God's creation Timeline refutes evolution

[Aman777]

22 August 2018 Aman777: Ignorance about what Occam's Razor is.
Occam's Razor is used in science to find a preferable theory. If 2 theories give the same predictions then prefer the theory that postulates the fewer entities.

False, since my scientific theory explains all the conditions with the least amount of bovine excrement. See IF you think you can explain your theory with less words.

My scientific theory is that Humans inherited our Humanity from other Humans (descendants of Adam). NO magical evolution needed. Your time...

 

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At no time in the past has Humankind had dominion or rule over mosquitoes or Angels.

22 August 2018 Aman777: A delusion that Genesis 1:28-31 gives rule or dominion over Angels or maybe even mosquitoes.

29 And God said: ‘Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed—to you it shall be for food;
30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, [I have given] every green herb for food.’ And it was so.

"every fowl of the air" looks like birds, perhaps not mosquitoes and certainly not Angels.

22 August 2018 Aman777: Implies that Genesis 1:28-31 lies since it explitly states God gives only plants as food to mankind and animals (i.e. they are vegetarian).
Genesis 1:29-30 is wrong because mankind and animals have never been exclusively vegetarian.

 

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Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Adam/man was formed from the dust of the ground BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain on the 3rd Day.

A "BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain on the 3rd Day" fantasy because Genesis 2 has no days.
22 August 2018 Aman777: Mankind ignorance and his fantasy about Adam being created in the 3rd day

 

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I agree that evolution is Science Fiction. ...

23 August 2018 Aman777: "The Big Bang of our Cosmos" murders the descendants of Adam and Eve (or just Adam) .

1. 2 October 2018 Aman777: Hypocrisy when he is the one twisting God's Truth into fables, e.g. making God murder everyone in the universe with the Big Bang.
2. 2 October 2018 Aman777:"A "Multiverse composed of at least 3 Universes" delusion.
3. 2 October 2018 Aman777: Insult and nothing to do with his "21 k years between Adam and Eve" fairy story.
4. 27 September 2018 Aman777: A "You speak with forked tongue" lie because he still makes God murder everyone in the universe.
5. 27 September 2018 Aman777: Adds yet another fairy story to his fantasies (that Eve was not formed until "some 12k years ago".)
6. 26 September 2018 Aman777: A "accuse God of murdering everyone in the Universe" lie when he is doing that.
7. 25 September 2018 Aman777: Repeats the lie about the Hebrew in Genesis 1:10.
8. 25 September 2018 Aman777: A lie about the pronunciation of hüm which is "hoom", not his "hummmmm".
9. 25 September 2018 Aman777: A lie about the meaning of Genesis 1:2 by ignoring the context and highlighting his fantasy.
10. 24 September 2018 Aman777: "The first mention of water in Genesis is the reference to the "deep", which is a collection of water" goal shift and ignorance.
11. 24 September 2018 Aman777: A "Two false accusations about "lies", refuted (proven wrong) in one post"" lie.
12. 10 September 2018 Aman777: A "confirming the following verse" lie when my post was about his lie about Hebrew.
13. 7 September 2018 Aman777: "it sounds a lot like Hummm" lies.
14. 6 September 2018 Aman777: An ignorant and irrelevant "Read it and weep" reply
15. 6 September 2018 Aman777: A "The water was twisted and it made a roaring sound" fantasy.
16. 6 September 2018 Aman777: An "into the hollow firmament" lie.
17. 6 September 2018 Aman777: A "Thus, the Hebrew word for water means "a roaring" lie.
18. 6 September 2018 Aman777: Nothing but the usual fantasies about the Bible
19. 28 August 2018 Aman777: Adds to his "Adam's Earth" delusion (not an Earth or planet at all!).
20. 28 August 2018 Aman777: Fantasy about Genesis 1:9-10
21. 28 August 2018 Aman777: Adds to his "Adam's Earth" delusion ("NOT a rocky planet like today's Earth").
22. 28 August 2018 Aman777: An ignorant and irrelevant question about Genesis 2.
23. 27 August 2018 Aman777: Cherry picks a translation of the Bible to fit a delusion that a flood can destroy a planet.
24. 27 August 2018 Aman777: An irrelevant post to what is becoming a delusion that God or the Genesis author thinks mountains are 22.5 feet high.
25. 24 August 2018 Aman777: An "Adam was made like Jesus...." delusion when it was different (followed by yet more of his fantasies).
26. 24 August 2018 Aman777: An "Adam was made..." post irrelevant to his timeline killing Adam, Eve and/or their descendants in the Big Bang.
27. 24 August 2018 Aman777: Ignorance about Genesis 7:19-20 which gives the flood rising upward after covering the highest mountain.
28. 24 August 2018 Aman777: A delusion about the location of Eden (on a "22.5 feet high" mountain!, NEVER on Earth!).
    
29. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A lie that I wrote that evolution is science fiction in the post he replied to.
30. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A lie that evolution is fictional (it is science).
31. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A lie that evolution has to include abiogenesis ("because it doesn't tell us where the first life came from").
32. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A lie of an assumption of "prehistoric people before Humans" in evolution.
33. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A demand for an explanation of evolution revealing his argument from ignorance of evolution.
34. 22 August 2018 Aman777: Ignorance about what Occam's Razor is.
35. 21 August 2018 Aman777: A delusion that a quark-gluon plasma at enormous temperatures and pressures that cools down as the universe expands (Big Bang) is a world of water and earth (Genesis creation narrative).
36. 21 August 2018 Aman777: A lying "Is it magical genesis from nothing?" Big Bang question (I wrote what the Big Bang was and gave a source).
37. 21 August 2018 Aman777: Ignorance about the origin of the first stars which was from collapsing gas.
38. 21 August 2018 Aman777: A lie that the theory of evolution has to explain where matter came from.
39. 21 August 2018 Aman777: Ignorant "the plain old Gravity of the larger body (the 3rd Heaven)" gibberish about dark energy.
40. 20 August 2018 Aman777: Do you know what the Big Bang is and that it has nothing to do with Genesis (the answer is no !)?

8 questions and 12 items of fantasies , mistakes and ignorance.

 

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Your "so called" DNA evidence was contaminated when Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. ...

22 August 2018 Aman777: A "DNA evidence was contaminated" delusion about Noah's grandsons.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution
The evidence for the common ancestry of apes including us starts with the fossil record. The DNA evidence gives a matching "family" tree of differences between DNA. There is other DNA evidence.

Evolution of primates ("Hominina (humans and biped ancestors) and Panina (chimps) separated about 7.5 million years ago to 5.6 million years ago"). In order for the human Noah's grandsons to get "contaminated" DNA they would have to breed with other modern apes (chimpanzees, gorillas, etc.) or our common ancestors. Do we have

• Impossible inappropriate behavior with animals with probably no or infertile offspring or
• Time travel back a few millions years or
• A fantasy that the flood and Noah's grandsons happened ~6 million years ago or
• Another ignorant fantasy, Aman777 ?

P.S. 22 August 2018 Aman777: A fantasy that the Ark was a wooden spaceship?

IF the Ark had not come to our planet 11k years ago,...

 

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My scientific theory is that Humans inherited our Humanity from other Humans (descendants of Adam).

22 August 2018 Aman777: Abysmal ignorance that a trivial sentence is a scientific theory.
This is a scientific theory.
The triviality is that everyone inherited their humanity from their parents. Their parents inherited their humanity from their parents. etc. So humans inherited their humanity from the first humans. That would be Adam in the Bible (Genesis creation narrative).

 

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God refutes the false ToE in Genesis 1:21 (3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time) when He shows that The Trinity "created and brought forth" from WATER, every living creature that moveth. Science confirmed this Fact 2 years ago.

A probable lie that science confirmed 2 years ago that a religious Trinity "created and brought forth" from WATER, every living creature that moveth.
22 August 2018 Aman777: Cite the scientific paper that gave evidene that God (The Trinity) exists and that made every living creature that moveth from WATER.

 

[Chinchilla]

Adam was made the 3rd Day or 14 Billion years ago in man's time.
The sons of God (prehistoric men) were made the 5th Day which began 3.8 Billion years ago in man's time.
Eve was made on the present 6th Day or some 12,000 years ago, in man's time.

Adam AND Eve were "created" in God's Image or born again Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel or some 11,980 years ago + - in man's time. Gen 1:27 Gen 5:1-2

Adam was made on 6th day in period of 24 hours with rest of the animals in the garden

 

[Aman777]

Adam was made on 6th day in period of 24 hours with rest of the animals in the garden

Not Scriptural, as Genesis 2:4-7 shows.

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:9-10 These verses are telling us that Adam was also made on the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

See? These verses are confirming the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain.

Gen 2:7 ¶ And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man (Hebrew-Adam) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

On the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and rain Jesus made Adam. Amen?

Gen 2:8 ¶ And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Were Trees made AFTER Adam was formed? Yes, to go into the Garden. The problem with your view is that TREES were also made on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:12

You have confused the Spiritual Creation of Adam AND Eve on the 6th Day Gen 1:27 by God The Trinity with the "formation" of Adam from the dust on the 3rd Day, by Jesus. The problem with your view is that Eve was NOT made until the 6th Day Genesis 2:22 the Day of Salvation.

 

[Chinchilla]

Not Scriptural, as Genesis 2:4-7 shows.

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:9-10 These verses are telling us that Adam was also made on the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

See? These verses are confirming the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs and rain.

Gen 2:7 ¶ And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man (Hebrew-Adam) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

On the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and rain Jesus made Adam. Amen?

Gen 2:8 ¶ And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Were Trees made AFTER Adam was formed? Yes, to go into the Garden. The problem with your view is that TREES were also made on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:12

You have confused the Spiritual Creation of Adam AND Eve on the 6th Day Gen 1:27 by God The Trinity with the "formation" of Adam from the dust on the 3rd Day, by Jesus. The problem with your view is that Eve was NOT made until the 6th Day Genesis 2:22 the Day of Salvation.

Genesis 1 is talking about creation of earth , Genesis 2 goes into details of creation inside of beatiful garden in certain part of earth , this garden does not contain everything inside it only trees good for sights or these who have good fruit to eat, plus each animal created in front of Adam so he can name them , outside of garden there is alredy earth of full plants , fish and animals .

The text itself does not say billion of years , the only way you interpret this is because of science , people didn't interpret that for 5000+ years

 

[Aman777]

22 August 2018 Aman777: A delusion that Genesis 1:28-31 gives rule or dominion over Angels or maybe even mosquitoes.

Genesis 1:28 gives mankind dominion or rule over every living thing that moves:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Mosquitoes and Angels moveth proving you to be in error, again. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

22 August 2018 Aman777: Implies that Genesis 1:28-31 lies since it explitly states God gives only plants as food to mankind and animals (i.e. they are vegetarian).
Genesis 1:29-30 is wrong because mankind and animals have never been exclusively vegetarian.

I notice you eliminated Isaiah 11:7 which clearly shows that Jesus changes Lions and Bears into vegetarians during His thousand year reign. This conclusively shows that ALL living creatures becoming Vegetarian is in the FUTURE. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Genesis 1 is talking about creation of earth , Genesis 2 goes into details of creation inside of beatiful garden in certain part of earth , this garden does not contain everything inside it only trees good for sights or these who have good fruit to eat, plus each animal created in front of Adam so he can name them , outside of garden there is alredy earth of full plants , fish and animals .

Genesis One is the entire History of God's 6 creative Days/Ages, including events which are future to 2018, at the end of the present 6th Day. The first 34 verses of Genesis tell the entire History of God's 7 Day Creation and the 7th Day has no morning and no evening, showing it to be Eternity. What is really neat is that ALL of the rest of the Bible from Genesis 2:4 until the end of Revelation give the DETAILS of the outline of the creation shown in the first 34 verses of Genesis.

The text itself does not say billion of years , the only way you interpret this is because of science , people didn't interpret that for 5000+ years

Amen, now you're getting it. God told the entire History of His creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven and ONLY the Christians of the last days before Jesus returns, can understand Genesis. God told Daniel HOW to hide His scientific Truth in front of everyone's nose until the end.

Dan 12:4 ¶ But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Why did God hide His scientific Truth until the last days? It was to insure that ONLY by Faith can one be saved. Our God is an Awesome God. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

8 questions and 12 items of fantasies , mistakes and ignorance.

I agree that such adjectives describe your un-scriptural views. God Bless you

 

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Genesis 1:28 gives mankind dominion or rule over every living thing that moves:

23 August 2018 Aman777: A lie about Genesis 1:28 which gives mankind dominion or rule over every living thing that moves upon the earth.
This is animals that live on the ground, e.g. goats and cattle. Otherwise we have dominion over only fish and fowl .
Mosquitoes fly. Angels are supernatural beings like God, not "living creatures" and they fly.

 

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An example of the problems with an imaginary "God's Timeline
14+ Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10 Day 3
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4 Day 3
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos occurs. Day 3"
So God murders the descendants of Adam and Eve by filling the universe with a quark-gluon plasma with a temperature > 1,000,000,000,000 K for the quark epoch (things are worse in earlier epochs) !
I suspect that there is some delusion to add to the timeline to save them. Maybe state that Genesis lies about 1 creation so God makes Adam and Eve in a different universe and then billions of years later teleports them to Earth in this universe?
23 August 2018 Aman777: "The Big Bang of our Cosmos" murders the descendants of Adam and Eve (or just Adam).

Added "or just Adam" in case this is a delusion that Adam was alone for millions or billions of years before Eve was made or did not have children of millions or billion of years. That should be a delusion because Genesis 5:5 has Adam dying at the age of 930 years.

 

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An example of the problems with an imaginary "God's Timeline
14+ Billion years ago God makes Adam's Earth Gen 1:9-10 Day 3
14 Billion years ago Adam is formed Gen 2:4 Day 3
13.8 Billion years ago The Big Bang of our Cosmos occurs. Day 3"
Genesis 2 explicitly places Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden on Earth which did not exist 14 billion years ago. Eden's location is described with terrestrial landmarks. Pishon, Hiddekel (Tigris), Phrath (Euphrates) and Gihon. Together with a couple of lands.
23 August 2018 Aman777: Explain the location of Eden being described with terrestrial landmarks, not from your "Adam's Earth".

 

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I agree that such adjectives describe your un-scriptural views. God Bless you

23 August 2018 Aman777: A fantasy that my description of his "fantasies, mistakes and ignorance" are from "un-scriptural views"
For example, we both agree that the Big Bang happened despite differing "views". His ignorance is about what the Big Bang was (a universe filled with a very hot, very dense plasma where no atoms existed). Thus I have to point out obvious facts.
23 August 2018 Aman777: "The Big Bang of our Cosmos" murders the descendants of Adam and Eve
Which means he has to make up yet another fantasy to save them.

 

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8 questions and 24 items with fantasies, errors, lies and ignorance.

 

[Aman777]

23 August 2018 Aman777: A lie about Genesis 1:28 which gives mankind dominion or rule over every living thing that moves upon the earth.
This is animals that live on the ground, e.g. goats and cattle. Otherwise we have dominion over only fish and fowl .
Mosquitoes fly. Angels are supernatural beings like God, not "living creatures" and they fly.

Sorry, but it's probably your altered version which confuses you.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Mosquitoes moveth, Angels moveth, and prehistoric men also moved. Your idea that Angels are like God is not true for Humans (descendants of Adam) will have dominion over them when Jesus returns. Also, God doesn't sin, but 1/3 of Angels left Heaven to be like Satan. Here's the order in Heaven:

God
Jesus
Humans
Angels
Prehistoric people
Animals