#walkaway

[KCfromNC]

Reply="Liza B., post: 72952465, member: 402778"]I personally don't think lying about your political leanings is a great way to win people to your cause.

Seems to have generated a lot of traffic on #walkaway - assuming that there is more to it that what's being pushed by Russian bots, that is.

 

[KCfromNC]

Reminds me of Chick Tracts where someone goes from being a strawman atheist to being a born again christian in 4 panels.

Yep, seems like someone's trying to pump up the R voters for some reason. I'm guessing the RNC and friends have a worry about R turnout and this sort of thing - pretending that there's a resurgence of R voters after some pretty bad mid-term defeats - might be part of the goal.

 

[Liza B.]

Good example of the kind of right-wing spin I'm talking about. Understanding that it isn't going to be convincing to anyone outside of the Fox News echo chamber would be a chance for some personal growth. Figuring out why would get you bonus points.



Fair enough - anyone who voted R in the 1860s can continue to vote for them out of party loyalty.

Right, that's all you've got--telling me to understand WHY blacks would be Democrats, but offering no actual reasons. Uh-huh, that means you've got none other than "RACIST!" and other programs that have hindered, not helped. Such as generational welfare, which does NOT pull people out of poverty. FACT.

https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/economics/does-welfare-reduce-poverty

 

[KCfromNC]

Why should it be a gimmick? Because the economy has done so well under the Democrats? Because they have so much to offer minorities?

Hey, you're starting to get it.

Or maybe you think these things aren't true, which kinda highlight the problem here.

 

[Liza B.]

Seems to have generated a lot of traffic on #walkaway - assuming that there is more to it that what's being pushed by Russian bots, that is.

I'm not going to assume those people are lying unless I have proof. Sorry, I don't think like other people think.

 

[Liza B.]

Hey, you're starting to get it.

Or maybe you think these things aren't true, which kinda highlight the problem here.

I can't even begin to deal with this kind of misinformation. It's depth is so profound, it's like trying to convince someone grass is not actually green.

 

[KCfromNC]

You know what you should do then? You should stay with the party of slavery, the party of Jim Crow laws

Guess they'd have to use Obama's time machine to go back and vote in the 1800s and early 1900s for this to make any sense.

the party that convinced you they "switched" and that has done NOTHING with rotting urban schools and neighborhoods while you are pleased as punch, apparently, that you punked some lady online.

That seems to be working, doesn't it? Because no steps are better than small steps.

Good looking out.

Again, you're making the mistake of thinking that these sorts of Fox News echo chamber arguments have any sort of traction with the majority of people who don't choose right wing propaganda as their form of entertainment.

 

[KCfromNC]

All they have to do to continue the winning streak is convince blacks that Republicans are racists, racists, racists despite being the party of Abraham Lincoln

I doubt Lincoln has much of a chance in the 2020 primaries.

 

[Liza B.]

Hey, you're starting to get it.

Or maybe you think these things aren't true, which kinda highlight the problem here.

Here for those who are willing to learn:

Using U.S. cities with a population over 100,000 and the most recent FBI statistics on violent crime, USA Today formulated a list of the top ten most dangerous cities in America. Of these ten, eight are currently run by Democratic mayors and city councils, and two are controlled by Independents. Of the past ten mayors of each of the three most violent cities in America — Birmingham, Detroit, and St. Louis — eight have been Democrats. All told, the three most violent cities in this country have been under nearly uninterrupted Democratic control for more than half a century. With violent crime rates exceeding 1,400 incidents per 100,000 citizens in each of these cities, perhaps a change of pace is in store. Admittedly, it is difficult to identify a significant correlation using only one criteria. However, an analysis of poverty and unemployment indicates a similarly distressing pattern.

Referencing data collected by the U.S. Census Bureau, CBS News composed a list of the top ten most impoverished cities in the United States. The ubiquity of Democratic governance is heightened in this context, as nine out of the ten poorest cities are run by Democrats. Combining the past ten mayors of the three poorest cities — Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Detroit — there are twenty-three Democrats, three Socialists, two Independents, and two Republicans. In essence, the three most impoverished cities in America have seen more governance in the past 50 years by Socialists than by Republicans, and the ratio of Democratic governance to Republican governance is about 12:1. And yet, Republicans are maligned as being unsympathetic to the poor, with 55 percent of Democrats claiming to be “afraid” of Republicans, and 35
percent viewing Republicans as “immoral,” according to the Pew Research Center. Unfortunately, the trend does not stop here.

Of the ten major U.S. cities with the highest levels of unemployment, nine are run by Democrats. The Bureau of Labor Statistics identifies Detroit, Fresno, and Las Vegas as the cities with the most unemployment, listing Detroit as number one with an unemployment rate of 24.8 percent. At this point, it is important to note that Detroit is listed in the top three for prevalence of
violent crime, level of poverty, and rate of unemployment. It is also worth noting that Detroit’s last Republican mayor was Louis Miriani in 1957.

Conversely, when looking at the major U.S. cities with the lowest rates of unemployment, there is a Republican plurality, with five Republicans, four Democrats, and one Independent in office. While this may seem like a slim margin, this is five times as many Republicans as were present in the cities with the highest rate of unemployment, twice as many as were in the cities with the highest prevalence of poverty, and 100 percent more than in the nation’s most violent cities. Additionally, it is double the number of Republican mayors that should statistically be present, considering that only 27 of the nation’s 100 largest cities are run by Republicans.

https://pensivepost.com/the-unfortunate-truth-of-democratic-urban-governance-bce7c8abc2a3

 

[Liza B.]

I doubt Lincoln has much of a chance in the 2020 primaries.

That's a non-answer that means you have nothing. Honest people can see this--honest people like Lincoln.

Read the article I just posted and weep. Democrat controlled cities, crime and poverty. Inconvenient truths esp. for minorities.

 

[KCfromNC]

Right, that's all you've got--telling me to understand WHY blacks would be Democrats, but offering no actual reasons. Uh-huh, that means you've got none other than "RACIST!" and other programs that have hindered, not helped.

Please, continue to explain to minority voters why they aren't smart enough to pick candidates and that you're here to tell them why they are wrong.

 

[KCfromNC]

I can't even begin to deal with this kind of misinformation. It's depth is so profound, it's like trying to convince someone grass is not actually green.

This is the kind of thing I'd expect to read if a poster had zero facts to back up empty claims.

 

[KCfromNC]

That's a non-answer that means you have nothing. Honest people can see this--honest people like Lincoln.

And as much as they like him, he's still not going to be running for office as a republican any time soon.

Read the article I just posted and weep. Democrat controlled cities, crime and poverty. Inconvenient truths esp. for minorities.

Please keep conflating "minority" with "crime and poverty". That's sure to convince minority groups to vote republican.

 

[Liza B.]

Please, continue to explain to minority voters why they aren't smart enough to pick candidates and that you're here to tell them why they are wrong.

I'm not going to back away because of whatever that's supposed to be. They have been lied to about Republicans being racists. We're not supposed to say that because "OH you're explaining!" In reality, in my opinion, Democrats think they're not smart enough to figure out that Republicans are NOT racists and have much, much better offers. But they'd rather scare them for fear they discover the truth.

 

[Liza B.]

And as much as they like him, he's still not going to be running for office as a republican any time soon.



Please keep conflating "minority" with "crime and poverty". That's sure to convince minority groups to vote republican.

Still not scared away. I have facts on my side:

Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent.

That's almost 30% of blacks at the poverty level. How's that Democrat voting bloc working for them? See, I think they can do better, and I think we can do better for THEM.

Shame on me. I know. Shame on me.

http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/

 

[KCfromNC]

I'm not going to back away because of whatever that's supposed to be. They have been lied to about Republicans being racists. We're not supposed to say that because "OH you're explaining!" In reality, in my opinion, Democrats think they're not smart enough to figure out that Republicans are NOT racists and have much, much better offers. But they'd rather scare them for fear they discover the truth.

By all means, continue trying this approach. I think you've seen the response in this thread from actual minority voters, but don't let the facts showing how ineffective it is stop you.

 

[KCfromNC]

That's almost 30% of blacks at the poverty level. How's that Democrat voting bloc working for them?

Likely better than voting for candidates who seem to spin their base with the idea that minority = poverty and crime.

 

[Liza B.]

By all means, continue trying this approach. I think you've seen the response in this thread from actual minority voters, but don't let the facts showing how ineffective it is stop you.

Still not scared away. Facts on my side, and the one person I know on this thread only misrepresented his position, which weakened it. I'm coming with facts.

27% poverty rate. Democrat cities in shambles. Anything other than, 'You can't say that' to offer???

 

[Liza B.]

Likely better than voting for candidates who seem to spin their base with the idea that minority = poverty and crime.

It does not equal poverty and crime but their inner cities are RIDDLED with poverty and crime. *I* do not think that is acceptable. I don't know why Democrats think this is acceptable, or at any rate, have lived with it for so long. And your assertions of "You can't say that" do not scare me. You do not know how closely associated I really am to black folks and I won't tell you, but suffice to say, I'm not scared. I'm not at all scared of you telling me what I can and cannot say.

 

[SummerMadness]

Lulz, all black people are not in inner cities area, a lot of them are not in inner city areas, but it's understandable, this is the racialized term used to describe black people without saying black people. The same goes for words like urban. Most black people I know did not grow up in inner city areas, especially those in the South, but for some reason when talking about black people, the comment is "inner city", I wonder if they even know what that term means.

And it's Democratic. Democrat is a noun, you don't call them Democrat cities, you call them Democratic cities. What are they teaching in schools these days?