UFO's

[Chinchilla]

I see...so you intently wish to hang yourself in ignorance anyways, is that right?

If planets are physicall as you claim then how can they fall on earth and not destroy it ?

Revelation 12:4
“And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

 

[Chinchilla]

I watched most of the documentaries about Ron Wyatt and I believe him. But this non-human Y chromosome found in Jesus's blood really made me think... I'm at work right now and kind of busy but I will comment more when I get home

Good that it was non human because if it was then Jesus could not be born of virgin .

 

[Shek]

If planets are physicall as you claim then how can they fall on earth and not destroy it ?

Dude you're killing me...

All of Revelation is future-tense.

John is recording what he's seeing with his eyes, in future events that haven't happened yet. So unless you claim to know what John is actually seeing...you have no valid argument.

 

[Chinchilla]

Dude you're killing me...

All of Revelation is future-tense.

John is recording what he's seeing with his eyes, in future events that haven't happened yet. So unless you claim to know what John is actually seeing...you have no valid argument.

So are prophets like Ezekiel , which you quote for your UFO today ?

 

[Bartek Swierczek]

Good that it was non human because if it was then Jesus could not be born of virgin .

 

[Shek]

Well, technically not true...

I know what the church teaches, but there's no evidence that Mary's hymen was intact.

A Jewish wedding and honeymoon would contradict what the Church teaches....

Ironically, the Vatican has only just now acknowledged this possibility...just two days ago.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...nity-requirement-for-brides-of-christ-226181/

 

[Shek]

Even if Jesus's "Y chromosome" belonged to human race, Miriam could still maintain her virginity by getting pregnant in supernatural way.

Not likely....

The probability of abduction and artificial insemination is more believable having only a single "Y" chromosome.

Since there were no witnesses to Jesus' actual birth, then testimony written in Matthew and Luke are hearsay and cannot be proven. The passage about Gabriel appearing in Luke's gospel has been proven to be a sham and was added to the story.

The only evidence that would hold water would be testimony authored by Joseph or Mary.

 

[Chinchilla]

Well, technically not true... Even if Jesus's "Y chromosome" belonged to human race, Miriam could still maintain her virginity by getting pregnant in supernatural way.

He would have oryginal sin

 

[Bartek Swierczek]

Acts 1:9

 

[Chinchilla]

Well, if God can raise up human beings out of the stones (Matthew 3:9), He can also create human Y chromosome not contaminated with "original sin".

By assuming abduction, I think we are starting lowering God to the level of those alien beings who are obviously technically more advanced than we are, but morally not that far away from us. God is someone much more than that. Ancient nations started worshiping alien arrivals as their "gods", Israel was suppose to know better...

Not abduction rather Incarnation because God does not have beginning , he simply decided to enter his creation .

 

[Shek]

Well, if God can raise up human beings out of the stones (Matthew 3:9)

Matthew 3:9 is out of context in your reference.

By assuming abduction, I think we are starting lowering God to the level of those alien beings who are obviously technically more advanced than we are, but morally not that far away from us.

Now you're assuming that the "Y" chromosome came from the Lord.

What if it wasn't.....from the Lord?

Christianity = dead.

What if it's alien DNA, like Ron claimed?

Christianity = dead.

And....you're assuming that Ron's discovery is genuine.

In every case that's presented, Christianity is dead-meat ....cuz it would prove that Jesus is not in the bloodline of David, which would then mean that he's not the Jewish Messiah.

Christianity = dead.

Ron's discovery opens Pandora's box and nothing good can come of it.

I believe that Ron believes that what he found is the Ark, but I don't believe that he found the blood until after it was "planted". The 4 angels that he claimed to have met during his 4th visit into the chamber....were Israeli military in plain clothes. His story of what the angels told him makes no sense.

Why were they in plain street clothes?

Why did they appear in Ron's 4th visit to the chamber? If they were assigned to protect the Ark....what, did they take a 4 day break and decide to tour the city instead? C'mon.....only someone gullible like Ron would believe this and not even stop to second guess what's going on.

And what about Ron's claim of the Sunday Law being passed? This right here is the enormous red-flag waving that reads..."This is a set-up". The Sunday Law is another conspiracy theory that originated from SDA Ellen G. White in the late 1800's. 1982 to 2018 = 36 years.

The Sunday Law that's being passed all over the world right now is based on this conspiracy theory. This is part of the lie that religious leaders and the wicked are implementing in order to fool the masses. Cuz if they can get the gullible and stupid people to believe the lie, then those people won't be focused on the real event when it comes to pass....cuz they'll think that it already happened.

If Ron's discovery were in fact the Ark, now you're saying that Jeremiah's promise that Israel would never again receive the Ark....is a lie. SURE, that's believable. Jeremiah, a very important biblical prophet is now....wrong? Eh-eh

There's not a single thing that would make Ron's discovery a good thing and it would utterly destroy Christianity as a whole. It would level it to dust....

I'm too much of a skeptic and I smell a load of bovine excrement. Somebody is lying somewhere.....but I seriously doubt that it's Ron. He's just too trusting and was clearly a pawn in an intentional deception.

 

[Shek]

Someone arrived to collect Him?

Matthew 28

3. Was the cloud there to hide something? I mean, that's the purpose of clouds in the Bible, right...?

I'm going to skip your second question just so I can address this one.

I wished I'd have downloaded the video when I first discovered it, but I've yet to find it again and it's literally disappeared from the net entirely (not surprised).

Two young men were on a rooftop in what appeared to be an older neighborhood like NY City. One was tying down a rooftop antenna and the other was filming him as the other is explaining (to the camera) how to install it correctly.

Then the guy doing the install...stops mid-sentence and squints...followed by a perplexed look on his face and he says...."What is that?"

Guy with the camera turns around and films a UFO in a cloud that's level with the camera lens. The craft is hovering at least four stories from street level and then....another object (a bright glowing orb) rises very suddenly and very quickly and hovers just below the UFO in a self-generating cloud. (You hear the cameraman's reaction clearly, which is to say he "flipped" to put it lightly). You could clearly see the edge of the ship and a moving cloud that was similar in appearance to a dry-ice cloud but it didn't dissipate. It just surrounds the craft but moves freely....

Once the brightly glowing orb is just underneath the craft....the craft then start flashing multi-colored lights which can be seen through the cloud...and the two float off at a slow enough speed to be caught vividly on camera.

This all happened maybe 20 feet away from this camera lens on a building rooftop...and the craft and orb hovering on the side of the neighboring building.

Now here's where this video is literally the best evidence that I've ever seen UP CLOSE...

The video was taken before the year 2000....long before drones were even a thought. There could not have been any wires or any fakery, it just wasn't feasible for two young guys. You'd need a helicopter for one because the craft floated off past the buildings....with a stationary glowing light orb beneath it.

If anyone else can find the video, it's unmistakable....best evidence that I've ever seen and I've seen some damn outstanding UFO videos. This one was by far the best that I've ever seen up close....

My very first thought...the first time that I saw this video....was the Exodus.

 

[Bartek Swierczek]

Matthew 3:9 is out of context in your reference.

 

[Bartek Swierczek]

Matthew 28

 

[Shek]

It looks like you've done a hell of a research and I just wonder if there's any chance to tap into it, f.e. by visiting your website or something like that?

No website to visit...

 

[Childofgodharrison]

I can't find anything in Scripture supporting the belief that UFO's are real.

To believe in UFO's, one must think the Lord created other life out there
during Genesis, but didn't bother to send us the memo.

I've been asked about UFO's by unsaved co-workers and family, and since
I don't have a real answer for them, I simply tell them what Pat Robertson has
told his TV audience: "Unless and until our government comes forth to admit
the existence of extra terrestrials and that we were visited by them, a UFO
will always remain an unidentified flying object."

Sidenote: I'm still puzzled by all those crop circles though......

There are no aliens. There never was. Those are demons. That's why they are not mentioned in the bible. They want us to believe there are aliens so when the demons are locked out of the second heaven and stuck on the earth we will think that they are aliens.

 

[Catholic Values Voter]

I can't find anything in Scripture supporting the belief that UFO's are real.

To believe in UFO's, one must think the Lord created other life out there
during Genesis, but didn't bother to send us the memo.

I've been asked about UFO's by unsaved co-workers and family, and since
I don't have a real answer for them, I simply tell them what Pat Robertson has
told his TV audience: "Unless and until our government comes forth to admit
the existence of extra terrestrials and that we were visited by them, a UFO
will always remain an unidentified flying object."

Sidenote: I'm still puzzled by all those crop circles though......

Look up the Fermi Paradox. Aliens aren't interested in our civilization. I presume this is due to the fact that humans have been killing each other by the millions since the inception of our species. There wouldn't be any UFOs because the aliens who know about us probably think that avoiding humans is the safest course of action.

 

[Dave-W]

That sounds like an Archie Bunker statement when asked if he thought there was intelligent life on Mars.

“Of course. You don’t see them trying to come here, do ya?”

 

[Shek]

Aliens aren't interested in our civilization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel)

 

[Maria Sweet]

There are no little green men coming to visit us.

While ufo's are real you need to recognise that there are unidentified flying objects which are simply that unidentified objects.

But that there are also ufo's who'seorigins are demonic.
have a look at:- Aliens, evolution and the occult - creation.com.

Also look at the science behind space travel the site Atomic rocket gives a good explanation and shows just how unbelievable the idea of et visiting us realy is.

Why would an advanced alien species be interested in humans in the first place? There isn't any reason why a billion-year-old alien race would clandestinely spy on us. They have nothing to gain from it. What could humans tell them that they don't already know?