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[Ironhold]

Ever written a column decrying God turning white delightsome folks black?

I just get through talking about people changing the topic and... you try to change the topic.

Why?

 

[drstevej]

And how does your writing articles about the KKK apply to the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

 

[Ironhold]

And how does your writing articles about the KKK apply to the Mountain Meadows Massacre?

It shows I'm willing to take a stand against hate, period, and not simply asking special privileges.

 

[drstevej]

It shows I'm willing to take a stand against hate, period, and not simply asking special privileges.

Like taking a stand against God turning white people black so they are not "delightsome to God's people"?

 

[Ironhold]

Like taking a stand against God turning white people black so they are not "delightsome to God's people"?

The more you try to divert the discussion away from "Do you, so-and-so, believe that we deserve physical violence?", the more alarmed I and others become.

So, I'm going to ask you directly: Do you believe that anyone who is Mormon deserves physical violence simply for being Mormon?

 

[drstevej]

So, I'm going to ask you directly: Do you believe that anyone who is Mormon deserves physical violence simply for being Mormon?

No I do not. Never have.

 

[Ironhold]

No I do not. Never have.

Then why try to change the subject? It's as if this is something uncomfortable to talk about at the very least, when anyone who claims the mantle of Christianity should be denouncing hatred of this sort regardless of who it's against.

 

[drstevej]

Then why try to change the subject? It's as if this is something uncomfortable to talk about at the very least, when anyone who claims the mantle of Christianity should be denouncing hatred of this sort regardless of who it's against.

Incoherent.

 

[He is the way]

Like taking a stand against God turning white people black so they are not "delightsome to God's people"?

Shouldn't you, a chaplain and and a staff member, be glorifying God instead of taking a stand against God????

 

[Ironhold]

Incoherent.

Did you really just say that?

 

[Anto9us]

Taking a stand against a false view of God is admirable for anyone -- chaplain, staff member or regular member.

 

[Anto9us]

Taking a stand against violence perpetrated against Mormons is also admirable.

I can say I have never seen anyone on CF advocate violence against Mormons.

 

[drstevej]

The Mormon God is fictional. This is a debate section and Mormonism is not considered a Christian religion here. This is: Debate Other Religions & Faiths.

Any member that states or argues that Mormons are Christians, or Mormon members that claim to be Christians, may have their post(s) removed and may be subject to a staff action. If you would like to discuss this with the CF Admins or Advisors, please open a support ticket.

CF's Rules in Regards to the LDS Church

Now can return to the topic.

 

[He is the way]

Taking a stand against a false view of God is admirable for anyone -- chaplain, staff member or regular member.

It may be false to you, that does not mean it is false. I know that the Book of Mormon is true. I know that Joseph Smith could not have made it up in just 65 days while was in his early 20s.

 

[He is the way]

The Mormon God is fictional. This is a debate section and Mormonism is not considered a Christian religion here. This is: Debate Other Religions & Faiths.


CF's Rules in Regards to the LDS Church

Now can return to the topic.

There is only one God the Father and He is not fictional.

 

[drstevej]

Is there a Heavenly Mother?

Does God reside in the proximity of Kolob?

 

[He is the way]

Is there a Heavenly Mother?

Who is Eve in the image of?:
(Old Testament | Genesis 1:27)

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[drstevej]

Is Eve Heavenly Mother?

 

[He is the way]

Is Eve Heavenly Mother?

She is a daughter of God the FATHER.

 

[drstevej]

She is a daughter of God the FATHER.

Really So there are no Heavenly Parents?

3. I had learned to call thee Father,
Thru thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav'ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I've a mother there.

So your Heavenly Mother is really a daughter of Heavenly Father?

Verse 4 says

4. When I leave this frail existence,
When I lay this mortal by,
Father, Mother, may I meet you
In your royal courts on high?

If that is true I will agree with at least this section of the Hymn

the thought makes reason stare!