, and does not change, No matter
how many days are in a month.
-
example:

The break between the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? There was a well known break of 10 days.

In 1582, that Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th. The weekly cycle was not interrupted. Now take a look at 1752, Wednesday the 2nd was followed by Thursday the 14th.

Again, the calendar had to be adjusted to correct it to the seasons but the weekly cycle remained unchanged.
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The day saturday on a Gregorian calendar
today aligns with Gods 7th day Sabbath.

Just look, Saturday is last on the far right,
sunday is first, or on the far left side.

Does not matter what day of the month it is.
The same 7 day weekly cycle as when Christ
was here on earth.

Do you keep the [first day] of the week
mentioned in the bible?

Something went wrong in your post.

The Jewish lunar month only had one seventh day, then the fourteenth day, e.t.c.

 

[klutedavid]

you showed how to count a month.Show me why Jesus would us a pagon origin calendar, or myself.

Jesus followed the lunisolar calendar used by the nation of Israel in the first century. The scripture as a whole never refers to the Papal Gregorian calendar or the Egyptian solar calendar.

The Jews used a lunisolar calendar with lunar months based purely on the lunar cycle. The lights in the sky dominated the Jewish calendar.
The Jews celebrated on the day of the first new moon every month.

The Papal calendar is a mathematical calendar and the months are derived from mathematical calculation. The Papal calendar has nothing to do with lunar monthly cycles, the papacy never celebrated a new moon day.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Something went wrong in your post.

The Jewish lunar month only had one seventh day, then the fourteenth day, e.t.c.

You have still not shown where the 7th day of the month, is the same as the 7th day Sabbath of the week.


Do you keep the first day of the week
mentioned in the new test. ?

 

[ewq1938]

You have still not shown where the 7th day of the month, is the same as the 7th day Sabbath of the week.

How exactly is the 7th day of a month not the 7th day Sabbath?

 

[klutedavid]

You have still not shown where the 7th day of the month, is the same as the 7th day Sabbath of the week.


Do you keep the first day of the week
mentioned in the new test. ?

Your post seems confused on this point.

The Hebrew calendar month was based on the lunar cycle.

The day count is taken from the observation of the new moon.

Exodus 12:16-20
On the first day (new moon day) you shall have a holy assembly, and another holy assembly on the seventh day (Sabbath); no work at all shall be done on them, except what must be eaten by every person, that alone may be prepared by you. In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at evening, you shall eat unleavened bread, until the twenty-first day of the month at evening.

The first day is a rest day and a holy day, but is not a Sabbath day!

The first day is the day of the new moon.

1 Samuel 20:27
It came about the next day, the second day of the new moon, that David’s place was empty.

The day count in any month was counted from the new moon day.

 

[Semper-Fi]

How exactly is the 7th day of a month not the 7th day Sabbath?

Then there would be a break in the 7 day weekly cycle. I have never observed a break in the weekly cycle.

Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia says

Weeks
The Hebrew week (שבוע, Shavua) is a cycle of seven days, mirroring the seven-day period of the Book of Genesis in which the world is created. Each day of the week runs from sunset to the following sunset and is figured locally.

The weekly cycle, which runs concurrently with but independently of the monthly and annual cycles."

The week day is not locked with the month day.
Every month could start on a different day of the week. Every 7th day of month not the same as 7th day week.

 

[ewq1938]

The day count in any month was counted from the new moon day.

I think we needs to be done is showing a correct calendar and identifying the real Sabbath in this month and maybe the next. People don't seem to understand that Saturdays aren't actually the true Sabbath of each month.

 

[klutedavid]

Then there would be a break in the 7 day weekly cycle. I have never observed a break in the weekly cycle.

Hebrew calendar - Wikipedia says

The weekly cycle, which runs concurrently with but independently of the monthly and annual cycles."

I will expand this passage for you.

The weekly cycle runs concurrently with the monthly cycle. The weekly cycle is independent of the annual cycle.

Notice the difference between the solar calendar and the lunisolar calendar. The solar calendar has a yearly cycle of continuous weeks, yet the lunisolar calendar has lunar months of weeks.

The beginning of each Jewish lunar month is based on the appearance of the new moon.

The week day is not locked with the month day.
Every month could start on a different day of the week. Every 7th day of month not the same as 7th day week.

This where your confused.

When you say 'the seventh day', a Hebrew is hearing the seventh day of the lunar month. But your saying the seventh day of the week or the seventh day on the Papal calendar month. I'm not sure what you are saying?

Your thinking of day counts on two completely different calendars.

 

[klutedavid]

I think we needs to be done is showing a correct calendar and identifying the real Sabbath in this month and maybe the next. People don't seem to understand that Saturdays aren't actually the true Sabbath of each month.

That is certainly the problem that I have observed also. They follow the day count on a Papal solar calendar and read the day count on the lunisolar calendar in the scripture.

Showing the Sabbath is easy, just look for the new moon on a modern calendar and you have the start of the Jewish month. Then all you do is count to seven and that day is the Jewish Sabbath day.

Older calendars did have the new moon shown and what day it was on.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Older calendars did have the new moon shown and what day it was on.

Oct. 28 monday, Nov. 26 tuesday,
Dec. 26 thursday.