WHO IS GOD'S TRUE CHURCH ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD?

[klutedavid]

Hello again, Karola.

It is just you and the bible right?

I am not a protestant, I am a Christian. The Bible teaches you who Christ is and why you need Him. The Holy Spirit guides us in all things Christian.

If I have a problem with Jesus Christ crucified and raised on the third day, quote me where I have stated that.

Am I correct if I assume that, you do not hold to a doctrine on how long Jesus was in the tomb?

Some say three days and three nights, e.t.c.

As for accusations, it is you accusing others of sin if they belong to any particular denomination. The greatest error is normally found where it is just the individual and the bible.

Paul said that no church divisions exist, not me.
You cannot be a factional Christian and at the same time, be living in the spirit.

Now I actually agree with you, factions and disputes are of the flesh, which is why, many times I have left these kind of websites, actually asking staff to ban me, for in truth it does no good for your Christian walk. But I succumb to the flesh at times and return for a short while.

Very good point and glad you agree.

Live by the spirit and not by the flesh, and your factional bias will evaporate. Debate is a necessary part of the Christian life, you cannot avoid correcting others.

I am sure most will make excuses for the disputes and factions they enter into here, yourself included, but it is mainly the flesh/ego, coming here to proclaim to others the knowledge people think they have, it just becomes a scripture quoting contest, you may think you are immune from all of this, as do others, but you are not in truth

Again Karola, I have no denominational bias, therefore I am beyond correction.
I don't make Christian claims.

I am interested in evangelism, with the focus on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Do you understand what I am saying, Karola?

In the end all that matters, is that belief, bearing the fruit, and enduring in the faith. There is not much else involved in being a Christian, i.e., believing in Jesus!

KISS

Keep it simple and you cannot go wrong.

 

[klutedavid]

The answer was in the post you were responding to. EVERY Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God *MATTHEW 4:4.

JOHN 17:17 [17], Sanctify them through your truth: thy word is truth.

Do you agree that Jesus is the absolute truth?

 

[Karola]

Hello again, Karola.

I am not a protestant, I am a Christian. The Bible teaches you who Christ is and why you need Him. The Holy Spirit guides us in all things Christian.

Am I correct if I assume that, you do not hold to a doctrine on how long Jesus was in the tomb?

Some say three days and three nights, e.t.c.

Paul said that no church divisions exist, not me.
You cannot be a factional Christian and at the same time, be living in the spirit.

Very good point and glad you agree.

Live by the spirit and not by the flesh, and your factional bias will evaporate. Debate is a necessary part of the Christian life, you cannot avoid correcting others.

Again Karola, I have no denominational bias, therefore I am beyond correction.
I don't make Christian claims.

I am interested in evangelism, with the focus on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Do you understand what I am saying, Karola?

In the end all that matters, is that belief, bearing the fruit, and enduring in the faith. There is not much else involved in being a Christian, i.e., believing in Jesus!

KISS

Keep it simple and you cannot go wrong.

I am a Christian too, I do not class myself under any particular denomination. There are many who do not attend a church who believe the Holy Spirit teaches them all things, so they do not need a church. Most of them have many weird and wonderful beliefs.
There are more important things than arguing the exact length of time Jesus was in the tomb. The important thing is knowing he died and rose again, your priorities are way off if you want to argue about that
Then If you believe you know much truth evangelise where it would do more good, outside of these websites.
I guess to you it is fruit to accuse others of sin if they belong to any particular denomination, they should go it alone as you do

 

[JLB777]

In the end all that matters, is that belief, bearing the fruit, and enduring in the faith. There is not much else involved in being a Christian, i.e., believing in Jesus!

This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it. 2 John 6



JLB

 

[JLB777]

I wonder if we should be comparing ourselves to sheep. After all, like sheep, we have all gone astray. At this point, we're supposed to be wise as serpents, but gentle as doves. If we try to be sheep, we'll just keep going astray.

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John10:27-28



JLB

 

[Saint Steven]

There are only two authentic livestock, sheep and goats. Sheep move in one flock but goats separate themselves, and stand on high places.
Goats also head butt anything that gets too close.

We may have some goats right here on the forum. Their grammar is typically atrocious. And they are REALLY baaaaaaaaaad spellers.

 

[Saint Steven]

Proving your point? I doubt it, but that was funny. So back to the OP, did you have any scriptures to share?

Sure.

Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

 

[Saint Steven]

John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

 

[klutedavid]

We may have some goats right here on the forum. Their grammar is typically atrocious. And they are REALLY baaaaaaaaaad spellers.

Your not wrong.

 

[klutedavid]

This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it. 2 John 6



JLB

Hello JLB777.

You quoted this verse.

This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

What is the commandment, singular?

 

[klutedavid]

John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

They are the Gentiles in the context of John 10.
Then we have one flock, amen.

 

[klutedavid]

Greetings.

Your reply.

I am a Christian too, I do not class myself under any particular denomination.

That's the way Karola, keep it simple and clean.

There are many who do not attend a church who believe the Holy Spirit teaches them all things, so they do not need a church.

Not a good thing to do, we need fellowship in the Holy Spirit.

Most of them have many weird and wonderful beliefs.

Usually the Christian noise is so loud you may wonder, what it is that they believe.

There are more important things than arguing the exact length of time Jesus was in the tomb. The important thing is knowing he died and rose again, your priorities are way off if you want to argue about that

Some folk put emphasis on that point. I just follow the text, Jesus rose the third day.

Then If you believe you know much truth evangelise where it would do more good, outside of these websites.

Thanks for the advice and that is what I do.

I guess to you it is fruit to accuse others of sin if they belong to any particular denomination, they should go it alone as you do

No, they can attend any church of their choice.

But they cannot be divisive, factional, they cannot place emphasis on anything else, but Christ alone.

 

[Karola]

Greetings.

Your reply.

That's the way Karola, keep it simple and clean.

Not a good thing to do, we need fellowship in the Holy Spirit.

Usually the Christian noise is so loud you may wonder, what it is that they believe.

Some folk put emphasis on that point. I just follow the text, Jesus rose the third day.

Thanks for the advice and that is what I do.

No, they can attend any church of their choice.

But they cannot be divisive, factional, they cannot place emphasis on anything else, but Christ alone.

Possibly you think Paul was in error for not keeping it simple. Peter said things he wrote were hard to understand.
Yes, Jesus rose on the third day, are you including the day he died as one of the days? Or do the days start from the following day? Is it important to you either way? Keep it simple. Three days and three nights Jesus said he would be in the heart of the earth didn't he? Is it worthy of a lengthy debate? Is that keeping it simple and clean?
I'm glad you approve of people being able to worship at factional churches as you put it

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Sure.

Acts 20:28
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

And how do you believe this scripture relates to the OP?

 

[Karola]

Greetings.

Your reply.

That's the way Karola, keep it simple and clean.

Not a good thing to do, we need fellowship in the Holy Spirit.

Usually the Christian noise is so loud you may wonder, what it is that they believe.

Some folk put emphasis on that point. I just follow the text, Jesus rose the third day.

Thanks for the advice and that is what I do.

No, they can attend any church of their choice.

But they cannot be divisive, factional, they cannot place emphasis on anything else, but Christ alone.

BTW
Simple and clean is good. Some people spend such lengthy time reading up on the greek, or other translations of the Bible, plus strongs concordance for example and much else, including scholars and theologians. I imagine they believe the Holy Spirit cannot enlighten us through reputable translations in our native language, he is limited in that regard. All that time spent, when if they had kept it clean and simple they could simply have trusted the Holy Spirit to lead them into truth through a bible written in their native language couldn't they. And they could have used the extra time they would then have to evangelise

 

[LoveGodsWord]

We may have some goats right here on the forum. Their grammar is typically atrocious. And they are REALLY baaaaaaaaaad spellers.

Steve, so in your view only American english spelling is correct and anyone not from America is a goat? So is there much hope for mankind if God committed the Gospel to humble fisherman? Have a read of *1 CORINTHIANS 3:19-20; 1 CORINTHIANS 1:21-25; 1 CORINTHIANS 2:14-16

The JEWS said similar things to Jesus. They said we have ABRAHAM to our father and were never in bondage to any man. Jesus said to them whosoever commits sin is the servant of sin. If you were Abrahams children you would do the works of Abraham.

Pauls says something similar.

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it no matter where it comes from.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

 

[JLB777]

Hello JLB777.

You quoted this verse.

What is the commandment, singular?

Love God by loving our neighbor.

The way we love God is by obeying His commandment to love His children.


If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 John 4:20-21



JLB

 

[Saint Steven]

Your not wrong.

You're funny.

 

[Saint Steven]

And how do you believe this scripture relates to the OP?

This is the church that meets on the first day of the week. Part of the true church, the whole flock.

Acts 20:5-7
These men went on ahead and waited for us at Troas. 6 But we sailed from Philippi after the Festival of Unleavened Bread, and five days later joined the others at Troas, where we stayed seven days. 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

 

[Saint Steven]

Steve, so in your view only American english spelling is correct and anyone not from America is a goat? So is there much hope for mankind if God committed the Gospel to humble fisherman? Have a read of *1 CORINTHIANS 3:19-20; 1 CORINTHIANS 1:21-25; 1 CORINTHIANS 2:14-16

The JEWS said similar things to Jesus. They said we have ABRAHAM to our father and were never in bondage to any man. Jesus said to them whosoever commits sin is the servant of sin. If you were Abrahams children you would do the works of Abraham.

Pauls says something similar.

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it no matter where it comes from.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.

I'm fine with international spelling and grammar, as long as they are correct. Knowing the difference between "your" and "you're" is universal. And I don't reject someone on that basis out of hand. But it informs me about their education and intelligence. Even Balaam's donkey could speak for God. Who am I to judge?