Man, this thread is just off the rails.
So, it is safe to say that creationism does not offer an explicit explanation for specific biological cases. That neither creationism nor ID have any chance whatsoever of supplanting evolutionary theory as the best explanation of biological diversity we have?
Case closed? Anything else relevant to add?
In your case there's nothing I can show you that you would accept as proof. You want a dog giving birth to a cat. That simply does not happen. In fact, that would prove the theory of evolution to be false if it happened. So please, don't ask me to prove anything to you. It's not possible.Prove it.
In your case there's nothing I can show you that you would accept as proof.
No... that's not why. I've tried with you before and it's not possible because you're simply intractable. You have your own ideas about what evolution means, what it should be and what you think it is and none of them are remotely correct. You're willfully ignorant in pursuit of your own belief. I'm just not going to let you be flippant and pretend that you're correct. You're not. And I'm not willing to spend time finding and presenting evidence only to have you dismiss it out of hand.I know, and there is a reason for that, you haven't any. And you are correct, "it's not possible".
And I should be clear. Science doesn't "prove" anything.
We offer evidence for things. We continue to offer evidence for things until there's basically no doubt of those things. But, there's always the chance that something could come along...
Yes, that post was my first attempt to straighten you out when you tried to misrepresent what I meant when I said I was not "convinced" of the truth of evolution. And yes, the scare quotes are in the original because no sensible person, no person who knows anything about science, is ever "convinced" that evolution is the "truth." The theory of evolution is not absolute truth; it's a scientific theory, accepted provisionally just like all scientific theories.Wrong post
No... that's not why. I've tried with you before and it's not possible because you're simply intractable. You have your own ideas about what evolution means, what it should be and what you think it is and none of them are remotely correct. You're willfully ignorant in pursuit of your own belief. I'm just not going to let you be flippant and pretend that you're correct. You're not. And I'm not willing to spend time finding and presenting evidence only to have you dismiss it out of hand.
Yes, that post was my first attempt to straighten you out when you tried to misrepresent what I meant when I said I was not "convinced" of the truth of evolution. And yes, the scare quotes are in the original because no sensible person, no person who knows anything about science, is ever "convinced" that evolution is the "truth." The theory of evolution is not absolute truth; it's a scientific theory, accepted provisionally just like all scientific theories.
For what? Your attempt to twist what I had to say has failed.
You mean besides calling it a " made up lie"?
Yes, since we have already determined you claim it true, but cannot can't prove it, hence my view it's a lie, what else, specifically, am I incorrect about when it comes to evolution?
Go for it.You all are so predictable. Seems to me if it was a problem with me, you'd be happy to post it as proof, but instead you avoid it. Now, of course I have to wonder if it doesn't show something you said to be untruthful.
If I get time, I'll find it myself.
You mean this one?You all are so predictable. Seems to me if it was a problem with me, you'd be happy to post it as proof, but instead you avoid it. Now, of course I have to wonder if it doesn't show something you said to be untruthful.
If I get time, I'll find it myself.
Your response was,I'm not "convinced" I take the theory of evolution in the same way as any other scientific theory--as the best scientific explanation of a phenomenon currently available, but provisional, like any other scientific theory. Evolution, as such, is a "fact." There is no doubt that species have changed and diversified over time. They still do. The theory of evolution is an attempt to explain how that happens. Being a scientific theory it is still provisional, but no more satisfactory explanation has yet been advanced.
To which I answered,Thanks for telling me that, I misunderstood, if you are undecided, then you have no solid stance/reason to debate this, the reason I won't reply to your other comments.
Seriously, why debate an issue that you don't even know is an issue or not?
So what is it, exactly, that I am supposed to be "undecided" about?What makes you think I am "undecided?" I accept the theory of evolution as a plausible and well-evidenced explanation for the diversity of life. I accept it with the provisionality which is built into all scientific theories. I am not "convinced" of its "truth" because in the end it may prove to be wrong, just like any other scientific theory.