Top 10 Myths About Evolution

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And by their mineralogy. And by their sedimentology. And by their environment of deposition. And by their internal structures. And by their horizontal and vertical variation. And by their boundaries. And by the strata adjacent to them.
by the fossils found in them.

So fossils cannot be found outside the proper layer
becasue
the layer is identified by the fossils it contains.

If the fossils are "mixed" then it is assumed the layers have become mixed.
This is how people can claim they are never in the wrong layer.
 
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Top 10 Myths About Evolution (And How We Know It Really Happened)

This has been fun. Sorry if I missed anything.

PS I'm not a 7-day or Young Earth Creationist.
I just don't like Evo-History writers
creating bad science-fiction.
 
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I just don't like Evo-History writers creating bad science-fiction.
You also appear to not like answering questions.

Or mastering the relevant science, for that matter.
 
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You also appear to not like answering questions.

Or mastering the relevant science, for that matter.

Science is a search for knowledge, and those who experience it
know the unknown aspects of the Cosmos grow exponentially
as ones exposure increases.
 
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Sometimes. Unfortunately, some of our species have evolved to think trucks and tunas are both "intelligently designed."

No one has even improved on a biological process
so there is no one available to judge it's design.
 
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Many of these steps still exist in nature in simpler organisms.

A single cell is more complicated that we have yet fully documented.
There is nothing simple about a "simple" organism.
 
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and honest mistakes like Nebraska Man, Calaveras Man, and Hespero-pithecus, are, in time, corrected. In fact, it wasn’t creationists who exposed these errors, it was scientists who did so.

I doubt you know the religious leanings of the people involved.
Not everyone expresses their beliefs to the public. Either way
not trusting the conclusions of any scientist is the key to accuracy
and knowledge and reducing the incidence of intentional fraud
known to be prevalent.
Fraud And Misconduct Of Clinical Trials | 30850 - OMICS International
 
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Thanks to infinitely clever design, organisms can adapt very quickly without resorting to duplication error.

Super-fast evolving fish splitting into two species in same lake
If you want to talk about design—and I assume you mean “design” as a descriptor of a functional arrangement of components, rather than “design” as purpose or intention—consider this: Design is based on the processing of information. Then consider the biosphere, an unfathomably complex system of interacting stochastic processes, and you see sufficient information processing capacity to produce the functional arrangement of parts, the “design” that even Dawkins says is there. Human industry is just beginning to use genetic algorithms to design new products, but the power of the process is apparent to all. Creationists have tried to identify living systems which in principle could not have been designed by such stochastic algorithms. So far they have failed. I predict they will continue to fail, because I believe that divine tinkering with this process on a material level is unnecessary, thanks to the omniscience of its creator.
 
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You can put earth on the end of a stick over a fire
or seal it in a glass beaker.
No researcher claims that entropy decreases in closed or open systems.
Fundamental chat-room argument mistake.

2-earth-in-a-beaker-scott-camazine.jpg
There are lots of examples of entropy decreasing in nature. Life itself is the most obvious example.
 
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There are lots of examples of entropy decreasing in nature. Life itself is the most obvious example.
And how does that decrease entropy?
People burn though a lot of calories a day.
And pull tons of fuel from the earth.
 
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And how does that decrease entropy?
People burn though a lot of calories a day.
And pull tons of fuel from the earth.
Seriously? I mean seriously? Do you not understand the concept at all? If you seriously do not know how entropy is decreased in this context, I or another member will be please to inform you, but first I would appreciate confirmation that you are not just playing a silly little game.
 
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Seriously? I mean seriously? Do you not understand the concept at all? If you seriously do not know how entropy is decreased in this context, I or another member will be please to inform you, but first I would appreciate confirmation that you are not just playing a silly little game.

If life decreases entropy, then why is there only one planet
in the cosmos following the rule of nature and creating life?
 
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If life decreases entropy, then why is there only one planet
in the cosmos following the rule of nature and creating life?
How do you know there is only one?
 
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If life decreases entropy, then why is there only one planet
in the cosmos following the rule of nature and creating life?

I believe that you may be unaware that entropy is a measure of disorder ---- not of order. As a seed grows into a plant, it is becoming more ordered ---roots, stems, leafs, buds, flowers and eventually new seeds. This is a highly structured, ordered process. Order is increasing which means that entropy (disorder) is decreasing. The seed cannot do this in isolation --- it requires energy in the form of heat and nutrients to do this.

As to your question --- your premise that there is only one planet in the cosmos creating life is flawed. You don't know that with any certainty. We are finding evidence of possible life on Mars and we know now that there are plenty of planets. I strongly suspect that life in some form may be present on many of them. Given time, I believe that the universe is "programmed" to produce life.
 
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And how does that decrease entropy?
People burn though a lot of calories a day.
And pull tons of fuel from the earth.

And so do evolving fish.

The evolved lifeforms may have low entropy, but don't forget, to get there, ancestors pulled tons of high energy food and made tons of high entropy crap.
 
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Either way
not trusting the conclusions of any scientist is the key to accuracy
and knowledge

What would this world be like if we had followed your advice for the last few centuries?
 
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I doubt you know the religious leanings of the people involved.
Not everyone expresses their beliefs to the public. Either way
not trusting the conclusions of any scientist is the key to accuracy
and knowledge and reducing the incidence of intentional fraud
known to be prevalent.
Fraud And Misconduct Of Clinical Trials | 30850 - OMICS International
The most prevalent area in science I know of for the hard sciences in terms of fraud is the medical industry, because a pill that doesn't work still costs a ton of money to produce and pharmaceutical companies like to skip out on having unbiased parties repeat the experiment to confirm the results. There is a clear motivation for frauds: money.

However, in terms of the theory of evolution, there is a lot more to gain in terms of fame and fortune if a person made discoveries that challenged the theory rather than supported it. It's one of if not the biggest theory in all of biology, so presenting data that supports it is so run of the mill that unless it is really big, no one cares. For example, I've talked with creationists on here that don't even know that there are fossils relevant to the evolution of non-human apes, yet tons of people on here know about Tiktaalik. Whenever people make fake fossils for scientific reasons, they always seem to be challenging what is mainstream, not making fakes that agree with the mainstream.

I always hear people bring up old crap like Piltdown man, but the scientific community didn't even fall for that one, it was just put to the side until it could be proven to be a fake without a shadow of a doubt. Plus, if frauds are so common in the scientific community in regards to evolution, why don't people bring up examples that occurred within my lifetime? My grandma is younger than Piltdown man. Relevant frauds, mind you. People making fake fossils to sell to the gullible aren't exactly relevant to the scientific community.
 
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Our ability to trust and cooperate identifies why we are different from animals.
We are grounded in fellowship from our Creator..
My dog almost broke my heart because she trusted me. I was the one she’d go to when she need a pair of hands to retrieve her ball from underneath the stove. The one she’d call on when her ear mites got too itchy. The one who’s bed she’d ask to sleep in when my son wasn’t around. The one time she wanted me to fix what was wrong and I couldn’t was when she had the heart attack which ended her life . You have either never had a pet or you didn’t pay much attention to the thinking behavior of ones you had.
 
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