Why do Republican legislatures suddenly hate democracy when they lose?

[SummerMadness]

Republicans in Wisconsin and Michigan, defeated in November, seek payback by limiting the powers of incoming Democrats

After being defeated at the ballot box last month, Republicans in Wisconsin and Michigan are seeking to deny Democrats full control of state government, prompting a public outcry against the attempted power grab by national figures who include potential 2020 candidates Tom Steyer and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

In a scene reminiscent of the protests against the anti-union push by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) eight years ago, demonstrators rallied at the state capitol here Monday and repeatedly spoke out during a hearing on the GOP legislative package, which was introduced late Friday and is expected to come up for a vote as early as Tuesday.

We expand or maintain certain powers, but if we lose, we try to change the laws to prevent oversight. This is not how the system is supposed to work. These antics were also seen in North Carolina (including trying to sneak in ballot initiatives to take power from the governor because he was from the opposite party). And now we're seeing election fraud in North Carolina, the corruption in the GOP is rampant.

 

[Nithavela]

For the same reason democrats hated the electoral college in 2016.

Everyone hates losing and blames the system instead of himself.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

For the same reason democrats hated the electoral college in 2016.

Everyone hates losing and blames the system instead of himself.

Sure, but there's a difference between complaining about a system that doesn't work in your favor and actually chucking democracy out the window to spite the winners of the election.

 

[JackRT]

Sure, but there's a difference between complaining about a system that doesn't work in your favor and actually chucking democracy out the window to spite the winners of the election.

The GOP took exactly the same approach after President Obama was elected. It was not simply anti-Democractic, it was anti-democratic and ignores everything that the constitution was about. Tribalism won again.

 

[Nithavela]

Sure, but there's a difference between complaining about a system that doesn't work in your favor and actually chucking democracy out the window to spite the winners of the election.

I think I prefer the latter. Better to take action than to just whine around.

It's not the republicans fault that the democrats play by the rules.

 

[LoAmmi]

I think I prefer the latter. Better to take action than to just whine around.

It's not the republicans fault that the democrats play by the rules.

We could never change the EC because of the difficulty getting an amendment through.

 

[Nithavela]

We could never change the EC because of the difficulty getting an amendment through.

See? Thats typical liberal quitter-talk.

You're not supposed to play by the rules, you are supposed to break them and then point at your opposition as a distraction.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Perhaps they are starting a Resist movement in their state.

 

[LoAmmi]

See? Thats typical liberal quitter-talk.

You're not supposed to play by the rules, you are supposed to break them and then point at your opposition as a distraction.

I hope this is sarcasm.

 

[Nithavela]

I hope this is sarcasm.

Why would you believe that?

What good are democrats for their voters if they always take the moral high ground and never get anything done?

 

[super animator]

Broad brushing makes the divided even further.

 

[LoAmmi]

Why would you believe that?

What good are democrats for their voters if they always take the moral high ground and never get anything done?

It isn't moral high ground. No Republican state would go along with changing that aspect of the Constitution. It would be foolish to waste time and resources on that fight.

 

[Nithavela]

It isn't moral high ground. No Republican state would go along with changing that aspect of the Constitution. It would be foolish to waste time and resources on that fight.

You're not supposed to do a legal fight. Just ensure that the deck is stacked in your favor.

 

[LoAmmi]

You're not supposed to do a legal fight. Just ensure that the deck is stacked in your favor.

I don't even know how'd Democrats would attempt to do that in this case. The elections are specified in the Constitution and even a very liberal Supreme Court would not have allowed someone to just create a law changing the Electoral College.

That said, I fully believe that if Texas ever flipped blue, Republicans would start immediately decrying the Electoral College and demand it be changed.

 

[Nithavela]

I don't even know how'd Democrats would attempt to do that in this case.

And thats why they lose so many elections.

Ever heard of gerrymandering? Voter supression? Lame duck law changes?

 

[LoAmmi]

And thats why they lose so many elections.

Ever heard of gerrymandering? Voter supression? Lame duck law changes?

Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the electoral college. Voter suppression might, but that's an evil thing and shouldn't be done. Lame duck law changes also have nothing to do with the electoral college.

 

[Nithavela]

Voter suppression might, but that's an evil thing and shouldn't be done.

See? There's your problem. Always virtue signalling.

 

[LoAmmi]

See? There's your problem. Always virtue signalling.

LOL

 

[SummerMadness]

Wisconsin Republicans Approve Bills Stripping Power From Incoming Democratic Governor

After a rancorous, sleepless night of debate, Republican lawmakers early Wednesday pushed through a sweeping set of bills that will limit the power of Wisconsin’s incoming governor, a Democrat.

The legislation, which Democrats vehemently opposed and protesters chanted their anger over, passed through the Republican-held State Legislature after hours of closed-door meetings and some amendments. The votes fell largely along party lines; no Democrats supported the measures.

 

[SummerMadness]

North Carolina Republicans Try to Ensure They'll Be in Charge of Future Elections

Republicans in North Carolina are attempting to push through a bill that would ensure their control over voting procedure in election years.

State Rep. David Lewis (R), who chairs the elections committee, filed the bill in the North Carolina House of Representatives on Monday amid allegations of Republican-led ballot theft during the 2018 midterm elections.

The bill would require election boards in every county in the state to be chaired by a member of the political party with the highest number of registered voters in odd-numbered years. During even-numbered years, the boards would be chaired by a member of the party with the second-highest number of registered voters.

North Carolina has more registered Democrats than Republicans, which would mean a Republican member of every election board in the state would be in charge of voting procedure during election years.