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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules


It's a shame... people were so eager to and excited to get rid of things with Obama's name on them, that they made this shortsighted decision.

Regardless of your politics, Net Neutrality was a good thing for all of us. It's a shame people didn't stop to think for a moment before acting.
 

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F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules


It's a shame... people were so eager to and excited to get rid of things with Obama's name on them, that they made this shortsighted decision.

Regardless of your politics, Net Neutrality was a good thing for all of us. It's a shame people didn't stop to think for a moment before acting.

And I quote the article, according to a Mr. Ajit Pai: "rollback of the rules would eventually help consumers because broadband providers like AT&T and Comcast could offer people a wider variety of service options. Mr. Pai was joined in the 3-to-2 vote by his two fellow Republican commissioners."


Does anyone else smell the BS from any given location across the planet? Eventually help the consumer? ... Really?
 
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And I quote the article, according to a Mr. Ajit Pai: "rollback of the rules would eventually help consumers because broadband providers like AT&T and Comcast could offer people a wider variety of service options. Mr. Pai was joined in the 3-to-2 vote by his two fellow Republican commissioners."


Does anyone else smell the BS from any given location across the planet? Eventually help the consumer? ... Really?

Trump voters supported this. I hope they're happy with the result.

I take that back. I hope they have trouble accessing their favorite web services as penance.
 
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And I quote the article, according to a Mr. Ajit Pai: "rollback of the rules would eventually help consumers because broadband providers like AT&T and Comcast could offer people a wider variety of service options. Mr. Pai was joined in the 3-to-2 vote by his two fellow Republican commissioners."


Does anyone else smell the BS from any given location across the planet? Eventually help the consumer? ... Really?
it stinks to high heaven.

"“Broadband providers will have more incentive to build networks..”
- Ajit Pai

There's no incentive to build when they will be able to prioritize (read; filter and/or throttle) the network as they deem fit.
 
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On a more positive note, the inferno that is going to follow this decision will keep the internet in the EU nice and neutral.

Thanks, USA. :thumbsup:
 
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Maybe I could start working really hard and buy some ISPs in Red states and block Infowars and FoxNews.
There you go, finally something to get you lazy liberals off your couch.[/sarcasm]
 
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This is a VERY good thing. Rather than give my opinion, I offer the opinions of those more heavily involved in the case. They are more valuable. I prefer free markets unless monopolies (like ma-bell) need to be broken up. I live in the sticks and have no cable or DSL, yet I have several options including multiple cell phone plans and at least two satellite plans to choose from. I suspect those of you in cities have many more options to choose from. Competition is what creates choices and low prices. Net neutrality (regulation) stunts growth.
There's this:
The case against Net Neutrality: An IT pro's perspective

And this: The Net Neutrality Noise Machine Turns Violent
 
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This is a VERY good thing. Rather than give my opinion, I offer the opinions of those more heavily involved in the case. They are more valuable. I prefer free markets unless monopolies (like ma-bell) need to be broken up. I live in the sticks and have no cable or DSL, yet I have several options including multiple cell phone plans and at least two satellite plans to choose from. I suspect those of you in cities have many more options to choose from. Competition is what creates choices and low prices. Net neutrality (regulation) stunts growth.
There's this:
The case against Net Neutrality: An IT pro's perspective

And this: The Net Neutrality Noise Machine Turns Violent

I have multiple choices if I'm willing to give up some things I do on the Internet. I'm a gamer which means I have to have a solid Internet connection. In my case, it's Cox Cable. I cannot go with anything else that provides the level of service I need. Cox has been granted basically a monopoly in my area and other options can't get in. So, it's either Cox or nothing.

Break up that system and I'd be willing to see net neutrality go because Cox would have to compete with other providers and they'd have incentive to not charge more for streaming Netflix or whatever.
 
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And I quote the article, according to a Mr. Ajit Pai: "rollback of the rules would eventually help consumers because broadband providers like AT&T and Comcast could offer people a wider variety of service options. Mr. Pai was joined in the 3-to-2 vote by his two fellow Republican commissioners."


Does anyone else smell the BS from any given location across the planet? Eventually help the consumer? ... Really?
Mr. Pai is yet another Trump appointee who helped enlarge and deepen the swamp.
 
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This is a VERY good thing. Rather than give my opinion, I offer the opinions of those more heavily involved in the case. They are more valuable. I prefer free markets unless monopolies (like ma-bell) need to be broken up. I live in the sticks and have no cable or DSL, yet I have several options including multiple cell phone plans and at least two satellite plans to choose from. I suspect those of you in cities have many more options to choose from. Competition is what creates choices and low prices. Net neutrality (regulation) stunts growth.
There's this:
The case against Net Neutrality: An IT pro's perspective

And this: The Net Neutrality Noise Machine Turns Violent
You've been fooled.
(see my quote to you yesterday, in an unrelated topic, for backstory).

There is no incentive to build when the ISPs own the content they allow you to see AND can filter/throttle (called prioritizing) the traffic to your paid subscription level.

What would've been better for you would be to expand the the footprint(s) in municiple broadband (see Chattanooga TN). Surprise,surprise, the big ISPs oppose that as well.
 
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I have multiple choices if I'm willing to give up some things I do on the Internet. I'm a gamer which means I have to have a solid Internet connection. In my case, it's Cox Cable. I cannot go with anything else that provides the level of service I need. Cox has been granted basically a monopoly in my area and other options can't get in. So, it's either Cox or nothing.

Break up that system and I'd be willing to see net neutrality go because Cox would have to compete with other providers and they'd have incentive to not charge more for streaming Netflix or whatever.

I'm not sure I understand what net neutrality is overall.

It was in place for a while, and now it is not again.

Has anything changed between those two periods of time? I'm totally serious.

Did you have competition prior to net neutrality, and don't anymore?

I don't get it I suppose. Did they charge more to stream stuff before, and didn't after - and now will do it again? Is that all net neutrality is? Throttling?

I live in the sticks and have no cable or DSL, yet I have several options including multiple cell phone plans and at least two satellite plans to choose from.

I'm familiar with this scenario. People that live a couple of miles away - not considered the sticks - don't have any options....and never have.

They can get a hot spot from the cell companies. I haven't heard of any satellite locally, although that doesn't mean it isn't there. Although, Satellite is HUGELY expensive.

Many places don't have cable, fiber, dsl, etc. They didn't have it prior to this, nor afterwards. As far as the digital divide? That's something I would bet they never address. It will leave children behind in technology, but big companies like Cox, Comcast, ATT, etc? Its not their concern.

I wish they would find something that addresses that.
 
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