Your Second Brain Is Your Gut

[Justatruthseeker]

Does anyone think Justatruthseeker realises he just supported the argument that humans came from bacteria, in his effort to disbelieve mitochondira came from bacteria?

I tend to avoid this forum, but occasionally the irony is so strong it drags me in.

I would have avoided it still if I was you. Apparently you don't understand what a hypothesis is either..... and then we go to the story that once upon a time... I mean 1 to 2 billion years ago....

Apparently irony and sarcasm was lost upon you... I'll try to be less subtle next time, although I am not sure how that is possible.....

 

[Tanj]

I would have avoided it still if I was you.

On that we agree.

I'll try to be less subtle next time, although I am not sure how that is possible.....

We agree there as well. I don't think you are capable of subtlety or irony either.

 

[jamesbond007]

I’m a Christian and I’ve got a biology degree. Intelligent Design is pseudoscience! Evolution is a process and it occurred in the past as well as occurring now. Evolution is how life diversified. There is active research in Abiogenesis which is how life came from chemicals. They’re separate fields and you don’t need Abiogenesis to study evolution.

I'm not discussing ID, but the intelligence behind God's designs. As a Christian, this is described in Genesis. Once we study new findings such as the OP, we find the intelligence behind God's creation.

Moreover, you believe in pseudoscience. Before abiogenesis, there was spontaneous generation. Both have been rendered pseudoscience.

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

I'm not discussing ID, but the intelligence behind God's designs. As a Christian, this is described in Genesis. Once we study new findings such as the OP, we find the intelligence behind God's creation.

Moreover, you believe in pseudoscience. Before abiogenesis, there was spontaneous generation. Both have been rendered pseudoscience.

With those espousing evolutionary beliefs, it is quite difficult for me to tell between those seriously believing evolutionism is a science and all this requires (e.g. abiogenesis, spontaneous generation etc.), and those here just to have a little laugh about how absurd evolutionism really is.

 

[Shemjaza]

With those espousing evolutionary beliefs, it is quite difficult for me to tell between those seriously believing evolutionism is a science and all this requires (e.g. abiogenesis, spontaneous generation etc.), and those here just to have a little laugh about how absurd evolutionism really is.

"Ha! Ha! HA! It's absurd!" isn't actually an argument.

Also, implying that "spontaneous generation" is necessary for evolution is a lie.

 

[Jimmy D]

With those espousing evolutionary beliefs, it is quite difficult for me to tell between those seriously believing evolutionism is a science and all this requires (e.g. abiogenesis, spontaneous generation etc.), and those here just to have a little laugh about how absurd evolutionism really is.

Well, I'm sold! Let's throw out evolutionism!

So what now? How do we explain the diversity of life on Earth? Or should we just not think about it too much?

 

[Nithavela]

Well, I'm sold! Let's throw out evolutionism!

So what now? How do we explain the diversity of life on Earth? Or should we just not think about it too much?

Stop waisting your time and get on your knees praying, nothing else matters. Not space exploration, not the development of cleaner energies or new medicines. Nothing can be won by anything except repentance and then a quick death so you can get to heaven.

 

[Brightmoon]

I'm not discussing ID, but the intelligence behind God's designs. As a Christian, this is described in Genesis. Once we study new findings such as the OP, we find the intelligence behind God's creation.

Moreover, you believe in pseudoscience. Before abiogenesis, there was spontaneous generation. Both have been rendered pseudoscience.

spontaneous generation IS pseudoscience. This is what Pasteur disproved. Abiogenesis is a new field of study and there is a lot of current research being done . Don’t mix up your science terminology! Creationist organizations use different definitions to confuse laymen.

 

[tampasteve]

MOD HAT ON

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[tas8831]

I think this finding clearly is evidence that what we find of our physiology had intelligence behind it. God's designs are complex and has intelligence behind it such as DNA.

Your video does not seem to imply your thread title.

 

[tas8831]

The irony is that Evolutionism is more a pseudoscience than Creation ever can be.

I'm still not sure if you are being serious, or a Poe.

Your projection is legendary.

Can you demonstrate that evolution is pseudoscience?

Or better yet, that the OP has any merit?

 

[tas8831]

I'm not discussing ID, but the intelligence behind God's designs.

So, sort of a cart before the horse deal..

 

[jamesbond007]

So, sort of a cart before the horse deal..

The cart of evolutionary thinking and ToE came after God. Perhaps it was placed behind the horse to collect all that fell into it.

 

[jamesbond007]

Your video does not seem to imply your thread title.

How so?

 

[jamesbond007]

spontaneous generation IS pseudoscience. This is what Pasteur disproved. Abiogenesis is a new field of study and there is a lot of current research being done . Don’t mix up your science terminology! Creationist organizations use different definitions to confuse laymen.

You're getting off the topic and provide little scientific argument.

The gut is telling us that there is more going on in our bodies that what we once believed. We thought that it was instinct or intuition association related to it such as "gut instinct" or "gut feeling." Perhaps there is more emotion or feeling tied to it than rational thought of the brain. This shows that there is sophisticated level of intelligence behind God's creation of humans and animals. I would think animals have more of a degree of instinct than us humans. Their physiology is different, so am not saying their is the gut like humans.

ETA: Maybe this is what's causing your upset over abiogenesis being pseudoscience, i.e. your gut is acting up.

 

[tas8831]

The cart of evolutionary thinking and ToE came after God. Perhaps it was placed behind the horse to collect all that fell into it.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Perhaps you think begging the question is a valid form of logical inference, but nobody else does.

 

[tas8831]

It's wonderful until it doesn't work right and something goes wrong. IBS costs billions of dollars of lost productivity every year and yet we still don't know exactly what causes it in most cases, or how to cure it.

This seems to be true.
Which enterprise shall we have investigate the issue of IBS - science or religion?

 

[tas8831]

Doing the right research and with new discoveries being made.....It takes a loooooooooooot of faith to believe in evolution and big bang. I used to believe it. I was a huge science nerd. But not anymore. I strongly believe now more than ever that there is a designer.

It took me no faith at all to accept evolution, just the evidence.

 

[tas8831]

Hypothesis.... You keep presenting hypothesis as fact, a mistake a real scientists would never make.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrion

"There are two hypotheses about the origin of mitochondria: endosymbiotic and autogenous. The endosymbiotic hypothesis suggests that mitochondria were originally prokaryotic cells, capable of implementing oxidative mechanisms that were not possible for eukaryotic cells; they became endosymbionts living inside the eukaryote. In the autogenous hypothesis, mitochondria were born by splitting off a portion of DNA from the nucleus of the eukaryotic cell at the time of divergence with the prokaryotes; this DNA portion would have been enclosed by membranes, which could not be crossed by proteins. Since mitochondria have many features in common with bacteria, the endosymbiotic hypothesis is more widely accepted."

But let's all be honest, if that is possible on evolutionists side. no bacteria has been observed to become anything other than bacteria, so your hypothesis has no scientific foundation, but is simply want-it-to-be-so.......

Also you got no evidence theoropods evolved into birds. You got feathered dinosaurs, but no precursor. Oh my bad, this is the part where we insert the missing common ancestor, right? Right????

Cyanobacterial precursor to chloroplasts. Let's see, how does that story go? "Somewhere around 1 to 2 billion years ago......" Yah, ok..... if you all say so..... Shouldn't that story start out "Once upon a time......"

So what? DNA showed that those finches were all interbreeding and had never been reproductively isolated and so never underwent speciation. Doesn't stop you from ignoring the DNA evidence, so why bring up DNA if you aren't going to accept it???? Ahhh, pick and choose right? Evolutionists best friend, ignoring 99.9% of the data.....

And the creationist hypothesis is -

POOF from dust of the ground?

Please present your evidence and the proposed mechanism by which the POOFer turned silicates into cytochromes.

 

[tas8831]

I'm not discussing ID, but the intelligence behind God's designs.

Question begging, but do tell us about the intelligence in God's design of the hyena's female reproductive tract.