How to Become a Prof. of Theology? (Moved from Deeper Fellowship)

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Hello, all. To spare the many details, I feel called by God to become a college professor of Theology. However, my college doesn't offer Theology, and I couldn't find any Catholic universities that offer nearly the financial aid I need. (Please, don't let this thread turn into a Catholic/Protestant debate; just suffice it to say that I want a Catholic theology degree, and I'm looking for guidance). I'm currently a freshman Psychology major, and plan on taking that to a Master's in Theology, to become a professor.
Is there anybody out there who is/knows a Professor of Theology, or knows enough about it to help me out here?
And, of course, prayers are always appreciated.
 

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First, I'd like to start by saying I think it's outstanding that you'd like to get a Masters in Theology. It sounds like you're heading in a great direction in life.

Second, I'd like to say while you may get answers here to your question it may not hurt to ask in the One Bread, One Body forum for Catholics.

Here is the link : One Bread, One Body - Catholic

Otherwise, I don't have much to help with your original question, but I'd think that there would be some sort of scholarship program out there through the church? I'd also ask your priest. He might be able to give some insight as well.
 
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Hello, all. To spare the many details, I feel called by God to become a college professor of Theology. However, my college doesn't offer Theology, and I couldn't find any Catholic universities that offer nearly the financial aid I need. (Please, don't let this thread turn into a Catholic/Protestant debate; just suffice it to say that I want a Catholic theology degree, and I'm looking for guidance). I'm currently a freshman Psychology major, and plan on taking that to a Master's in Theology, to become a professor.
Is there anybody out there who is/knows a Professor of Theology, or knows enough about it to help me out here?
And, of course, prayers are always appreciated.
How wonderful! I'm not a theology professor, but I'm a college professor in a different field, so maybe I can offer a little help.

If you want to be a college Theology professor, your educational goal should be to earn a PhD, as that's the standard requirement for teaching at most 4-year colleges. There are a number of fine Catholic universities in the country that can offer you a PhD program. A quick Internet look tells me that at least some Catholic universities offer some kind of financial assistance to their grad students. Marquette describes some financial aid here Graduate Programs | Theology Department | Marquette University, and Villanova describes aid here Financing Your Education, for example. A common option for grad students is teaching assistantships, in which you grade papers and possibly give lectures, in exchange for tuition remission and a stipend; see if you can find assistantships at any of the universities that interest you. These opportunities may be competitive, so try to build your best possible resume in your undergraduate years -- high GPA, good volunteer opportunities and internships, that kind of thing.

I don't know what to recommend for your education right now. It's hard to commit to a long-term theology program if you've never had an opportunity to take a theology class. Does your college offer any kind of religion classes at all? Or, is it in a cooperative system with some other area colleges that would let you take a religion or theology class at a nearby school, to make sure this is a field you enjoy? Or, if that's not possible, is there a college near your hometown that would let you take a religion class during your summer break when you're at home?

I wish you all the best. I think Theology is a fascinating field, and Catholic theology contains a great deal of depth and wisdom.
 
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Hello, all. To spare the many details, I feel called by God to become a college professor of Theology. However, my college doesn't offer Theology, and I couldn't find any Catholic universities that offer nearly the financial aid I need. (Please, don't let this thread turn into a Catholic/Protestant debate; just suffice it to say that I want a Catholic theology degree, and I'm looking for guidance). I'm currently a freshman Psychology major, and plan on taking that to a Master's in Theology, to become a professor.
Is there anybody out there who is/knows a Professor of Theology, or knows enough about it to help me out here?
And, of course, prayers are always appreciated.
Keep in mind that there is a difference between a Theology department and a Religion department. A Theology department is in service to the Church, almost always affiliated with a seminary. A Religion department is a much lesser thing. Aspire to the greater. Go ahead and get a Psychology degree wherever you are at. Take whatever decent theology or religion courses might be offered. Beware that many of them will be a waste of time, such as 'Underwater Basket Weaving from a Buddhist Perspective' or 'Prospects for a Homosexual Revolution Within Christianity'. Take good history and philosophy courses as well. Take anything about the Church Fathers. And languages, learn whatever you can of Koine Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Latin. Learn a modern language or three. Maybe Italian, French, Spanish, Arabic, German. Maybe more than one modern language. Get yourself a good guide to help you steer through what is offered at your college. If it's not much, that's OK. You have time for the good stuff in Graduate School and as a post doctoral fellow.

If it were me, doing this for myself, I would look at one of the Pontifical schools. Depending on where, there might be financial aid or there might be a place in another country at lesser cost. If you have the language preparation, you could take classes overseas.

We need good and faithful theologians. The way to do theology is on your knees. Anybody can do academic theology in a faithless way. But to do it faithfully, we need more theologians who know how to research and to pray. Look to some great theologians as models. Avery Dulles, Hans Urs von Balthasar, Joseph Ratzinger, N.T. Wright, Deitrich von Hildebrand and his wife Alice.
 
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I think you will suffer, if not find it impossible, finding a job as a professor with only a Masters.
I agree. But then a masters degree opens up access to a doctoral program somewhere else. And then there is a postdoctoral thingie maybe and only then a professorship. It's a long road.
 
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Alex: "Is there anybody out there who is/knows a Professor of Theology, or knows enough about it to help me out here?"

I am a retired United Methodist pastor who was a Theology professor at a Catholic University for 12 years. It is doubtful that you will achieve your goal without a PhD at a major university, seminary, or divinity school. But that means you will need to study modern languages (German and another modern language like French, depending on your specialization). I would also advise to major in Classics and therefore that you take courses in Greek and Latin. Knowledge of Greco-Roman languages and culture will be essential for your need to grasp the cultural background of Catholic history and theology. If you are a typical freshman with such an ambition, you are probably unclear about which theological discipline you want to choose as your specialty. If Scripture or early church history is a live option, then I would also recommend a course in Hebrew, not only so that you can read the Bible in the original languages, but, just as importantly, so that you can understand advanced theological books that will assume some expertise in these ancient languages. As a doctoral student, you need to develop your critical thinking skills and it would therefore be desirable for you to take a Philosophy course in Critical Thinking or Logic.

Alex: "I feel called by God to become a college professor of Theology. However, my college doesn't offer Theology, and I couldn't find any Catholic universities that offer nearly the financial aid I need."

Your financial needs may mean that you need to get your MDiv or ThM at a secular or non-Catholic university or seminary like Princeton, Harvard, Duke, or Perkins at Emory, where you might have a greater chance of obtaining financial aid. A few years ago, I wrote a recommendation for a local janitor, who was applying to one of my Alma Maters, Princeton Seminary, and he received about $80,000 in financial aid. I obtained my doctorate from Harvard Divinity School, where my fellow grad students included several Catholics who wanted to become Theology professors at Catholic universities. Depending on your field of specialization within the Theology disciplines, you may actually have a better chance of getting job as a Theology professor at a Catholic university if you get a PhD from a good secular or non-Catholic university than would if you got your PhD from a Catholic university!

That said, I'd advise you to ask your priest to recommend a Catholic professor to consult about these issues, especially when you gain clarity about which specialization you plan to choose within the broad field of Theology.
 
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Wow, this has been a lot of great responses in less than 3 hours. Thank you all. There are several philosophy & ethics classes, and a couple about religion. The Christian Campus House here is very prominent (known as "His House" at most universities; I guess Trine's special), I'll definitely be talking to people there more about it. I have a very strong base in French, and language learning is something that comes easily to me, and is quite a bit of fun. I'm about to start learning Ancient Greek, and I'm sure Latin would help, too.
You've all given me a lot of great help & things to think about, thank you.
 
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I'm about to start learning Ancient Greek, and I'm sure Latin would help, too.

Stick with Biblical languages for now; Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew. Those are infinitely more important than Latin which, as a Professor, will have very little relevance.
 
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Stick with Biblical languages for now; Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew. Those are infinitely more important than Latin which, as a Professor, will have very little relevance.
Our resident Catholics can correct me if I'm wrong, but for a career in Catholic theology, I expect that it's going to be important to read St Thomas Aquinas and other major writers in their original Latin. It will probably also be important to understand the Latin liturgy that was in use in the church for many centuries.
 
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Our resident Catholics can correct me if I'm wrong, but for a career in Catholic theology, I expect that it's going to be important to read St Thomas Aquinas and other major writers in their original Latin. It will probably also be important to understand the Latin liturgy that was in use in the church for many centuries.
Thomas Aquinas would be very important, of course, and to understand him in Latin would be best. His works are translated, but I do think knowing Latin well would still be a benefit. Knowing Latin makes Ambrose and Augustine, Peter Lombard and Anselm, Bonaventure and even Luther accessible. Yes, Luther wrote much of his works in Latin. Latin is an important theological language. We tend to think the whole world of theology ought to revolve around the English language, but English is a minor theological language still. Do learn Latin. Hint: Latin and Greek have many similarities so studying them together makes some sense.
 
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Our resident Catholics can correct me if I'm wrong, but for a career in Catholic theology, I expect that it's going to be important to read St Thomas Aquinas and other major writers in their original Latin. It will probably also be important to understand the Latin liturgy that was in use in the church for many centuries.

The amount of Latin versus the other languages will be minimal.

Ultimately being able to read, translate and communicate scripture from the original languages is infinitely more important than the same ability regarding people talking about scripture.

Most doctoral programs will expect another language to a certain extent, but the Biblical languages will be a feature of at least Masters-level study as well as undergraduate if choosing a decent program. So it's best to start with those languages because Latin will only really be relevant at doctoral level and to a much lesser extent than the Biblical languages.

Remember, a professor of theology is going to be spending far more time teaching about scripture from source materials than he is teaching what others said about it.
 
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Your financial needs may mean that you need to get your MDiv or ThM at a secular or non-Catholic university or seminary like Princeton, Harvard, Duke, or Perkins at Emory, where you might have a greater chance of obtaining financial aid. A few years ago, I wrote a recommendation for a local janitor, who was applying to one of my Alma Maters, Princeton Seminary, and he received about $80,000 in financial aid. I obtained my doctorate from Harvard Divinity School, where my fellow grad students included several Catholics who wanted to become Theology professors at Catholic universities. Depending on your field of specialization within the Theology disciplines, you may actually have a better chance of getting job as a Theology professor at a Catholic university if you get a PhD from a good secular or non-Catholic university than would if you got your PhD from a Catholic university!
I wonder about this. I think I agree about the financial aid part, but I wonder about the faithfulness of many schools in the past few years, whether they have not gone all 'politically correct'. I look at the odd things that go on at Georgetown for example, and wonder if Princeton, for example, would not be just as odd. A generation ago I would have agreed with you that a degree from Princeton could be advantageous to one doing Catholic theology, maybe better than from Georgetown. Now, I wouldn't touch a graduate of the Georgetown theology program with a ten foot pole. Maybe I'm not being fair. Maybe the theology department at Georgetown is not as odd as the rest of the campus. Maybe there still are enough faithful scholars there where one can get a great theological education. But I'm skeptical. And maybe the same trends that have made Georgetown so odd have not made inroads at Princeton, so it is possible to get a faithful theological education there. And by faithful I do not mean a cocooned Catholic education, but one that could generate faithful Catholics and Orthodox and evangelicals with some rigor. I know there is a Catholic Renaissance at Princeton ( A Catholic Renaissance at Princeton ) but I'm not sure how far that reaches into the theology department. It probably reaches farther in than at Georgetown, which has expressed outright hostility to normative Catholic teaching in the last decades. So I hope you are right. I would be cautious. It may come down to what really strong faculty are where. But I guess that is always the case.
 
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Remember, a professor of theology is going to be spending far more time teaching about scripture from source materials than he is teaching what others said about it.
Perhaps it depends on the curriculum in the school where the professor teaches.

In my undergraduate coursework at Wheaton College, courses with names like "Old Testament Survey" or "Romans" were indeed focused on reading and interpreting the Scriptures themselves. On the other hand, courses with the word "theology" in the title ("Christian Theology", "Neo-Orthodox Theology", etc.) focused on the writings of theologians rather than the Scriptures themselves. Our professors in those courses spent class time talking about the Church Fathers, the Medieval theologians, the Reformers, and the modern theologians, and those were the writings we read.

Wheaton had a more Protestant emphasis than our OP is looking for -- I assume he wants less of Luther and Calvin, more of Thomas Aquinas and the Western Fathers -- but I think that a theology professor at a Catholic school will be teaching classes that are otherwise similar to what I saw at Wheaton.
 
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Wheaton had a more Protestant emphasis than our OP is looking for -- I assume he wants less of Luther and Calvin, more of Thomas Aquinas and the Western Fathers -- but I think that a theology professor at a Catholic school will be teaching classes that are otherwise similar to what I saw at Wheaton.
I think so.

Vatican II had a few things to say about the training of priests, and being a theology professor, one would be, among other things, training priests. So you can't teach what you don't know.

From Dei Verbum, about the need to be soaked in Scripture:
24. Sacred theology rests on the written word of God, together with sacred tradition, as its primary and perpetual foundation. By scrutinizing in the light of faith all truth stored up in the mystery of Christ, theology is most powerfully strengthened and constantly rejuvenated by that word. For the Sacred Scriptures contain the word of God and since they are inspired, really are the word of God; and so the study of the sacred page is, as it were, the soul of sacred theology.
As the soul of sacred theology, the Bible is obviously key. One would expect a professor of theology, even a professor of moral theology for example, to be deeply Biblically literate, presumably knowing well at least Koine Greek, if not Hebrew and Aramaic. A professor of theology focused on Scripture would also maybe be an expert on other ancient languages like Ugaritic. But no way around it that one would have to master Koine Greek. That's my opinion, but the council itself calls for Scripture at the core of theology, and I don't see how one can be expert in Scripture and not know the languages.

From Optatum Totius, about the training of priests:
13. Before beginning specifically ecclesiastical subjects, seminarians should be equipped with that humanistic and scientific training which young men in their own countries are wont to have as a foundation for higher studies. Moreover they are to acquire a knowledge of Latin which will enable them to understand and make use of the sources of so many sciences and of the documents of the Church. The study of the liturgical language proper to each rite should be considered necessary; a suitable knowledge of the languages of the Bible and of Tradition should be greatly encouraged.
Here it's clear that Latin will be important for someone doing Catholic theology. Maybe not for a Protestant, but indeed for a Catholic. One of my books is by Bernard Lonergan, a textbook of his that he used while teaching in Rome. It's entirely Latin. In that way he could teach to more than just Americans, Canadians, British, Australians, and New Zealanders. Latin was, and to a considerable degree still is the language for Catholic theology. Someone who plans to be a professor of Catholic theology needs to know Latin.

As I mentioned before, Latin and Greek have some similarities, enough that leaning them both at the same time is a good idea. Someone else mentioned that it would be beneficial to study Classics, that is Greek and Roman literature. I agree. A Classics department minor might be the way to go as an undergraduate.

As to which language is more important, I'm presuming that it does not boil down to ONE language. Several will be key. Greek for sure. Latin for sure. Probably Hebrew and/or Aramaic. Maybe other ancient languages. Probably a major modern European language or two. I'd go with Italian, but German and Spanish and French could be valuable too. It depends on where you want to go to study. You definitely should get out of the country for that at some point for a few years if at all you can. And that's where I mentioned the Pontifical institutions. A diversity of institutions, one for Masters, another for doctorate, another for post-doc, provided they all are of good reputation, will assist you on your path. It's an arduous path. But even if you bail out part way, you have learned some very good stuff. Just get wise counsel along the way to plan your way.
 
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What language is most important depends entirely on your area of specialty.

Old Testament - Hebrew and German (much of the best modern scholarship is published in German).
New Testament or Patristics - Greek.
Church history - Latin and Greek.

And so on. A lay OT scholar may have little need of Latin. But for a canon lawyer it would be indispensable.
 
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