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National Farmers Union Head Scorches Trump: He’s Offended ‘Pretty Much Every Ally’ On Earth

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The president of the National Farmers Union Roger Johnson said in a radio interview Thursday that it will take “decades” to reverse damage caused by Trump. China, he added, is now a “lost market” for American farmers because of Trump’s trade war. He also noted that Donald has “offended the leaders of pretty much every ally we have on Earth,” and America’s reputation in markets around the world has taken a long-lasting hit. He said "it’s going to take much different behavior from future presidents in order to repair this damage,” he said.

Johnson's organization represents some 200,000 family farms, ranches and fishing enterprises in 33 states. He said that Donald would have been wiser to approach the world’s second-largest economy with a team of allies.

“I would ... argue that it would be far more effective if we did it with the rest of world, instead of first ticking off the rest of the world and then trying to do it all by ourself,” he said.

As for how Trump is dealing with China, Johnson added: “I don’t think you can expect to make the fundamental changes that are being asked of China while every other day you’re offending them, you’re forcing them to lose face. No country’s going to make changes when they’re embarrassed along the way. That’s just not how you do things.”

He called many of Trump’s policy decisions “very harmful to agriculture; all the trade disruption has been enormously damaging.”

Johnson said the U.S. will suffer “reputational damage ... for literally decades.” He also noted that “trade actions that this president have taken have done damage to lots of other parts of the economy” as well.

Johnson slammed the decision by the Environmental Protection Agency — reportedly ordered by Trump — to grant waivers to 31 petroleum refineries effectively exempting them from having to use more corn-based ethanol in their products. It was yet another blow to struggling corn farmers in deference to what Johnson called the “wealthiest oil companies on the face of the planet.”

KFGO interviewer Joel Heitkamp noted: “You can see how mad ag producers are when they see that big oil got the exemptions ... it’s like the light finally got turned on and some of these guys woke up.”

Farmers “are in a lot of financial stress right now; net farm income is half of what it was six years ago,” said Johnson.


National Farmers Union Pres. Roger Johnson talks ongoing trade war: "China is a lost market for agriculture."

You can listen to the entire interview at the top of the page.
 

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He did put all the coal miners back to work, though.

I literally have no idea any more what posts on here are meant to be taken literally or not......

Is this one meant to be literal or facetious?
 
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I literally have no idea any more what posts on here are meant to be taken literally or not......

Is this one meant to be literal or facetious?

Ooop's, I forgot my Poe tags. I'll go back and put them in.

Poe's Law
 
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Ooop's, I forgot my Poe tags. I'll go back and put them in.

:D

I have to ask now bc there are posts that completely seem to be jokes but then aren't & vice versa!!!!
 
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They're still going to vote for him.

Maybe not. Owning libs is fun but you can’t make a nutritionally fulfilling casserole for your kids out of Democratic tears.

Perot said it’s the economy stupid and Donald and the Right have been pointing to Wall Street. The problem beneath the surface for them is there are pockets of people who this economy isn’t good for and they will vote accordingly. It isn’t the macro economy people care about, it is how they personally are doing financially. There are some real problems starting to emerge for Trump’s 2020 hopes.
 
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Johnson slammed the decision by the Environmental Protection Agency — reportedly ordered by Trump — to grant waivers to 31 petroleum refineries effectively exempting them from having to use more corn-based ethanol in their products. It was yet another blow to struggling corn farmers in deference to what Johnson called the “wealthiest oil companies on the face of the planet.”

On a typical day, about 80 tractor trailers full of corn line up to dump their loads at Siouxland Energy Cooperative, the ethanol plant just outside of town. The air throbs with the noise and vibration of this industrial moonshine operation, which distills nature’s harvest into a cleaner-burning fuel.

But today, the warm Iowa sun shines on an almost empty parking lot, and the machinery sits idle.

After two decades, Siouxland this month halted operations following the Environmental Protection Agency’s decision to exempt 31 small oil refiners from a federal law requiring them to blend ethanol in their gasoline. The waivers, which the Trump administration has approved almost four times as often as its predecessor, have undercut demand for ethanol and the corn used to make it, farmers said.

“The waivers are what pushed us over the edge,” said Steve Westra, 46, the plant manager. “It absolutely killed the potential for anybody to make any money at this.”

“I supported Trump in the last election. Today, if the election were held, I don’t think I could vote for him,” said Kelly Nieuwenhuis, 60, a corn and soybean farmer in Primghar, about 40 miles east. “It’s definitely growing, the displeasure with the Trump administration.”

By 2005, when the Bush administration began mandating that refineries blend specific quantities of ethanol each year, Nieuwenhuis’ fortunes turned. He bought a four-bedroom home, where he and his wife raised their four children, and now owns 30 plots within a 25-mile radius. In recent years, he has added wind turbines to his fields.

Today, almost all of the corn he and his brothers produce on 2,100 acres is sold to ethanol plants. The renewable fuel standards are “the best thing that happened in my 37 years of farming,” Nieuwenhuis said. “That’s why I have this building. That’s why I have this tractor.”

Farmers are growing exhausted by the president’s alternating suggestions of an imminent deal or an indefinite stalemate. “People thought it was going to be about a two-round fight, and we’d show them who was boss,” said Eric Walhof, president of Northwest Bank. “Now, we have fatigue. Are we in this for another two years? Five years?”
 
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After two decades, Siouxland this month halted operations following the Environmental Protection Agency’s decision to exempt 31 small oil refiners from a federal law requiring them to blend ethanol in their gasoline. The waivers, which the Trump administration has approved almost four times as often as its predecessor, have undercut demand for ethanol and the corn used to make it, farmers said.

Having killed corn prices by eliminating the need for ethanol blends, Trump has course corrected by promising to double the amount of ethanol blended next year.

The Trump administration may require large oil refineries to increase ethanol in their fuels next year to make up for the U.S. waiving ethanol blending requirements at 31 small refineries this summer.

Farmers around the county welcomed the news Friday because they had feared those refinery waivers would drive down the price for corn as demand ebbed.


Yay, Trump promises to fix the problem Trump caused and now everyone is happy.

But, to the oil industry, Friday's announcement is troubling.

Uh-oh, not everyone is happy.

It's pathetic for someone who was supposed to have so much business sense get put into the Oval Office where he mashes buttons seemingly at random.
 
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But, to the oil industry, Friday's announcement is troubling.

Im not in the oil industry and I find corn based ethanol beyond troubling. It's a net loss in terms of energy, it takes more oil to make and bring to market then it replaces, and it is not a additive to gasoline it's a contaminate that degrades the engines it flows into. Were Iowa not a swing or early caucus state corn based ethanol would not exist in this county as it's nothing but a give away to a politically important demographic.

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Wisconsin Farmers Union President Darin Von Ruden, however, told Newsweek that farmers don't want to be rescued by the government. They want to earn their own living, free of the Trump administration's trade wars.

"It is absolutely ludicrous," Von Ruden said. "The majority of farmers want to get our income coming in from the marketplace, from the consumers. We don't want government handouts."

"He is bragging about socialism. That's what 28 billion dollars really is—it is taxpayers dollars that are coming back to the farmer," Van Ruden said.

"For him to say that he's helping farmers is really B.S. too," Van Ruden said, "because the amount of money we get back is between 20 and 23 percent of what we are losing."
 
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US Department of Agriculture launches pro-Trump propaganda podcast
Farm policy was discussed only briefly on the inaugural podcast, and when it was, guest Sarah Huckabee Sanders falsely said Trump’s trade war with China is causing only a “minor economic hit”

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently launched a new podcast, and the first episode was largely devoted to Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue heaping praise on President Donald Trump with the help of former White House press secretary and current Fox News contributor Sarah Huckabee Sanders. During the 20-plus-minute podcast, Perdue and Sanders spent much of their time celebrating Trump for loving America, fighting “for what he believes is right,” having “genuine, sincere affection for our farmers” and “an amazing instinctive ability to make decisions,” and being “incredibly smart,” “a tough New Yorker,” and “one of the most fun, engaging, charming, charismatic people.”

Though the USDA website describes the podcast’s focus as “the issues facing America’s farmers,” there was almost no discussion of farm policy. In one instance where farm policy was actually discussed, Sanders called Trump’s trade war with China that is devastating American farmers a “minor economic hit.”
 
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The Trump administration may require large oil refineries to increase ethanol in their fuels next year to make up for the U.S. waiving ethanol blending requirements at 31 small refineries this summer.

Farmers around the county welcomed the news Friday because they had feared those refinery waivers would drive down the price for corn as demand ebbed.


But, to the oil industry, Friday's announcement is troubling.


Farmers upset over EPA's new biofuel plan

The proposed rule, the groups say, reneges on a promise the Trump administration made two weeks ago to require large oil refineries to increase their ethanol use enough to compensate for the exemptions granted to small refineries.

"What they're basically saying is forget the deal we told you about," said Monte Shaw, the executive director of the Iowa Renewable Fuels Association. "... we're raising holy hell. We're trying to get the president's attention. We had a deal."

It's pathetic for someone who was supposed to have so much business sense get put into the Oval Office where he mashes buttons seemingly at random.

QFT
 
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Maybe not. Owning libs is fun but you can’t make a nutritionally fulfilling casserole for your kids out of Democratic tears.

Perot said it’s the economy stupid and Donald and the Right have been pointing to Wall Street. The problem beneath the surface for them is there are pockets of people who this economy isn’t good for and they will vote accordingly. It isn’t the macro economy people care about, it is how they personally are doing financially. There are some real problems starting to emerge for Trump’s 2020 hopes.
My theory is that a lot of people who voted for Trump in 2016 will end up staying home on Election Day 2020. In many cases they’ll “forget” or be “too busy” to vote. It’s a way people have dealt in the past with the choice of voting for a party you hate (Dems) or a person you are embarrassed to support or can’t get behind (Trump.). Or they’ll vote third party.
 
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My theory is that a lot of people who voted for Trump in 2016 will end up staying home on Election Day 2020. In many cases they’ll “forget” or be “too busy” to vote. It’s a way people have dealt in the past with the choice of voting for a party you hate (Dems) or a person you are embarrassed to support or can’t get behind (Trump.). Or they’ll vote third party.

I've got family in Alabama who never a day in their lives would have thought they'd vote for a Democrat, it's just the way things are done to vote Republican. Then Roy Moore came along, they had to change their routines. Now I do know that a lot of the folks who'd voted for Trump did also vote for Roy Moore, but nevertheless he lost. I think if Alabama can elect a Democrat just about any state can.

I also have a lot of family in rural Georgia that is farming country. They've been hurt bad on 2 fronts with Donald. The trade war with China that has caused a whole lot of turmoil and drama. For decades farmers had also been relying on workers from Central America. Most of those folks came in work visas, not across the border, then they stayed put. A lot of the farmers do treat those folks right, not exploiting them, but the fact of it is that much of it is still backbreaking work US citizens tend to turn their noses up at. For them they need those workers as much as the workers needed those jobs. It's just added to the stress of it all.
 
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