Communion in the hand

[concretecamper]

Father Gabriele Amorth was the official exorcist of the Holy See for decades, until his death in September of this year. Fr. Amorth said in the year 2013 that he would have held some 160,000 exorcisms.

And some of his exorcisms became known through the book “Confessions of Hell to the exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth”.

And we want to share a conversation during an exorcism in 1975 that talks about communion in the hand.

Fr. Gabriele Amorth – Tell only the truth in the Name of the Precious Blood, of the Holy Cross, of the Immaculate Conception …

Demon (A) – We worked for a long time, down there (points down) until we got Communion in hand to be put into practice. Communion in the hand is very good for us in hell; Believe!

Fr. GA – We command you in Name (…) to say only what Heaven commands you! It says only the truth, the whole truth. You have no right to lie. Get out of this body! Go!

Demon – ELA (Virgin Mary) (points up) wants me to say …

Fr. GA – Tell the truth, in Name (…).

Demon – SHE wants me to say … that if SHE, the great LADY, still lived, would receive Communion in her mouth, and on her knees, and would bow down deeply (show how the Blessed Virgin would proceed).

Fr. GA – In the Name of the Blessed Virgin … tell the truth!

Demon – I have to say that you should not receive Communion in your hand. The Pope himself gives Communion in the mouth. It is not his will to give Communion in his hand. This comes from your Cardinals.

Fr. GA- In Name (…) tell the truth!

Demon – From them passed to the Bishops, and then the Bishops thought that it was a matter of obedience, that they had to obey the Cardinals. Hence, the idea passed to the Priests and also they thought that they had to submit because the obedience is written in capital letters.

Fr. GA – Tell the truth. You do not have the right to lie in Name (…).

Demon – One is not obliged to obey the bad ones. It is to the Pope, to JESUS CHRIST, and to the Blessed Virgin that we must obey. Communion in the hand is by no means dear to God.

If You Receive Communion in the Hand, the Devil Has this Message for You - Catholic Digestt

 

[Chesterton]

I've heard that the reason communion in the mouth started was simply because back in the day people didn't wash their hands as much as we do. And common folks like farmers, blacksmiths, carpenters, etc., often came to church with dirty hands, and it was decided the host shouldn't be handled that way.

 

[badatusernames]

That seems a rather oddly specific conversation to have with a demon over an issue that was only controversial to a relatively small number of people. Also for some reason I don't imagine Jesus giving the Last Supper by mouth.

 

[badatusernames]

I've heard that the reason communion in the mouth started was simply because back in the day people didn't wash their hands as much as we do. And common folks like farmers, blacksmiths, carpenters, etc., often came to church with dirty hands, and it was decided the host shouldn't be handled that way.

Seems logical. I also have a hard time imagining that when this sacrament was instituted by Christ at the Last Supper, they received it by the mouth. Does the Eastern Orthodox Church still do the spoon thing?

 

[Chesterton]

Well maybe there are "specialists" among the demons.

 

[Chesterton]

Seems logical. I also have a hard time imagining that when this sacrament was instituted by Christ at the Last Supper, they received it by the mouth. Does the Eastern Orthodox Church still do the spoon thing?

Yes we do. Bread and wine together in the spoon.

 

[Chesterton]

I also have a hard time imagining that when this sacrament was instituted by Christ at the Last Supper, they received it by the mouth.

Yeah I agree they likely didn't. I also learned that another thing that changed out of necessity was confession. Originally, Christians would actually "confess their sins to one another", but this could often lead to scandal and problems within the church community, so it came to be that confession is made privately to one priest.

 

[badatusernames]

Yes we do. Bread and wine together in the spoon.

Oh ok. Thought so.

Yeah I agree they likely didn't. I also learned that another thing that changed out of necessity was confession. Originally, Christians would actually "confess their sins to one another", but this could often lead to scandal and problems within the church community, so it came to be that confession is made privately to one priest.

I can definitely see how that would be a problem. We all know those people, if you know what I mean.

 

[Michie]

Communion in the hand is the first and oldest form. I learned that before I converted.

 

[badatusernames]

Communion in the hand is the first and oldest form. I learned that before I converted.

When did it first switch then from in the hand to on the tongue?

 

[Michie]

When did it first switch then from in the hand to on the tongue?

I have my papers downstairs and I am wrapping some gifts. I will get the info for you tomorrow if you do not mind.

 

[badatusernames]

I have my papers downstairs and I an wrapping some gifts. I will get the info for you tomorrow if you do not mind.

No worries

 

[Michie]

Here is basically the same thing and I'll find more info if you want.

The Eucharist was received in the hand for the first 9 centuries and Pope Benedict confirms this in his book 'God Is Near Us.'

Communion In The Hand?

 

[Michie]

Communion in the hand vs. Communion on the tongue

 

[badatusernames]

Here is basically the same thing and I'll find more info if you want.

The Eucharist was received in the hand for the first 9 centuries and Pope Benedict confirms this in his book 'God Is Near Us.'

Communion In The Hand?

No, no, that's good thank you.

 

[Michie]

Communion received on the tongue and while kneeling

Why Communion on the Tongue is More Suitable Than in the Hand

Communion

The King's Throne | Catholic Answers

 

[Rhamiel]

That seems a rather oddly specific conversation to have with a demon over an issue that was only controversial to a relatively small number of people. Also for some reason I don't imagine Jesus giving the Last Supper by mouth.

It is rather specific
But that does not mean it is not true

 

[badatusernames]

It is rather specific
But that does not mean it is not true

Valid point. It also seems rather odd to me why he didn't go around telling everyone almost immediately after this event if it was so important, but instead waited decades afterwards when the book was published.

 

[Rhamiel]

he did talk frequently about things that happened, in tons of conferences and articles
so it is possible he talked about it before but also republished it in his book