WHO IS GOD'S TRUE CHURCH ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD?

[klutedavid]

In your view does it mean some of his Commandments?

I'm asking you where it says 'all'?

That is what you wrote continuously, you must support that statement.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You are quoting the two verses below out of the context, which gives this verse another sinister meaning.

HEBREWS 10:26-27
[26], For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
[27], But a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Every Christian in the world commits willful sin and that cannot be stopped. That includes you also, LGW, and you cannot deny that. Anyone who denies that they are a sinner is a liar.

The context that the two verses quoted above, was embedded within, is simply the rejection of Jesus Christ by the Hebrews.

Not really. The scriptures say what they mean and have application for all truth in God's Word. If you sin willfully after you receive a knowledge of the truth, nothing can help you unless you seek God in confession and repentance because you have now turned from a BELIEVER to an UNBELIEVER in God's WORD because you have rejected God's truth.

1 JOHN 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I'm asking you where it says 'all'?

That is what you wrote continuously, you must support that statement.

Of course it is talking about all of God's commandments. Did you think it is only talking about keeping some of them?

JAMES 2:10-11
[10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. [11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And by this we know that we know him, if we keep [ALL JAMES 2:10-11] his commandments.
[4], He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

[klutedavid]

In your view does it mean some of his Commandments? You can see I added <ALL> in brackets and it is not a part of the text. It is in reference to JAMES 2:10-11.

But it is riddled through your posts. I was wondering where you got that idea ('all') from.

 

[klutedavid]

Not really. The scriptures say what they mean and have application for all truth in God's Word. If you sin willfully after you receive a knowledge of the truth, nothing can help you unless you seek God in confession and repentance because you have now turned from a BELIEVER to an UNBELIEVER in God's WORD because you have rejected God's truth.

1 JOHN 2:1, My little children, these things write I unto you, that you sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

So you disregard the context when you read the scripture?

 

[klutedavid]

In your view does it mean some of his Commandments? You can see I added <ALL> in brackets and it is not a part of the text. It is in reference to JAMES 2:10-11.

But the verse in James says, 'all the law', not all the commandments. Your not being concise in your references, far too loose.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So you disregard the context when you read the scripture?

Not at all. The context is willfully continuing in sin after you receive a knowledge of the truth.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

But the verse in James says, 'all the law', not all the commandments. Your not being concise in your references, far too loose.

Not at all context is the 10 commandments as James sets the context with Do not kill and and Do not commit adultery v10-11

 

[klutedavid]

Not at all. The context is willfully continuing in sin after you receive a knowledge of the truth.

No it's not LGW. The sin the author is talking about is the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

No it's not LGW. The sin the author is talking about is the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.

JESUS is the WORD of GOD. If you reject any of the WORD of GOD you reject JESUS. *JOHN 1:1-4; 14. If we receive a KNOWLEDGE of the truth [GOD'S WORD] and continue in sin we reject Jesus. If that is the case nothing more to look forward to but God's judgment. v27. because you have tunred from a BELIEVER to an UNBELIEVER.

 

[klutedavid]

Not at all context is the 10 commandments as James sets the context with Do not kill and and Do not commit adultery v10-11

That your interpretation, the text states, 'all the law', not 'all the commandments'.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

That your interpretation, the text states, 'all the law', not 'all the commandments'.

Not at all James quotes the 10 commandments as context not me *JAMES 2:9-11

 

[klutedavid]

JESUS is the WORD of GOD. If you reject any of the WORD of GOD you reject JESUS. *JOHN 1:1-4; 14. If we receive a KNOWLEDGE of the truth [GOD'S WORD] and continue in sin we reject Jesus. If that is the case nothing more to look forward to but God's judgment. v27

Once again, your preaching the SDA version.

The reference to John 1, has nothing to do with adding words to the scripture.

 

[klutedavid]

Not at all James quotes the 10 commandments as context not me *JAMES 2:9-11

James says 'the law', not the ten commandments. That is your interpretation.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Once again, your preaching the SDA version. The reference to John 1, has nothing to do with adding words to the scripture.

Not at all. It is God's WORD and we should believe and follow it. Sin will keep all who knowingly continue in it out of God's KINGDOM.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

James says 'the law', not the ten commandments. That is your interpretation.

No he specifies what law he is talking about and says we will be judged by it.

JAMES 2:8-12
[8], If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well:
[9], But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors.
[10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.
[12], So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Sorry Dave, God's WORD'S not mine; the Ten commandments *EXODUS 20:1-17

 

[klutedavid]

Not at all. It is God's WORD and we should believe and follow it. Sin will keep all who knowingly continue in it out of God's KINGDOM.

Wrong, that is your interpretation.

Like I said before, your teaching disqualifies the saved from salvation. Everyone sins whether they admit to it or not.

 

[klutedavid]

No he specifies what law he is talking about and says we will be judged by it.

JAMES 2:8-12
[8], If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well:
[9], But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors.
[10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11], For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.
[12], So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Sorry Dave, God's WORD'S not mine; the Ten commandments *EXODUS 20:1-17

Once again, it says 'the law of liberty', not the law of condemnation.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Wrong, that is your interpretation.

Like I said before, your teaching disqualifies the saved from salvation. Everyone sins whether they admit to it or not.

Really Dave? So in your view you can continue in a life of known unrepentant sin and still make it to heaven? Hmm some are going to be dissappointed come jugment day. *MATTHEW 7:13-23. The saved are saved as long as they repent of their sins. They are not in a saved state before God while continuing in known unrepentant sin *HEBREWS 10:26-27

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Once again, it says 'the law of liberty', not the law of condemnation.

Who said that it says law of condemnation? Your only condemned by it if you break it. But yep James is referring to the 10 Commandments all right. *JAMES 2:9-11