If Jesus gave a NEW or his own set of Commandments, he is a sinner and NOT the Messiah!!!

[SAAN]

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Jesus expanded on many of the commands and that they start from your heart whether it was murder can start from hate or adultery can start from lust. He summed up the commands into 2, but a sum doesnt not equal a cancellation of it.

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

These 2 commands came from:
Leviticus 19:18
18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:5
5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


So back to Deut 4:2, Jesus could not add any New Commands to the word of God, so the excuses used on here by some that the only thing they have to follow is the one NEW command in John 13:34-35, and disregard everything else is FALSE.


Jesus was not giving his disciples a new command, he was just giving them a lesson on a original command for the first time and showing them the example on how he lived it out for them.

 

[SeventyOne]

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

Start here with a bit of understanding. Who is the 'you' who shall not add to the word? Those who receive it from the Lord.

Did Jesus receive it from the Lord? No. He was the one giving it.
Therefore, is He included in the group commanded not to change it? No.
Who can change it? The one giving it.
Who gave it? The Lord.
Was Jesus the Lord? Yes.
Therefore, can Jesus change it? Yes.

 

[Faith Alone 1 Cor 15:1-4]

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Jesus expanded on many of the commands and that they start from your heart whether it was murder can start from hate or adultery can start from lust. He summed up the commands into 2, but a sum doesnt not equal a cancellation of it.

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

These 2 commands came from:
Leviticus 19:18
18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:5
5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


So back to Deut 4:2, Jesus could not add any New Commands to the word of God, so the excuses used on here by some that the only thing they have to follow is the one NEW command in John 13:34-35, and disregard everything else is FALSE.


Jesus was not giving his disciples a new command, he was just giving them a lesson on a original command for the first time and showing them the example on how he lived it out for them.

Luke 16:16
Laws were never made for salvation but to distinc Israel from gentiles , Israel was never saved by any law because nobody can keep law , they were saved by believe on comming Messiah that will die for thier sins.

Law is just mirror for you to see that you are dirty , it won't clean you .

 

[Doveaman]

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Jesus expanded on many of the commands and that they start from your heart whether it was murder can start from hate or adultery can start from lust. He summed up the commands into 2, but a sum doesnt not equal a cancellation of it.

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

These 2 commands came from:
Leviticus 19:18
18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:5
5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


So back to Deut 4:2, Jesus could not add any New Commands to the word of God, so the excuses used on here by some that the only thing they have to follow is the one NEW command in John 13:34-35, and disregard everything else is FALSE.


Jesus was not giving his disciples a new command, he was just giving them a lesson on a original command for the first time and showing them the example on how he lived it out for them.

Actually, the commandments of Christ was new to those who were relying on the 10 commandments all their lives:

"'All these I have kept from my youth,' the young man said. 'What do I still lack?' Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me'" (Matthew 19:20-21).

Where in the Old Testament are we commanded to give up everything we have to follow Christ?

Giving up everything we have to follow Christ is a new commandment.

All of our obedience to God is our obedience to that new commandment.

All of our obedience to God is our giving up everything we have to follow Christ.

"The Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent Him" (John 5:22-23).

There are many people today who still rely on the 10 commandments, and they still do not even recognize the Son.

 

[SAAN]

Start here with a bit of understanding. Who is the 'you' who shall not add to the word? Those who receive it from the Lord.

Did Jesus receive it from the Lord? No. He was the one giving it.
Therefore, is He included in the group commanded not to change it? No.
Who can change it? The one giving it.
Who gave it? The Lord.
Was Jesus the Lord? Yes.
Therefore, can Jesus change it? Yes.

He came to do the will of the father, not change the commands. He have perfect examples on how they were to be lived.

John 8:4
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

 

[SAAN]

Luke 16:16
Laws were never made for salvation but to distinc Israel from gentiles , Israel was never saved by any law because nobody can keep law , they were saved by believe on comming Messiah that will die for thier sins.

Law is just mirror for you to see that you are dirty , it won't clean you .

No one said Salvation was through the law, that only comes through Christ, but the commandments show you what sin is, so when people do get saved and turn from their ways, they need to know what the commandments are to make sure they are not breaking them.

 

[SeventyOne]

He came to do the will of the father, not change the commands. He have perfect examples on how they were to be lived.

John 8:4
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

He can do both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[SAAN]

Actually, the commandments of Christ was new to those who were relying on the 10 commandments all their lives:

"'All these I have kept from my youth,' the young man said. 'What do I still lack?' Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me'" (Matthew 19:20-21).

Where in the Old Testament are we commanded to give up everything we have to follow Christ?

Giving up everything we have to follow Christ is a new commandment.

All of our obedience to Christ is the result of our giving up everything we have to follow Christ.

There was no such thing as the New testament when Christ walked the earth, so they were all teaching from the OT. And if we are to follow his example, what did Christ do? He kept his fathers commandments (ones that applied to him).

 

[SAAN]

He can do both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

No he cant add any commandments, as the Torah specifically states do not add to the word and he came to earth a couple thousand years afterwards, so if Jesus came and started his own doctrine, he would have been sinning. He stated that he came to do the will of the father, not his own.

 

[Albion]

He came to do the will of the father, not change the commands. He have perfect examples on how they were to be lived..

He commended the Commandments to his disciples and did not alter any of them.

 

[SeventyOne]

No he cant add any commandments, as the Torah specifically states do not add to the word and he came to earth a couple thousand years afterwards, so if Jesus came and started his own doctrine, he would have been sinning. He stated that he came to do the will of the father, not his own.

All the commandments were from Him, regardless of the timeline given. You don't have the authority to declare that God can or cannot do anything not specifically revealed in scripture.

Again, who was told not to add anything? Those who received it. Jesus didn't receive it. He gave it. He is the authority. My children cannot change or add to any of the rules in my house. However, as I am the law-giver around here, I can make any modifications I wish, at any point I wish. I am the authority around my house.

 

[Albion]

No he cant add any commandments, as the Torah specifically states do not add to the word and he came to earth a couple thousand years afterwards, so if Jesus came and started his own doctrine, he would have been sinning. He stated that he came to do the will of the father, not his own.

He didn't add any.

 

[Doveaman]

There was no such thing as the New testament when Christ walked the earth, so they were all teaching from the OT. And if we are to follow his example, what did Christ do? He kept his fathers commandments (ones that applied to him).

The Old Testament and the New Testament are just a collection of writings.

When Christ walked the earth the Old Testament writings were already complete.

Christ fulfilled what was written about Him in the Old Testament, while, at the same, He gave new revelations that are now recorded in the New Testament:

"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about Me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have life" (John 5:39-40).

The command to come to Christ to have eternal life is also a new command that was not given in the Old Testament.

This new command to come to Christ to have eternal life is only achieved through the power of the Holy Spirit, which was given to us after Christ death and resurrection, as recorded in the New Testament.

In the New testament it is also revealed that we are under a New Covenant, which is the New Covenant of the Spirit.

We now live by the new commands of the Spirit, and not by the old commands of the letter/10 Commandments:

"He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant – not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills...which was engraved in letters on stone" (2 Corinthians 3:6-8).

 

[SAAN]

He didn't add any.

if you are on here long enough, you will hear this alot: The only commands Christians are to follow is the New command from Jesus from John 13:34-35, and disregard everything else and they will say he did add a new command.

 

[listed]

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Jesus expanded on many of the commands and that they start from your heart whether it was murder can start from hate or adultery can start from lust. He summed up the commands into 2, but a sum doesnt not equal a cancellation of it.

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

These 2 commands came from:
Leviticus 19:18
18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Deuteronomy 6:5
5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.


So back to Deut 4:2, Jesus could not add any New Commands to the word of God, so the excuses used on here by some that the only thing they have to follow is the one NEW command in John 13:34-35, and disregard everything else is FALSE.


Jesus was not giving his disciples a new command, he was just giving them a lesson on a original command for the first time and showing them the example on how he lived it out for them.

Must be if one has a whole bible or a holey bible.

 

[listed]

He came to do the will of the father, not change the commands. He have perfect examples on how they were to be lived.

John 8:4
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

Jeremiah 31:31-33. I would refer you to Hebrews 8:9-11 but that is Paul you know.

 

[listed]

No one said Salvation was through the law, that only comes through Christ, but the commandments show you what sin is, so when people do get saved and turn from their ways, they need to know what the commandments are to make sure they are not breaking them.

Can a person be involved in continuous willful sin and be a Christian?

 

[Goatee]

Jesus is God. As God the Son He gave us a new covenant. I would gladly do what Jesus would command of me.

 

[listed]

There was no such thing as the New testament when Christ walked the earth, so they were all teaching from the OT. And if we are to follow his example, what did Christ do? He kept his fathers commandments (ones that applied to him).

Teaching from isn't the same as teaching the same.

 

[listed]

No he cant add any commandments, as the Torah specifically states do not add to the word and he came to earth a couple thousand years afterwards, so if Jesus came and started his own doctrine, he would have been sinning. He stated that he came to do the will of the father, not his own.

Jeremiah 31:31-33 and Jesus was doing what His Father told Him to do. See John 5:30 and 6:38.