SALVATION offered by Jesus: COMPLETED and IRREVOCABLE

[FreeGrace2]

There are things from scripture that support what I believe in, but this thread is long and drawn out enough as it is!

Sure. Just more excuses and dodging. I thought you had to get to your devotions. Or was that just another dodge too?

 

[FreeGrace2]

You would have to read my doctrinal statement to see how it all works out in my mind. Again it is Freedom from Sin: Overcominv the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version): in the hamartiology section of general theology on these boards.

I'm having much more fun reading Scripture every day.

How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?

 

[justbyfaith]

I asked this:
"Gee, how unclear. So please explain the verse and show how there is ANY contradiction with my view. If you're able."

Yeah, sure. The go to answer when one doesn't have an answer. Not now; maybe later.

I'm not going to hold my breath.


Sure. Excuses.

Give me a dissertation of what you believe in in the next day, even though you may have other things to do. If you don't, you're just making excuses!

 

[justbyfaith]

I'm having much more fun reading Scripture every day.

How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?

52.

 

[justbyfaith]

Sure. Just more excuses and dodging. I thought you had to get to your devotions. Or was that just another dodge too?

I still want to finish up here. But I also have a church meeting to go to tonight.

 

[justbyfaith]

I'm having much more fun reading Scripture every day.

How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?

Go ahead and don't read it. It's obvious you don't want to understand where I'm coming from.

 

[FreeGrace2]

You would have to read my doctrinal statement to see how it all works out in my mind. Again it is Freedom from Sin: Overcominv the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version): in the hamartiology section of general theology on these boards.

OK, went there. The OP comes from one Victor Jedidiah, and is a mess, to be frank.

He claims sinless perfection for the believer, then contradicts that claim with a statement that includes "as long as...". But one cannot have it both ways. So his claims are contradictory.

The words "wet pain principle" was never defined or described. So it seems he wasn't too concerned about communicating.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Give me a dissertation of what you believe in in the next day, even though you may have other things to do. If you don't, you're just making excuses!

I see. More excuses.

 

[FreeGrace2]

I asked this:
"How many times in a year do you read through all the epistles?"

52.

Are you claiming you read through Romans - Revelation every week? Remember, I said READ THROUGH. That means every verse in every epistle.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Go ahead and don't read it. It's obvious you don't want to understand where I'm coming from.

You got that wrong. I do understand where you're coming from and I strongly reject it.

 

[BNR32FAN]

As I said, every time one comes to "save" in the Bible, the question that must be asked is: saved...from what?

The term saved by itself without any other reference to refer to is referring to salvation. Anyone who knows the scriptures knows this. Including you.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Go ahead and don't read it. It's obvious you don't want to understand where I'm coming from.

btw, who is Victor Jedidiah and how come an internet search comes up with nothing?

 

[FreeGrace2]

The term saved by itself without any other reference to refer to is referring to salvation. Anyone who knows the scriptures knows this. Including you.

This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.

 

[BNR32FAN]

This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.

Examples please?

 

[EmSw]

Your qustions are stupid. They do not earn a reply.

This is what I said that your "reply" is in response to:
"Why would anyone think either of our natures is physical? Your questions do reveal a serious lack understanding either the sinful nature or the new nature.

What is your view regarding each nature?"

I already noted that neither of our 2 natures were physical, so you come back with the ridiculous cardboard thing.

But what I did learn from your "response" is that you have no clue about either nature, or the conflict between them.

Calm down; put your spit balls away. I wanted to see where you stood.

Each nature resides in an immaterial part of our being. The sin nature is in our soul, and the new nature is in our human spirit, which is what Jesus was referring to when He told the woman at the well that in order to worship God one must worship in "spirit and in truth". iow, one must be born again AND worship according to God's requirements.

Since you've used soul and spirit, what is the heart and mind?

I also doubt that you even understand what the Lord meant when He told Adam and the woman about the forbidden fruit; that in the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die.

What we know is that Adam lived over 900 years after that. So, something did die that day, or the Lord was simply wrong. And I won't ever accept that nonsense.

I believe what died was Adam's human spirit, which resulted in his inability to properly worship God, which is why he hid.

So sinners today don't have the ability to properly worship God; this is their death, right? Is that your understanding? So sinners do not have to fear much; most don't want to worship God anyway.

So, what specifically is born again, or regenerated? The human spirit, of course.

So, the new nature resides in the immaterial human spirit.

There. Now you know more than you did. But I suspect all this deeper doctrine may be giving you a headache, so I'll stop there. Don't want to overload your circuits.

Now what do you mean by regenerated? Is regeneration the reason the spirit doesn't sin? Those who are regenerated have the ability to properly worship God, right?

 

[EmSw]

This is just another huge assumption that being "cut off" means removing salvation. But this opinion cannot be supported from Scripture, so it remains just an assumption. Maybe even just a presumption.

Do you not know that being cut from God, is being cut off from the source of life?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Do you not know that being cut from God, is being cut off from the source of life?

According to this guy it’s impossible to not be saved. If satan himself were human he would be saved.

 

[EmSw]

It seems the clear words of Scripture don't mean much to some. The word "everlasting" says it all. But one is free to deny reality if they want to.

It appears you think without you, life isn't eternal. Life is eternal whether you partake of it or not. Lose salvation, and life is still eternal. Anyone can do whatever they want, and life is still eternal. Just because you aren't part of it, doesn't mean life isn't eternal.

 

[EmSw]

According to this guy it’s impossible to not be saved. If satan himself were human he would be saved.

All you must do is believe, which didn't get the devils very far in being saved.

 

[EmSw]

This shows an incredible naivety. More than half of the uses of the word refers to temporal dangers as what's being saved from.

It's this kind of carelessness (failure to rightly divide) that gets people in trouble when reading the Bible.

Are you the only one who understands and isn't naive? Is everybody careless but you? Are you the only who can rightly divide the word?