Deep devotion to Donald does not make a person a Christian.

[dreadnought]

Read them. They are full of lies (lying is a sin) character assassination (calumny is a sin) and boasts (pride leads to many sins).

Jesus asks his people to avoid becoming part of the world. It's no good for church leaders to advise their people to vote this way or that in a worldly political fight.

Donald is simply defending himself from the constant illegitimate attacks by the mainstream media. There is no sin in that.

 

[JustRachel]

My Bible tells me to be subject to the governing authorities. It doesn't mention party lines or anything else to that effect. As long as our leaders don't go against God's word, this is what I believe is expected of us. I pray for them all often.

 

[Go Braves]

People who say that also applied it to Barack and all previous presidents. That is to say that they consider it a Biblical principle to respect lawful secular authority.

Well, sure some said that. I grew up in a rural area of Georgia where folks hated Obama on sight. Called him the worst word you can think of when referring to a black person instead of by his name. Said "that black man has got no business in the White House." Made jokes like "Obama's too high strung. Nah, the real problem is that he's not strung up high enough." In looking around past threads on here lots of folks called him the antichrist.

This fellow makes a good point:
Bishop Talbert Swan on Twitter

 

[Invalidusername]

I've never heard anyone say that their support of Donald makes them a Christian. I am confused.

 

[dreadnought]

I've never heard anyone say that their support of Donald makes them a Christian. I am confused.

I've never heard anyone say that either. I think Donald is a good man, though.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I've never heard anyone say that either. I think Donald is a good man, though.

Good but, a sinner like the rest of us.

But, too many are only interested in pointing out Trump's sins without being concerned about their own. They come on so holy regarding being against Trump.

M-Bob

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty - come on people, Donald isn't one of the twelve apostles or something.

Strawman, it is a Christian duty to support life, to be pro-life in a death culture. Need I go on? Probably not.

 

[section9+1]

It's not a big deal if not everyone likes Trump. You can't expect everyone to like him and you just have to let it ride. But to say his supporters are not Christian is pure garbage. You do not get that kind of authority.

 

[dreadnought]

Good but, a sinner like the rest of us.

But, too many are only interested in pointing out Trump's sins without being concerned about their own. They come on so holy regarding being against Trump.

M-Bob

Yes, they do come on holy, as if they've never sinned themselves.

 

[dreadnought]

It's not a big deal if not everyone likes Trump. You can't expect everyone to like him and you just have to let it ride. But to say his supporters are not Christian is pure garbage. You do not get that kind of authority.

Amen.

 

[TuxAme]

I take issue with people who seem to practically worship Trump. I also take issue with people who think that Trump isn't without sin, but their particular candidate is/was, and that it makes more sense to vote for people who are openly hostile to our faith than someone who at least tolerates it.

 

[dreadnought]

I take issue with people who seem to practically worship Trump. I also take issue with people who think that Trump isn't without sin, but their particular candidate is/was, and that it makes more sense to vote for people who are openly hostile to our faith than someone who at least tolerates it.

We've all sinned. The trick is to find the politicians who have repented of their sin, it seems to me.

 

[GingerBeer]

Donald is simply defending himself from the constant illegitimate attacks by the mainstream media. There is no sin in that.

That excuse does not make sins okay, you know that right?

 

[Invalidusername]

That excuse does not make sins okay, you know that right?

I'm sure you were eager to point out all of Obama's sins. Lmao you didn't. You probably forgave Obama of every single thing.

Meanwhile you criticize Trump for every single little thing. Shame!

 

[GingerBeer]

Strawman, it is a Christian duty to support life, to be pro-life in a death culture. Need I go on? Probably not.

So, following your line of reasoning, it is a Christian's duty to support war with north Korea, trade war with China, wall building to keep Mexicans out, and I guess in the past supporting General Franco in Spain because he was "pro life" and fully supported the Catholic Church! Somehow I can't find the goodness in your advocacy. Donald Trump's program is still promulgated in sin and is still fundamentally wicked. But the point of this thread is to see what the scriptures say about a Christian's proper attitude to political authority gone bad. Donald is just an example of politics gone wrong. He's not the epitome of it, just a bit player in the wickedness of political corruption.

 

[GingerBeer]

I'm sure you were eager to point out all of Obama's sins. Lmao you didn't. You probably forgave Obama of every single thing.

Meanwhile you criticize Trump for every single little thing. Shame!

I wasn't here in CF when Barack Obama was president.

 

[Invalidusername]

I wasn't here in CF when Barack Obama was president.

You seem to think Trump is evil when he is actually a very normal person who led a very secular life rife with immorality. However he has shown that he will support Israel, pro-life, Christians, our country, and etc. Those are important attributes. Of course I wish he was God-fearing and a prime Christian but that's not how it works.

You don't vote for perfection. You vote for those who will lead this nation in God's direction.

 

[Go Braves]

I don't think we ought to have a devotion to any politician but especially not to Trump.

 

[dreadnought]

That excuse does not make sins okay, you know that right?

But then we've all sinned. What makes his any different than ours?

 

[dreadnought]

I don't think we ought to have a devotion to any politician but especially not to Trump.

Donald is a good fellow, but we shouldn't have a devotion to him.