Trump - 5th time in office that he hasn't heard of a Category 5 Hurricane

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Hi albion,

Thanks for your response. I must say that I'm laughing to myself as I write this. You wrote:
Your scenario, however, assumes that it is normal for every last syllable that the president utters to be second-guessed and re-interpreted, even off-the-cuff comments that are not particularly critical to anything.

But, isn't that exactly what you're saying, when you try to tell us that the actual literal words that he spoke out of his mouth are not the actual literal thoughts that he intended to convey? Wouldn't we then have to do some self-determination to decide what of the actual literal words that he spoke we need to change to understand that actual literal thought he was intending to convey. Further, as a leader of a nation, I would still ask, shouldn't we expect such a person, especially here in the U.S., to be smart enough to say what he means and to mean what he says?

As the President of the United States speaking of catastrophic events happening, or expected to happen, to our nation, shouldn't we expect his words to be critical to the issue? I mean really, do we want a leader who makes unimportant or ridiculous points when speaking about catastrophic events?

Personally, I don't think you've quite understood the reality of the nature of the man who sits in the big chair. He's a narcissist and so he has to make everything seem so much more important to how we view him and his handling of things. He knows there have been many cat 5 hurricanes. However, his intention is to present it to you in a way that you will say, "Oh what a great man he is. No one else could have handled this issue." Sadly, there are a lot of people that buy into what he's selling and that's why he keeps doing it. He isn't stupid, he just doesn't know all that he thinks he does. But, he knows how to present it to you so that you will think that he does.

As far as the words of the President of the United States having every nuance of every word second guessed...I'm guessing that you weren't born yesterday and that you're only choosing to 'not know' that second guessing and digging for nuanced meaning in presidential words is not some new phenomenon that has only come up in President Trump's administration. Every president has always had to deal with 'what the people heard'. The difference is that Donald Trump just gives them so much material to work with. Previous presidents haven't used social media to interact with the citizenry and sent out non-sensical diatribes 15 times a day.

I know I've said it before and I'll say it as long as it needs repeating, President Trump is his own worst enemy. It is better for a fool to keep his mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt.

God bless,
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Your scenario, however, assumes that it is normal for every last syllable that the president utters to be second-guessed and re-interpreted, even off-the-cuff comments that are not particularly critical to anything.

Meanwhile, the man who is likely to be the Democrat nominee (Joe Biden), and quite possibly the next president, campaigns on tales of his past doings that he has simply invented, ones that are false from beginning to end. And ones, if believed, benefit him, unlike a casual comment about the weather which was the occasion for this thread attacking President Trump!

Where are the threads berating Biden for his many lies and misstatements? Where are the threads about Biden penned by self-appointed analysts of the man's mental state started by those CF members who miss no opportunity to analyze every comment by President Trump?

Of course they are not to be found, proving that all the pious claims are baloney, completely lacking in credibility.

Biden is only 1 of 20+ Democratic candidates, so the commentary on him from the right is much less focused than if he were President. Even so, there are multiple threads about Biden's lies and misstatements.

Threads about Biden's false statements:

Biden has been telling fake war story on campaign trail

Protecting Joe Biden, from Joe Biden

Biden lies about the President. Multiple times

"Joe is not playing with a full deck."

That was just a brief scan of threads, not a website search.

Just because you can't find them, doesn't mean they aren't to be found.
 
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Hi again albion,

You then asked:
Where are the threads berating Biden for his many lies and misstatements? Where are the threads about Biden penned by self-appointed analysts of the man's mental state started by those CF members who miss no opportunity to analyze every comment by President Trump?

Oh, those threads are around. If you're unable to find them, I'll try and help you, but surely you can read as well as I can. Probably not as well as the President of the United States. After all, he's better at everything than us mere mortal citizens. However, one of the reasons that you don't hear quite as much about it is the reality of who each man is. Joe Biden is one who is campaigning for the office of the President of the United States. He hasn't gotten that job yet, and so his words aren't yet quite as important to any of us as the man who actually is now the President of the United States.

If Biden wins the Democratic nomination, I imagine you'll be hearing plenty concerning his faux paxs and slips of the tongue and picking apart every nuance of every sentence. However, as yet, no one is even sure that Joe Biden will be the one picked to represent the Democratic party. A lot of folks think that Bernie Sanders has a chance and many also think Kamala Harris has a chance. Elizabeth Warren is in pretty good shape right now also. We've still yet to see how Tom Steyer will come out. Nevertheless, when a candidate says something, it doesn't quite carry the same weight as they guy wearing the big boy pants.

Oh and for that help that I promised: Protecting Joe Biden, from Joe Biden

Biden has been telling fake war story on campaign trail

Oh No Joe, You Done It Again......

If you need more just let me know.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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Perhaps if White House staff had referred to each hurricane of devastating magnitude that hit the United States during his tenure as Trump 1, Trump 2, Trump 3, Trump 4, he could have remembered.
 
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Does that about sum up your position on natural disasters.
My question is: How do you apply the teachings of Jesus to your life. Mark 4:39 "And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm." We are told that WE will do greater works then Jesus did. If He could rebuke the wind and calm the sea, then all the more we can.

There is a 50 degree difference between the Poles and the Equator. So according to the laws of thermodynamics this has to equalize itself. Heat means faster spinning atoms and that gets translated to the wind. The law of thermodynamics does not require death and destruction for the temperature to stabilize itself.

New Orleans is a little different though because that was a flood. So then we have to look at Noah's flood. Clearly there was a need for people to repent and turn away from their sin. Also New Orleans had plenty of warning and they did not do what they could to protect themselves from the inevitable.

I have spend quite a bit of time looking at the maps for the low lying areas along the ocean shore to see who is going to be going under water. Right now Miami just changed the building codes so they are required to build 3 feet higher then before. So they are ready when the ocean level rises. Also we have what they call storm surges. This is an issue in places like NYC and they already have seen flooding there. London England has built The Thames Barrier to protect the city from flooding. There is also going to be an issue in Shanghai when eventually they will have problems with flooding.

Obama wanted to slow down global warming. Trump does not seem to be as interested in dealing with this and we have seen quite an increase in natural disasters under his administration.
 
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Perhaps if White House staff had referred to each hurricane of devastating magnitude that hit the United States during his tenure as Trump 1, Trump 2, Trump 3, Trump 4, he could have remembered.
He sort of put his foot in his mouth when he admitted that the storms are worse now then they were under previous administrations. Maybe when Mike Pence runs for president he can make a campaign promise that he will clean up the mess that Trump has made out of our environment.
 
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But, isn't that exactly what you're saying, when you try to tell us that the actual literal words that he spoke out of his mouth are not the actual literal thoughts that he intended to convey?
I didn't say that at all. Time and again what he says is quite understandable...but then comes the reinterpretation or alternate interpretation from opponents looking for a chance to say it meant something else.

And of course my other point about the alleged necessity for his critics to subject every word out of his mouth to their second-guessing while never, ever applying the same approach to any of the Dem candidates for the presidency draws only this excuse:
"Nevertheless, when a candidate says something, it doesn't quite carry the same weight as they guy wearing the big boy pants."

And if Biden or Warren or Harris or any of the other contenders makes it to the White House, then I know that their comments will be excused in the same way as Obama's were--"Oh, but he or she is the president so we must show respect to the office blah blah."
 
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I do not understand why the Washington Post all of a sudden is starting to support Trump after being against him all this time. I think that Jeffrey Bezos just likes to lock horns with Trump because they both have become so powerful so quick. So they want to flex their muscles to see how much control and power they really have.
 
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Your scenario, however, assumes that it is normal for every last syllable that the president utters to be second-guessed and re-interpreted, even off-the-cuff comments that are not particularly critical to anything.

Meanwhile, the man who is likely to be the Democrat nominee (Joe Biden), and quite possibly the next president, campaigns on tales of his past doings that he has simply invented, ones that are false from beginning to end. And ones, if believed, benefit him, unlike a casual comment about the weather which was the occasion for this thread attacking President Trump!

Where are the threads berating Biden for his many lies and misstatements? Where are the threads about Biden penned by self-appointed analysts of the man's mental state started by those CF members who miss no opportunity to analyze every comment by President Trump?

Of course they are not to be found, proving that all the pious claims are baloney, completely lacking in credibility.

Biden is only 1 of 20+ Democratic candidates, so the commentary on him from the right is much less focused than if he were President. Even so, there are multiple threads about Biden's lies and misstatements.

Threads about Biden's false statements:

Biden has been telling fake war story on campaign trail

Protecting Joe Biden, from Joe Biden

Biden lies about the President. Multiple times

"Joe is not playing with a full deck."

That was just a brief scan of threads, not a website search.

Just because you can't find them, doesn't mean they aren't to be found.

There's also the fact that Joe -despite his gaffes- is still more coherent than Trump.
 
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Biden is only 1 of 20+ Democratic candidates, so the commentary on him from the right is much less focused than if he were President.
I'll add that one to the list of excuses, but in the meanwhile, let me point out that HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER.

The idea that he is just one of a crowd of 20 or so is really one of the less convincing excuses. And by the way, I don't remember Trump getting a pass when he was but one of 18 Republican candidates in 2016. Isn't that right?
 
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I'll add that one to the list of excuses, but in the meanwhile, let me point out that HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER.

The idea that he is just one of a crowd of 20 or so is really one of the less convincing excuses. And by the way, I don't remember Trump getting a pass when he was but one of 18 Republican candidates in 2016. Isn't that right?

Biden isn't getting a pass now, either. But Trump didn't get nearly the scrutiny before the primaries that he does now that he is President.
 
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If Biden wins the Democratic nomination,
Nobody stands a chance against Trump. All they are doing is collecting their contributions and going through the motions. All anyone cares about is how much money Trump is going to put in their wallet. Wages are running between $12 & $15 per hour and people are happy with that. This is better then the $8 to $12 they were getting under Obama.
 
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Wages are running between $12 & $15 per hour and people are happy with that. This is better then the $8 to $12 they were getting under Obama.

Yes, but voters have a way of falling for that political principle we call "What have you done for me lately? :sigh:
 
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I'll add that one to the list of excuses, but in the meanwhile, let me point out that HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER.

The idea that he is just one of a crowd of 20 or so is really one of the less convincing excuses. And by the way, I don't remember Trump getting a pass when he was but one of 18 Republican candidates in 2016. Isn't that right?

And, despite your claims to the contrary, we've shown 5 threads that are specifically about Biden's gaffes/lies/misstatements. He isn't getting a pass.
 
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I believe Trump's intent originally was to present a category 5 storm as extremely dangerous and unprecedented, but his choice of words at this point in time make him sound like he forgot about all the prior category five hurricanes.
Okay, but after the first couple of times...
 
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And, despite your claims to the contrary, we've shown 5 threads that are specifically about Biden's gaffes/lies/misstatements. He isn't getting a pass.
Five, eh?. :dead: My search turned up two.

That puts them only about 1,000 behind the "Get Trump"-themed threads.
 
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Five, eh?. :dead:

That puts them only about 1,000 behind the "Get Trump"-themed threads.

Imagine that, the leader of the free world gets more scrutiny than an unemployed guy in a crowded field of candidates.
 
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Five, eh?. :dead: My search turned up two.

That puts them only about 1,000 behind the "Get Trump"-themed threads.

You apparently aren't very good at searching. I didn't even do a search and found 4. MiamiTed listed one that I hadn't found.

Feel free to post the "1000 Get Trump" threads. Feel free to actually do a real search and compare it against what was posted against Obama, or even Hillary when she was the DNC nominee. During the last election there were at least as many "Get Hillary" threads as there were "Get Trump threads".

Trying to compare the attention that the President gets to the attention one in a crowded field gets is disingenuous, at best.
 
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Feel free to post the "1000 Get Trump" threads.
Well, I found 4 of the above variety just on the current list of new threads, covering less than the last 24 hours. Now consider how many others have appeared since 2016 and my estimate may actually be low.
 
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