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I grew up in church. I have believed in God all of my life. In church, I would feel God's presence. I even experienced the Fire of God. One day, as I was battling depression, I was listening to music and all of a sudden a thought came over me. The thought was, what if everything you ever experienced was all in your head and God isn't even real. This in any other time would seem absurd, but it latched on to me and I believed it. I'm going through another bout of depression but that thought has come back and now it's hard to call upon God when that thought is present. Can anyone explain what is happening? Is it something normal
 

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Dear 'Reynaldo',this is an attack of the enemy. He wants you to be discouraged and depressed. I have the same problem from time to time. All the promises of the Word of God belong to you,if you are born again and trusting in Jesus. The devil is a liar.
 
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I have had many terrible battles like yours. Only God could make sense of this world however, only He can give hope to the hopeless, and in Him i trust. Wait on the Lord.

Psalm 27:14New King James Version (NKJV)
14 Wait on the Lord;
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart;
Wait, I say, on the Lord!
 
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Can you keep me in your prayers? I feel hopeless. On top of this, I can't sleep because I also have anxiety disorder. I don't know what to do with myself. I feel like my world ending.
 
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Can you keep me in your prayers? I feel hopeless. On top of this, I can't sleep because I also have anxiety disorder. I don't know what to do with myself. I feel like my world ending.
We are praying for you 'Reynaldo'. Please have a chat with your minister and maybe your doctor. God will be your help. Don't give up. There are better days ahead!
 
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I have had many terrible battles like yours. Only God could make sense of this world however, only He can give hope to the hopeless, and in Him i trust. Wait on the Lord.

Psalm 27:14New King James Version (NKJV)
14 Wait on the Lord;
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart;
Wait, I say, on the Lord!
I have had many terrible battles like yours. Only God could make sense of this world however, only He can give hope to the hopeless, and in Him i trust. Wait on the Lord.

Psalm 27:14New King James Version (NKJV)
14 Wait on the Lord;
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart;
Wait, I say, on the Lord!
Would care to show some insight on how got over it? I know it's absurd thought but my mind has latched on to it. Im to the point where I feel like my life is about to end.
 
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Can you keep me in your prayers? I feel hopeless. On top of this, I can't sleep because I also have anxiety disorder. I don't know what to do with myself. I feel like my world ending.
Sure, gladly.

Romans 8:24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
 
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We walk by faith not sight. This means that we look at eternal things that we cant see, rather than temporary things that we do see, such as suffering for example. We may have battles down here but we can be assured that God will win the battle, and has already.
 
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Would care to show some insight on how got over it? I know it's absurd thought but my mind has latched on to it. Im to the point where I feel like my life is about to end.
I still battle with it at times. I dont know how i get through it, other than hoping in the Lord. Like i said, i have had many terrible battles. I take medication too, but its not a cure, and so i need prayer, perseverance in hope, and meditating on good things. When dark things invade my peace i meditate on the Lord. Do i feel hopeless? I will cry out to the Lord and wait on Him. No matter how long it takes i will wait on the Lord because He is our hope.
 
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Can you keep me in your prayers? I feel hopeless. On top of this, I can't sleep because I also have anxiety disorder. I don't know what to do with myself. I feel like my world ending.

:heart: Bless yer heart, Reynaldo, praying for you to God, Who is our God of HOPE, when all seems hopeless. Lifting you up to Him, our very present HELP in our times of trouble, hopelessness, and despair. May He comfort you, calm you, and still all that is causing you angst. Father may it be so, in Jesus name, amen (((hug)))
 
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I grew up in church. I have believed in God all of my life. In church, I would feel God's presence. I even experienced the Fire of God. One day, as I was battling depression, I was listening to music and all of a sudden a thought came over me. The thought was, what if everything you ever experienced was all in your head and God isn't even real. This in any other time would seem absurd, but it latched on to me and I believed it. I'm going through another bout of depression but that thought has come back and now it's hard to call upon God when that thought is present. Can anyone explain what is happening? Is it something normal

This Is the father of lies doing his dirty work....” Blessed me GO THROUGH valleys of weeping”......key words here are “go through”.......wait on the Lord.....you will get through this valley....will be praying for you ...I have been where you are....DON’T GIVE UP!!!
 
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This Is the father of lies doing his dirty work....” Blessed me GO THROUGH valleys of weeping”......key words here are “go through”.......wait on the Lord.....you will get through this valley....will be praying for you ...I have been where you are....DON’T GIVE UP!!!


Sorry....post should have said “blessed ME N go through valleys of weeping”
 
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I grew up in church. I have believed in God all of my life. In church, I would feel God's presence. I even experienced the Fire of God. One day, as I was battling depression, I was listening to music and all of a sudden a thought came over me. The thought was, what if everything you ever experienced was all in your head and God isn't even real. This in any other time would seem absurd, but it latched on to me and I believed it. I'm going through another bout of depression but that thought has come back and now it's hard to call upon God when that thought is present. Can anyone explain what is happening? Is it something normal

This is demonic attack as others have said. We are told to submit unto God and resist the devil and he will flee (James 4:7). However, the devil is able discern when you do not believe the Scriptures. In other words, he knows when you give mental assent to the Scriptures but in your heart do not believe it. This is why he made mince meat out of the seven sons of Sceva. In their heart they did not believe in Jesus. Only the Jesus that Paul preached. Your struggle with demons is because of your struggle with God. For them to plant such a thought in your head so that you think God is nothing more than your imagination suggests that you have been disappointed with the God you think you know.

There are many church doctrines that ascribe things to God that God does not do, so when prayers are unanswered according to those misleading doctrines, faith in God is undermined fostering greater doubt in God.

Submitting unto God means believing what God said regardless of what you see. As another person said, we walk by faith, not by sight. If you don't believe what God said, your attempt to resist the devil will be no better than that of the sons of Sceva.
 
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This is demonic attack as others have said. We are told to submit unto God and resist the devil and he will flee (James 4:7). However, the devil is able discern when you do not believe the Scriptures. In other words, he knows when you give mental assent to the Scriptures but in your heart do not believe it. This is why he made mince meat out of the seven sons of Sceva. In their heart they did not believe in Jesus. Only the Jesus that Paul preached. Your struggle with demons is because of your struggle with God. For them to plant such a thought in your head so that you think God is nothing more than your imagination suggests that you have been disappointed with the God you think you know.

There are many church doctrines that ascribe things to God that God does not do, so when prayers are unanswered according to those misleading doctrines, faith in God is undermined fostering greater doubt in God.

Submitting unto God means believing what God said regardless of what you see. As another person said, we walk by faith, not by sight. If you don't believe what God said, your attempt to resist the devil will be no better than that of the sons of Sceva.


“Only the Jesus that
Paul preached”........Alex,could you expand that thought if you have the time? Thanks
 
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all of a sudden a thought came over me. The thought was, what if everything you ever experienced was all in your head and God isn't even real.
It's probably necessary that we deal with this thought at one time or another. It tests our faith and gives us perspective. Jesus was not spared from the temptations of the devil, and neither will we be.

But Jesus stood on the Word. The worst thing to do in a situation like this is to go on an emotional trip about it. That's exactly what the enemy of your soul wants you to do. You haven't stumbled or alienated God. He can handle our doubts, and especially intrusive thinking that we don't want in the first place. Paul says in 2Cor 2 that we are not ignorant of the devices of the enemy. So be wise and recognize that this kind of attack is par for the course, and the important thing is to not let it throw you for a loop.

Have confidence that God is going to work this out for you. He will. Your job is to return to your rest in Him. Smile at the doubts and stop paying attention to them. They are not separating you from God. Remember, God has promised to work all things for good for those who love Him. Hold onto your trust in the name of the Lord, and satan will regret ever touching you. Stay in the scriptures as well. Romans 8 would be a great place to meditate.
 
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The actual Holy Spirit should be accompanied with a light and an energy. If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

If the church you are attending is actually Spirit filled, you should be able to feel some of the spiritual stuff that will greatly help you along.
 
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“Only the Jesus that
Paul preached”........Alex,could you expand that thought if you have the time? Thanks
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Sure the passage comes from Acts 19.

Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.​

It is usually assumed that the sons of Sceva did not know Jesus through the new birth. Thus they had no authority over the demons, and I agree with this interpretation. However, I am using this quote by extension. With us who do know the Lord through the new birth, our faith can still be misdirected into unbelief.

The OP author, Reynaldo, indicates that he grew up in the Pentecostal tradition. I am assuming that he both has the new birth and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. So, while the sons of Sceva apparently did not know Jesus, thus the demons could say, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you?"; I believe that demons look for cracks in our armor - our armor being our faith in Christ.

For Reynaldo to reach a point where he can believe that God is only a figment of his imagination, he must also believe things about God that are not true. For example, if he believes that God is sovereign in the sense that He micromanages everything, then he may also believe that it is God's responsibility to resist the devil for him. That is simply not true. God has delegated responsibility to us. We are to resist the devil, not God. Submitting to God means trusting God and obeying him. If you obey God without trusting him, then you become like a soldier paying his own way in warfare. In other words, he might try to resist the devil but without faith in God he is shooting blanks and the devils know this.

There are many doctrines that are taught that actually create unbelief in the promises of God, in my opinion. Paul knew who he was in Christ thus walked in that authority, but that did not stop him from being beaten, persecuted and stoned, possibly to death. Some think that if you obey Christ, no bad thing will happen to you. Again, not a real understanding of who we are in Christ.

Those are just some examples of how wrong belief will undermine your authority in Christ.

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Another doctrine that undermines faith is works. If you believe that your relationship is contingent upon your obedience your faith will rise and fall. So if you think you have been disobedient then you will also believe that God will not help you. Thus you think you stand alone with the devil and resistance will fail and the devil knows this. He loves a works doctrine because it brings doubt into our relationship with Christ. God's grace works through our faith, and his grace is also his power. You can speak all you want to the mountain but it will not move because your doubt blocks his grace.

Some object that Paul cried unto to the Lord who said to him, My grace is sufficient, thus Paul who walked in full authority was nonetheless denied access to that power. But that was not case. Thorn in the flesh is an OT expression of persecution, not sickness. God's grace was sufficient to carry him through the persecution, but God does not violate anyone's free will.
 
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I grew up in church. I have believed in God all of my life. In church, I would feel God's presence. I even experienced the Fire of God. One day, as I was battling depression, I was listening to music and all of a sudden a thought came over me. The thought was, what if everything you ever experienced was all in your head and God isn't even real. This in any other time would seem absurd, but it latched on to me and I believed it. I'm going through another bout of depression but that thought has come back and now it's hard to call upon God when that thought is present. Can anyone explain what is happening? Is it something normal

Yes since the fall of man in the garden with adam, satan has access to our minds so he throws all types of blasphemes inside it.
It is up to us to cast down the imaginations that exalt itself against the knowledge of Christ. ( 2 corinthians 10:5 )
The way we cast them down is speaking against them in the name of JESUS.
It's basically a mild OCD that your experiencing.
 
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