God's creation Timeline refutes evolution

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The empirical evidence has been misunderstood since Human blood was mixed with the blood of prehistoric people ...

17 August 2018 Aman777: A "Human blood was mixed with the blood of prehistoric people ..." delusion?
Prehistoric people were human with human blood.
My post was:
15 August 2018 Aman777: A "sons of God (Prehistoric people) diverged from Chimps" lie (we are "cousins").
There is the irrelevant evidence of breeding of Homo sapiens with Neanderthals.

 

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Usual fantasies , mistakes and ignorant/irrelevant answers. Questions:

1. 15 August 2018 Aman777: Give the Biblical statement of the size of the firmament being only 75 miles wide.
2. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give your scientific evidence that a firmament is in Lake Van, Turkey.
   Answer: His personal unsupported fantasy because he has no evidence .
3. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give the Biblical verse stating that the Ark is in Lake Van, Turkey.
4. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give your scientific evidence that the Ark is in Lake Van, Turkey.
5. 16 August 2018 Aman777: How did a firmament 75 miles wide protect "Adam's Earth" (the same size as the Earth?).
6. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Why does Genesis 1:11 have flowering fruit trees in day 3 while you have them late in day 5?
7. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Please give the verse containing "23 Billion years ago" when God spoke from Scripture, e.g. what verse in Genesis?

16 August 2018 Aman777: A "satanic" assertion about evolution insulting the Christians who worked on evolution and trust the empirical evidence and theory of evolution.

16 August 2016 Aman777: Give the Biblical verse that states "Adam's Earth" was totally destroyed in the flood and replaced with another "earth".
What Peter wrote in a letter thousands of years later about flood waters obviously destroying the surface of the Earth is irrelevant.

16 August 2018 Aman777: The cited Genesis 1:1 makes "created air, dust and water BEFORE the first day" wrong.

16 August 2018 Aman777: A "Not according to Scripture" fantasy since the Bible does not say the first stars appeared 200 billion years after the Big Bang.

 

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BEFORE the first Day:

16 August 2018 Aman777: The cited Genesis 1:1 makes "created air, dust and water BEFORE the first day" wrong.
No air or dust or water listed as created before the first day. Pre-creation: Genesis 1:1–2
If we assume that actual " air or dust or water" were created even before stars then your imaginary timeline is even more wrong.

 

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It is based on the Scriptural Fact that Jesus made our cosmos on the 3rd Day ...

17 August 2018 Aman777: "Scriptural Fact that Jesus made our cosmos on the 3rd Day" ignorance when Genesis is clear that God created the cosmos before day 1 and ordered it on day 3.
Pre-creation: Genesis 1:1–2 and on the third day

On the third day, the waters withdraw, creating a ring of ocean surrounding a single circular continent.[57] By the end of the third day God has created a foundational environment of light, heavens, seas and earth.[58] The three levels of the cosmos are next populated in the same order in which they were created – heavens, sea, earth.

A fantasy timeline making Genesis days into lies would be Big Bang before day 1, recombination and formation of stars on day 1 (creation of CMB and starlight), formation of the Earth on day 3.

 

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I don't mean to insult anyone BUT evolution is nothing more than changes in genetics in a population over time or descent with modification within His and Their kinds.

You started a thread about evolution so you must know about evolution. That makes your statement very ignorant.
17 August 2018 Aman777: Abysmal ignorance about evolution: evolutionary mechanisms causes speciation that we have observed, no "kinds" in evolution.

That ignorance does not excuse insulting Christians working on and trusting "satanic" evolution. Evolution is a working scientific theory that explains an enormous body of evidence. That is why Christians and non-Christians work and trust evolution.

 

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Some people also bow before a graven image and some worship stumps, trees and even Cows. Amen?

Certainly not Amen to ignorance !
Catholics do not "bow before a graven image" (Do Catholics Worship Statues?). The Catholic Church are Christians, not stump, tree or cow worshipers.

My post was that you insulted Christians in most denominations. My example is that the Catholic Church does not reject evolution because they have thought rationally about evolution and concluded that there is no intrinsic conflict (Catholic Church and evolution).

 

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Sure, but there are two of them. Genesis 7:20 states that the Ark was above the mountains on Adam's Earth....AND.....resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood began. Genesis 8:4

17 August 2018 Aman777: Lies that Genesis 7:20 and Genesis 8:4 are about Lake Van, Turkey.
Mountains are not a lake!
Genesis 7:20 gives the height of the flood.
Genesis 8:4 gives a resting place of the arrk as upon the mountains of Ararat, not under or on Lake Van. A lake landing would be stupid because that would make Noah a liar because he does not mention any lake.
Mountains of Ararat are thought to be a large ancient Assyrian region that includes Lake Van and Mount Ararat. Scholars have consistently placed the ark on a mountain.

 

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Where did the Raven go since he didn't return to the Ark?

17 August 2018 Aman777: An idiotic, irrelevant raven question ansered in Genesis 8:7 which he quotes!

 

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Adam's entire universe was placed under water on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8. ...

An ignorant fantasy in reply to
16 August 2018 Aman777: How did a firmament 75 miles with protect "Adam's Earth" (the same size as the Earth?).
A fantasy that God that cannot create a firmament the size we measure (billons of light years)?
A fantasy that God created a 75 miles wide firmament and then did not astound humans by adding making it bigger to Genesis?
A fantasy that ancient people thought the world was only 75 miles wide and so God creating a firmament 75 miles wide was no big deal?

So far it looks like his personal fantasy that the universe had to be 75 miles wide to fit into his personal fantasy that the firmament is in Lake Van.

This is the real Biblical Second day

Rāqîa‘, the word translated as firmament, is from rāqa‘, the verb used for the act of beating metal into thin plates.[53] Created on the second day of creation and populated by luminaries on the fourth, it is a solid dome which separates the earth below from the heavens and their waters above, as in Egyptian and Mesopotamian belief of the same time.[54] In Genesis 1:17 the stars are set in the raqia‘; in Babylonian myth the heavens were made of various precious stones (compare Exodus 24:10 where the elders of Israel see God on the sapphire floor of heaven), with the stars engraved in their surface.[55][/QUOTE
Anyone can read that this is not our universe so the Big Bang is irrelevant.

 

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Adam's firmament was only miles wide since it fit into Lake Van, Turkey, which is only 75 miles wide.

Yet another error showing the problems with taking ignorant fantasies at their face value.
This is Lake Van which has a widest extent of "Max. length 119 km (74 mi)". That is not the size of his fantasy firmament. His fantasy firmament has to be much smaller so that it is under the waters. Maybe half the size.

 

[Aman777]

So now we have:
17 August 2018 Aman777: A "Scripture speaks of Adam's world which was totally destroyed in the flood" fantasy (Peter's letter says destroyed by water, not annihilated and replaced).
Water flooding the surface of the earth will not destroy the Earth . Peter was not that stupid.

Amen. Our Earth is covered with water but rocks don't get totally destroyed by water on our planet, which IS the 3rd Rock from the Sun. It was Adam's Earth which was "clean dissolved" Isaiah 24:19 in the flood. Now tell us what is meant by the heavens and earth "which are now" and NOT the world that "then was".

Thanks for trying. Most people run away about this time. NONE of them has been able to refute a single jot nor tittle of Genesis. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Yet another error showing the problems with taking ignorant fantasies at their face value.
This is Lake Van which has a widest extent of "Max. length 119 km (74 mi)". That is not the size of his fantasy firmament. His fantasy firmament has to be much smaller so that it is under the waters. Maybe half the size.

Not so, since I believe the bottom of the firmament is in the Northern Section of the Lake which is 8 miles or so wide. Adam's entire world was much smaller than today's world. It had only 4 Rivers, whereas Texas alone has thousands. It could have been 2, 4, or 6 miles square and could still contain the 450 ft Ark. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

17 August 2018 Aman777: A "Human blood was mixed with the blood of prehistoric people ..." delusion?
Prehistoric people were human with human blood.
My post was:
15 August 2018 Aman777: A "sons of God (Prehistoric people) diverged from Chimps" lie (we are "cousins").
There is the irrelevant evidence of breeding of Homo sapiens with Neanderthals.

Don't you get tired of losing? Can you find a single issue where you have called my views delusional and convince yourself that you have refuted me and God? Thanks for trying, but more Scriptural study is indicated. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Usual fantasies , mistakes and ignorant/irrelevant answers. Questions:

1. 15 August 2018 Aman777: Give the Biblical statement of the size of the firmament being only 75 miles wide.
2. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give your scientific evidence that a firmament is in Lake Van, Turkey.
   Answer: His personal unsupported fantasy because he has no evidence .
3. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give the Biblical verse stating that the Ark is in Lake Van, Turkey.
4. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Give your scientific evidence that the Ark is in Lake Van, Turkey.
5. 16 August 2018 Aman777: How did a firmament 75 miles wide protect "Adam's Earth" (the same size as the Earth?).
6. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Why does Genesis 1:11 have flowering fruit trees in day 3 while you have them late in day 5?
7. 16 August 2018 Aman777: Please give the verse containing "23 Billion years ago" when God spoke from Scripture, e.g. what verse in Genesis?

16 August 2018 Aman777: A "satanic" assertion about evolution insulting the Christians who worked on evolution and trust the empirical evidence and theory of evolution.

16 August 2016 Aman777: Give the Biblical verse that states "Adam's Earth" was totally destroyed in the flood and replaced with another "earth".
What Peter wrote in a letter thousands of years later about flood waters obviously destroying the surface of the Earth is irrelevant.

16 August 2018 Aman777: The cited Genesis 1:1 makes "created air, dust and water BEFORE the first day" wrong.

16 August 2018 Aman777: A "Not according to Scripture" fantasy since the Bible does not say the first stars appeared 200 billion years after the Big Bang.

Sorry, but i chose not to reply to the list you are keeping.

 

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16 August 2018 Aman777: The cited Genesis 1:1 makes "created air, dust and water BEFORE the first day" wrong.
No air or dust or water listed as created before the first day. Pre-creation: Genesis 1:1–2
If we assume that actual " air or dust or water" were created even before stars then your imaginary timeline is even more wrong.

Thanks for your unsupported and unsupportable view. Here are the verses with my comments in black.


Gen 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven (Hebrew-air) and the earth. (Hebrew-ground) Gen 1:2 And the earth (Heb-ground) was without form, (dust) and void; (Heb-empty) and darkness (Heb-death) was upon the face of the deep. (water) And the Spirit of God moved (Heb-brooded) upon the face of the waters.

With your understanding, please tell us your view. So far, you have spoken only in generalities and ad-hominems. Please be more specific. Amen?

 

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You know, it may be odd, but I actually find your ideas refreshing compared to the flat earth kookiness. At least they don't rely on denying every obvious line of evidence, including experiments you can perform in your own free time.

 

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17 August 2018 Aman777: "Scriptural Fact that Jesus made our cosmos on the 3rd Day" ignorance when Genesis is clear that God created the cosmos before day 1 and ordered it on day 3.

False, since Genesis 2:4 gives the details of the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) made the earth and the heavens,

Adam's Earth was made at the beginning of the 3rd Day according to Gen 1:9-10. Notice also that Jesus made other HeavenS (Plural) on the 3rd Day. He made the heavens and earth, which are now, and He made the 3rd Heaven of ll Corinthians 12:2 and Revelation 21:1. In the beginning only air, dust and water were created and Jesus used those elements to make other worlds. It's simple. All He had to do was make a Singularity with a White Hole, which produces many Universes. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

You started a thread about evolution so you must know about evolution. That makes your statement very ignorant.
17 August 2018 Aman777: Abysmal ignorance about evolution: evolutionary mechanisms causes speciation that we have observed, no "kinds" in evolution.

That ignorance does not excuse insulting Christians working on and trusting "satanic" evolution. Evolution is a working scientific theory that explains an enormous body of evidence. That is why Christians and non-Christians work and trust evolution.

I'm so happy you are here since you can tell us How and When mindless Nature changed prehistoric creatures into Humans (descendants of Adam). Waiting, but I won't hold my breath. Amen?

 

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Here are the verses with my comments in black.

17 August 2018 Aman777: Lies about the Hebrew in Genesis 1:1
Genesis creation narrative
"Heaven and the Earth" in Hebrew means everything., etc.

 

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Certainly not Amen to ignorance !
Catholics do not "bow before a graven image" (Do Catholics Worship Statues?). The Catholic Church are Christians, not stump, tree or cow worshipers.

My post was that you insulted Christians in most denominations. My example is that the Catholic Church does not reject evolution because they have thought rationally about evolution and concluded that there is no intrinsic conflict (Catholic Church and evolution).

In the end, the theology of those who preach another Gospel will fall away. Do you know which Gospel of Jesus Christ they preach? Is it the same as that which was preached by the first Christians?