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There Are Good People On Both Sides

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LOL Roaming Millenial the Alt-Right Safe Space.

I have heard her base defend Racists to the Teeth.

Btw people love Redefining Alt-Right over and over when it was originally Popularized by a Racist.
Yeah, I think Spencer knows what the alt-right is, now he has renamed it, New Right. I personally do not care what the media says it is and this woman says it is.
 
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Name one.

The Alt-Right has evangelized over the last several months primarily via a racist and antisemitic online presence. But for Allum Bokhari and Milo Yiannopoulos, the alt-right consists of fun-loving provocateurs, valiant defenders of Western civilization, daring intellectuals—and a handful of neo-Nazis keen on a Final Solution 2.0, but there are only a few of them, and nobody likes them anyways.

The Racist Moral Rot at the Heart of the Alt-Right

The article itself argues against the view that they have of the alt-right, but it provides proof that they have that view to begin with.
 
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The Alt-Right has evangelized over the last several months primarily via a racist and antisemitic online presence. But for Allum Bokhari and Milo Yiannopoulos, the alt-right consists of fun-loving provocateurs, valiant defenders of Western civilization, daring intellectuals—and a handful of neo-Nazis keen on a Final Solution 2.0, but there are only a few of them, and nobody likes them anyways.

The Racist Moral Rot at the Heart of the Alt-Right

The article itself argues against the view that they have of the alt-right, but it provides proof that they have that view to begin with.

EdgeLords 2.0

also she references Paul Joseph Watson a person who works for Alex Jones and spreads toxic hate and Vitriol.
Milo is a known Troll, he's a smart one i'll give him that with some good arguments, but over-all he's still a troll.

The Alt-Right says oh it's just a small minority of them are racists, when they completely ignore Spencer's Definition. They essentially took it for themselves to redefine it making it even more confusing to begin with. Regardless...

That Alt-Right base mostly consist of Racist Trolls.
 
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So I got as far as her saying she is not an expert. So you believe whatever she says. Got it.

Dang, I have been foolish enough to think that you were actually honest in wanting to discuss stuff all this time. I'm usually pretty good at figuring out who is being honest. Kudos to you for tricking me.

You got what, 30 secs in, and decided that you didn't want to bother? Nice. I feel like a fool for watching the video you posted yesterday. Since you are not going to care about what the media or anyone else says about it, why ask? Oh, but you will believe some random guy claiming that a Chinese girl is an alt-right safe space.

Again, kudos to you for fooling me into thinking that you wanted an honest discussion.
 
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I remember someone earlier in the thread (or maybe it was one of the dozens of nearly identical threads) claiming that "alt-left" was unfair because people on the left did not define it, while "alt-right" was perfectly fair because it was a term defined by the right.

Yet, whenever someone outside of the left tries to define "alt-right" on this site or others, they are told that their definition is wrong, and that it has to mean what the left thinks it means.

Myself, I don't trust anyone to define "alt-right" who is not also familiar with the term "alt-lite."
 
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I remember someone earlier in the thread (or maybe it was one of the dozens of nearly identical threads) claiming that "alt-left" was unfair because people on the left did not define it, while "alt-right" was perfectly fair because it was a term defined by the right.

Yet, whenever someone outside of the left tries to define "alt-right" on this site or others, they are told that their definition is wrong, and that it has to mean what the left thinks it means.

Myself, I don't trust anyone to define "alt-right" who is not also familiar with the term "alt-lite."

Because Alt-Left was a word created by Trolls, and also Nobody identifies as one, not the same as Defines.

And no, it suggests the the Alt-Right are just Racist/Trolls and they clearly don't have a definite definition of it either as they constantly change it to either confuse people or for the lulz.
 
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I remember someone earlier in the thread (or maybe it was one of the dozens of nearly identical threads) claiming that "alt-left" was unfair because people on the left did not define it, while "alt-right" was perfectly fair because it was a term defined by the right.

Yet, whenever someone outside of the left tries to define "alt-right" on this site or others, they are told that their definition is wrong, and that it has to mean what the left thinks it means.

Myself, I don't trust anyone to define "alt-right" who is not also familiar with the term "alt-lite."

Maybe we should just drop the "alt" labels altogether.
 
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When it comes to conservatives and liberals, there are good people on both sides of that divide.

For antifa and neo-nazis, these are the two sides of the same coin, and that coin is evil and corrupting.

Everybody is redeemable. This much is true. But these are two groups that have opted for violence, hatred and extremism. There is nothing good about that choice.
These are organizations that advocate criminal activity and hatred, and attract like-minded criminals and haters to their cause.

When it comes to good people, suffice it to say that none of us are really good, except God. People aren't basically good, nor are they basically evil. We are all a mixed bag. The antifa and neo-Nazi movements on the other hand are loathsome movements and institutions. There is no reason to tolerate these organization, who add nothing to the debate or the advancement of American politics. The moment that any movement or organization tolerates and/or justifies the violence of its members, is the moment that that movement or organization needs to be shut down.
 
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When it comes to conservatives and liberals, there are good people on both sides of that divide.

For antifa and neo-nazis, these are the two sides of the same coin, and that coin is evil and corrupting.

Everybody is redeemable. This much is true. But these are two groups that have opted for violence, hatred and extremism. There is nothing good about that choice.
These are organizations that advocate criminal activity and hatred, and attract like-minded criminals and haters to their cause.

When it comes to good people, suffice it to say that none of us are really good, except God. People aren't basically good, nor are they basically evil. We are all a mixed bag. The antifa and neo-Nazi movements on the other hand are loathsome movements and institutions. There is no reason to tolerate these organization, who add nothing to the debate or the advancement of American politics. The moment that any movement or organization tolerates and/or justifies the violence of its members, is the moment that that movement or organization needs to be shut down.

Which are you, anti-fascism or pro-Nazi?
 
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You clearly missed it.

The President was speaking of the people who came to protest the removal of a statue. Some were National Socialist and some were not.

The President was speaking of the ones that were not members of the National Socialist Party.

People marching in a white supremacist rally don't get to say they were just innocently protesting the removal of confederate monuments.

No one should ever believe such an idea.
 
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The non-racists. There are plenty of people who think of themselves as 'alt-right' but aren't racist.

If there were any people at that rally to protest the removal of the statue of lee, who were fine protesting along side white supremacists, the KKK and Nazi's that don't believe they are racists they are probably simply lacking self awareness.
 
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Which one are you?
Ditto for me. I will let your answer for yourself be mine too.

Fair enough?
So which one are you?

Really? You can't choose between being anti-fascism and pro-Nazi? I am genuinely shocked and horrified. Although, I'm not sure why.
 
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Really? You can't choose between being anti-fascism and pro-Nazi? I am genuinely shocked and horrified. Although, I'm not sure why.
Where did I say that I couldn't choose?
I expected a certain amount of literacy in a response.
Obviously, my expectations were way too high.
By the way, when did you stop beating your wife?
 
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Where did I say that I couldn't choose?

My mistake. What have you chosen?

I expected a certain amount of literacy in a response.
Obviously, my expectations were way too high.

I know. And I thought this question was a gimme. Apparently my expectations were too high.

By the way, when did you stop beating your wife?

Fun. But I was offering what I thought was a really easy question. It's disturbing that you're so confounded by it.
 
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