Mueller Files First Charges

[KCfromNC]

Can you imagine having 60 million just to invest somewhere, the way these people throw around money is amazing.

Yeah, there were some wealthy Republicans funding the research for quite a while.

 

[KCfromNC]

Let the games begin!

Leave the Steve Miller Band out of this. They sure don't want to hurt no one.

 

[TLK Valentine]

UPDATE: It's Manafort

Paul Manafort, Who Once Ran Trump Campaign, Told to Surrender

WASHINGTON — Paul Manafort and his former business associate Rick Gates were told to surrender to federal authorities Monday morning, the first charges in a special counsel investigation, according to a person involved in the case.

The charges against Mr. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, and Mr. Gates, a business associate of Mr. Manafort, were not immediately clear but represent a significant escalation in a special counsel investigation that has cast a shadow over the president’s first year in office.

 

[KCfromNC]

Let the games begin!

and the winner is ...

Paul Manafort, Who Once Ran Trump Campaign, Told to Surrender

Edit ... dang it, too slow

 

[PeachyKeane]

From the Hill

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress
"The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed while undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI.

“As of tonight, the Department of Justice has authorized the informant to disclose to the Chairmen and Ranking Members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as one member of each of their staffs, any information or documents he has concerning alleged corruption or bribery involving transactions in the uranium market, including but not limited to anything related to Vadim Mikerin, Rosatom, Tenex, Uranium One, or the Clinton Foundation,” she said."

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

Trucker's source for the Pedesta group
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWEipulgwJE

Now I haven't heard anything more on this so Tucker may be checking the source more closely to see if what he said is true.

Yeah that sure sounds like Tucker Carlson. I bet that's it.

In the actual report, where do the Clintons enter into it?

 

[TLK Valentine]

and the winner is ...

Paul Manafort, Who Once Ran Trump Campaign, Told to Surrender

Edit ... dang it, too slow

Dang it, indeed -- a vertical bingo's pretty much impossible since Donald will pardon his kids if Mueller even sneezes in their direction... And Bannon's probably got enough dirt on Donald to net him the same sweetheart deal.

 

[cow451]

Dang it, indeed -- a vertical bingo's pretty much impossible since Donald will pardon his kids if Mueller even sneezes in their direction... And Bannon's probably got enough dirt on Donald to net him the same sweetheart deal.

I remember Watergate. It is important to let the investigations roll out. One step at a time. And see if Trump fires Mueller at some point. And will the GOP support him?

 

[szechuan]

I remover Watergate. It is important to let the investigations roll out. One step at a time. And see if Trump fires Mueller at some point. And will the GOP support him?

Can't wait until Trump Pardons Manafort!

 

[DaisyDay]

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

Money laundering and tax evasion, from a quick read.

 

[FreeinChrist]

If Trump pardons Manafort, that will be a big step toward impeachment. The case and trial of Manafort will take a few years though. He can't pardon until Manafort is actually convicted.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I remover Watergate. It is important to let the investigations roll out. One step at a time. And see if Trump fires Mueller at some point. And will the GOP support him?

The GOP already tried to defund Mueller back in August... what do you think they'll do now that he actually has one of Donald's cronies on the chopping block?

 

[TLK Valentine]

The case and trial of Manafort will take a few years though.

...unless Manafort takes a deal -- which is usually the point of these first indictments. So the question becomes, Will he fall on his sword, or will he rat on someone higher up the food chain?

 

[CitizenD]

Cue:

But, but, no collusion.

He's only an employee of Trump, not Trump.

 

[AllButNone]

And in other Mueller news, possibly a bigger story than Manafort, the collusion narrative is getting a bit of a bump with regard to George Papadopoulos.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007341/download

"The government agrees to bring to the Court's attention...on the condition that your client continues to respond and provide information."

 

[TLK Valentine]

Can't wait until Trump Pardons Manafort!

Shall we start a pool? With 2-1 odds it happens before trial even starts?

20-1 that Donald actually waits for a conviction before tweeting about a pardon...

 

[camille70]

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

"The government notes that the official forwarded defendant PAPADOPOULOS's email to another Campaign official (without including defendant PAPADOPOULOS) and stated: "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal." "

 

[withwonderingawe]

This is actually the smoking gun; George Papadopoulos, no one seems to be paying attention to him.

George Papadopoulos, secretly pleaded guilty earlier this month to making false statements to the FBI about the nature and extent of his contacts with foreign nationals who he knew had ties to senior Russian government officials.

Papadopoulos, 30, was a foreign policy adviser to Trump's campaign in early 2016. He sent at least six emails to top Trump advisers during the campaign offering to set up meetings with Russian officials, the Washington Post reported in August. The first of those emails was sent in March 2016 with the subject line " Meeting with Russian Leadership - Including Putin.".......his first interaction with an "overseas professor" with ties to high-level Russian officials occurred on March 14, 2016, weeks after he joined the campaign. That professor told Papadopoulos just over a month later that the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that came in the form of "thousands of emails."

Early Trump campaign adviser pleaded guilty to making false statements about Russia contacts to FBI

My observations
1, So this is a guy trying to sound important and seeks to set up a meeting between Trump and the Russians. It's not Trump asking to meet with the Russians. The meeting never happened.

2, This is an unnamed professor offering Hillary's emails (interesting to know which ones) to Trump. So Trump could not have hired or had any conclusion with the Russians in hacking her server.

 

[CitizenD]

My observations
1, So this is a guy trying to sound important and seeks to set up a meeting between Trump and the Russians. It's not Trump asking to meet with the Russians. The meeting never happened.

My understanding is that Trump campaign officials gave Papadopoulos the green light to meet on their behalf.

Link: Daniel Dale on Twitter

 

[Rion]

charges against who?

Most likely Manafort, although there's a good outside chance of it being Podesta's brother. I hope the latter, just for the utter hilarity of the DNC hardliners getting excited only for that to be the result.

 

[camille70]

This is actually the smoking gun; George Papadopoulos, no one seems to be paying attention to him.

George Papadopoulos, secretly pleaded guilty earlier this month to making false statements to the FBI about the nature and extent of his contacts with foreign nationals who he knew had ties to senior Russian government officials.

Papadopoulos, 30, was a foreign policy adviser to Trump's campaign in early 2016. He sent at least six emails to top Trump advisers during the campaign offering to set up meetings with Russian officials, the Washington Post reported in August. The first of those emails was sent in March 2016 with the subject line " Meeting with Russian Leadership - Including Putin.".......his first interaction with an "overseas professor" with ties to high-level Russian officials occurred on March 14, 2016, weeks after he joined the campaign. That professor told Papadopoulos just over a month later that the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that came in the form of "thousands of emails."

Early Trump campaign adviser pleaded guilty to making false statements about Russia contacts to FBI

My observations
1, So this is a guy trying to sound important and seeks to set up a meeting between Trump and the Russians. It's not Trump asking to meet with the Russians. The meeting never happened.

2, This is an unnamed professor offering Hillary's emails (interesting to know which ones) to Trump. So Trump could not have hired or had any conclusion with the Russians in hacking her server.

According to #14 on the download of charges I posted, the Trump campaign knew Russia had emails of Hillary since April 2016.