Interesting

[anna ~ grace]

I witnessed something weird the other day. Just wanted to let you guys know.

Some folks have claimed that a number of (but not all) supposedly racist non-violent events that garner huge amounts of media attention are, in fact, staged. I got this impression with the Starbuck's incident. If an African-American is behaving oddly, rudely, unprofessionally, or illegally (yet not violently), a white person can not say anything to them or make any demands on their behavior, lest they be called racist.

The other day in my place of work, a group of five or six African-American women came in, and they were LOUD. Not like normal loud, or jovial, but so loud that everyone in our large store could hear them. Screaming. At eachother and in general, unnecessarily. The whole time. Other customers looked visibly uncomfortable, and shot me nervous, concerned "can't you do anything?" looks. I asked a manager what we could do, and let me know that all we could do was provide excellent customer service. Ok. So I went up to them (they were shopping, not loitering) and just let them know that if they needed anything, to please let me know. They got up in my face jeering and laughing then walked away mocking me. Still incredibly loud. Had I politely asked them to lower their volume, I have *no doubt* that it would have spiraled downwards into a charged, racial incident. Something about the whole encounter felt like a set up.

 

[SummerMadness]

It was a setup, we are legion. *Kefka laugh*

 

[Kenny'sID]

Yes, very interesting and good point.

 

[Kenny'sID]

It was a setup,

Sounded more like a bunch of genuinely rude people to me.

 

[*LILAC]

Some people are just rude and will do anything for attention, no matter what the race.

 

[anna ~ grace]

Sounded more like a bunch of genuinely rude people to me.

I don't know. We get loud customers. But they're usually momentarily loud and generally don't literally scream the entire time they're in the store. Nor do they visibly mock and taunt staff.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I don't know. We get loud customers. But they're usually momentarily and generally don't literally scream the entire time they're in the store. Nor do they visibly mock and taunt staff.

If I may be so bold, we've all seen it, they have bad attitudes and are inviting or even asking for trouble.

Ant BTW, you handled it very well.

 

[SummerMadness]

Sounded more like a bunch of genuinely rude people to me.

No, you're wrong. We have Black Lives Matter meetings about once month. During those meetings we implore black people to go about their business, follow the law, but just do it around white people. We want them to become uncomfortable, so we do things like go to a store, shop for the prom, move stuff into our homes, fall asleep after studying at night, barbecue with our family, etc. And by the looks of things, it's working!

We have another branch called Black Lives Matter Latino where we primarily focus on getting Hispanics to speak Spanish in front of white people. We're looking to expand to Black Lives Matter Indigenous because we know that Native Americans being mistreated is on account of Native Americans trying to get themselves mistreated.

Every year we have an annual convention in the skull of the Statue of Liberty. Oprah is there, Obama, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, the Wu Tang Klan, and Byron Allen. This year's honoree will likely be Donald Glover whose accomplishment's include making white people mad because he thought it would fun to retweet someone saying he should play Spider-Man.

 

[SummerMadness]

I don't know. We get loud customers. But they're usually momentarily loud and generally don't literally scream the entire time they're in the store. Nor do they visibly mock and taunt staff.

Oh my word, other customers are loud, but black loudness is so much more uncomfortable.

 

[Kenny'sID]

No, you're wrong. We have Black Lives Matter meetings about once month. During those meetings we implore black people to go about their business, follow the law, but just do it around white people. We want them to become uncomfortable, so we do things like go to a store, shop for the prom, move stuff into our homes, fall asleep after studying at night, barbecue with our family, etc. And by the looks of things, it's working!

We have another branch called Black Lives Matter Latino where we primarily focus on getting Hispanics to speak Spanish in front of white people. We're looking to expand to Black Lives Matter Indigenous because we know that Native Americans being mistreated is on account of Native Americans trying to have themselves mistreated.

Every year we have an annual convention in the skull of the Statue of Liberty. Oprah is there, Obama, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, the Wu Tang Klan, and Byron Allen. This year's honoree will likely be Donald Glover whose accomplishment's include making white people mad because he thought it would fun to retweet someone saying he should play Spider-Man.

How does one word of what you said back your statement that I am "wrong" about them being rude?

 

[SummerMadness]

How does one word of what you said back your statement that I am "wrong" about them being rude?

You said we just wanted attention, that's not what we're doing. We're creating scenarios to make white people uncomfortable so they can call the police. That is not simply looking for attention, we have a larger plan that you're ignoring.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Oh my word, other customers are loud, but black loudness is so much more uncomfortable.

You have to read the whole post, and actually try to understated what is being said instead of pulling only part of the comments out, so you can use them way way out of context.

You have no leg to sand on here...rude people are rude people.

 

[anna ~ grace]

Oh my word, other customers are loud, but black loudness is so much more uncomfortable.

So, this is exactly what I'm referring to. An immediate implication of racism if an African-American is made requests of with regard to generally irritating, loud, disruptive, or rude behavior. Screaming at the top of your lungs for half an hour (at people only a few feet away from you at any given time) is pretty unique, and is exactly what you'd do if your goal was to draw attention, and get a response.

 

[Kenny'sID]

You said we just wanted attention, that's not what we're doing. We're creating scenarios to make white people uncomfortable so they can call the police. That is not simply looking for attention, we have a larger plan that you're ignoring.

I said what?

Stop, you are so angry now that you are getting confused/making little sense, and that's only going to end in embarrassment for you. Just honest and what I think is good advice, nothing more.

 

[SummerMadness]

You have to read the whole post, and actually try to understated what is being said instead of pulling only part of the comments out, so you can use them way way out of context.

You have no leg to sand on here...rude people are rude people.

We're not being rude, we are trying to get white people to call the police on us. While the police were not called in this case, the feeling of discomfort is victory enough. We'll discuss how we can modify our behavior so that the police will be called.

 

[SummerMadness]

So, this is exactly what I'm referring to. An immediate implication of racism if an African-American is made requests of with regard to generally irritating, loud, disruptive, or rude behavior. Screaming at the top of your lungs for half an hour (at people only a few feet away from you at any given time) is pretty unique, and is exactly what you'd do if your goal was to draw attention, and get a response.

We were setting you up, that's why we're doing it!

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I never have these thing happen to me. Black people tend to be decent people. So I really don't know what to say.

 

[Dave-W]

You said we just wanted attention,

No, he said THEY (that particular group of people) wanted attention. There was no "we" in there at all.

 

[Hammster]

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[HereIStand]

This sounds like disturbing the peace. Record the incident and call the police next time.