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TEN commandments = Commandments of God = moral Law of God

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God's TEN Commandments are included in what the Bible calls the "Commandments of God"

(So then they are not the only parts of the OT that are included as the "Commandments of God" - but they are one of the laws included)

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KEEP the Commandments - God's Ten Commandments are included as the "Commandments of God"


10 Commandments are –
“Commandments of God” Neh 10:29
“Law of God” Neh 10:29
“Word of God” Mark 7:13
“Commandment of God” Mark 7:6-13
NT “Scripture” James 2:8
NT “Law” – James 2:9-11
NT Commandments Eph 6:2, Rom 13:9, Romans 7:7-10


1John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


John says -
Rev 22:
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.(KJV)

The teaching of Christ: Commandment of God = Word of God = "Moses said" in the case of the TEN Commandments.

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


Exodus 20
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.


1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Rev 14:12
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

1 Cor 7:19 .. "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God"

Eph 6:2 the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment WITH a promise" in that still valid - unit of TEN.

Matt 19 "if you would have eternal life KEEP the Commandments... Which ones?.." then comes Christ list FROM the Ten Commandments.

Romans 7 - quoting the Commandments - from the TEN
Romans 13 - from the TEN
James 2 - from the TEN.

1 John 3:4 "Sin IS transgression of the LAW"

Rom 7 Sin defined by the LAW
7 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. 9 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; 10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; 11 for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. 12 So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

Rom 4 - where there is no Law there is no sin.

Rom 3:19-20
19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.


And of course - under the NEW Covenant the "LAW of God written on heart and mind" - Jeremiah 31:31-33 and certainly Jeremiah knew about the TEN.
 
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Is it any wonder then -- that even the pro-Sunday sources such as the ones listed here -- affirm the same Bible detail that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God?

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.

When "both sides" admit to the same obvious Bible detail... well - it just does not GET any easier than this!!
 
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The commandments were the civil and criminal law of Israel and dealt with the behaviors described in them. They were intended to protect the people from their own evil behavior.

It is through the indwelling spirit that we are able to elevate these laws to their fullest meaning. Prior to that first day of Pentecost the law spoken of by Jesus was the old covenant law (although he hinted at it's fulfillment), as the Holy Spirit was not yet given to the church.
 
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The commandments were the civil and criminal law of Israel and dealt with the behaviors described in them. They were intended to protect the people from their own evil behavior.

In and with the commandments, or in TORAH,
did YHWH give any PROMISE concerning staying healthy to His people ?

Did YHWH keep HIS PROMISE ?
 
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In and with the commandments, or in TORAH,
did YHWH give any PROMISE concerning staying healthy to His people ?

Did YHWH keep HIS PROMISE ?

As Paul said the problem was with them, not the law. If the law was obeyed many benefits would accrue.
 
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As Paul said the problem was with them, not the law. If the law was obeyed many benefits would accrue.
I didn't ask what Paul said, although Y'SHUA HAMASHIACH trained and taught him, and what Paul taught others in Christ is still true today, as always.

You posted what the commandments were "intended for", and I wanted to see if you know what is written ,

specifically YHWH'S PROMISE with the commandments

related to health.
 
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As Paul said the problem was with them, not the law.
The lawless ones may feel comfortable in their decision to reject good counsel to keep God's Ten Commandments, but that comfortable trend won't save them in the Day of Judgment (Matt. 7:21-23).

What a tragic thing to see people, who claim to be followers of Jesus, trampling on God's Law!
 
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I didn't ask what Paul said, although Y'SHUA HAMASHIACH trained and taught him, and what Paul taught others in Christ is still true today, as always.

You posted what the commandments were "intended for", and I wanted to see if you know what is written ,

specifically YHWH'S PROMISE with the commandments

related to health.

Of course I know. Good health comes from following God's law. Most of God's promises are conditional on the obedience of the people, i.e. "IF you will obey , THEN I will bless......"
 
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Of course I know. Good health comes from following God's law.
Many , in fact most, people don't know this.

Is there anything written in TORAH, with God's Commands, any PROMISE of GOD, for health ? -- for freedom from disease ?
 
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If we are breaking the law deliberately and thinking that we are covered by the blood and show no signs of true repentance we are probably deceiving ourselves.

I know some who call themselves Christians like these. When called out on their sin all they have to say is I confessed with my mouth that Jesus is Lord.

As we know there is so much more to it than that.

Or I'm covered, I said a little sinner's prayer 19 years ago. And have lived like the devil ever since.

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Many , in fact most, people don't know this.

Is there anything written in TORAH, with God's Commands, any PROMISE of GOD, for health ? -- for freedom from disease ?

Yes, lots of health blessings for obedience but no absolute promise.
 
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Not probably, but certainly.

Thankfully God is merciful and patient. I have given up some bad practices and attitudes over time rather than through 'immediate' repentance. Lessons learned over time is part of our 'space to repent'. That's why we must be patient with others who don't have the experience that we have. We are all a 'work in progress'.
 
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I've read it many times, yes. Where are you going with this? :scratch:
Just where I started from, asking about this post>
The commandments were the civil and criminal law of Israel and dealt with the behaviors described in them. They were intended to protect the people from their own evil behavior.

In and with the commandments, or in TORAH,
did YHWH give any PROMISE concerning staying healthy to His people ?

Did YHWH keep HIS PROMISE ?

The answer is yes. If you read TORAH, you would have read His Promise also.

Albeit, many people have indeed read it, but do not remember His Promise.

I don't know why.
 
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Just where I started from, asking about this post>




The answer is yes. If you read TORAH, you would have read His Promise also.

Albeit, many people have indeed read it, but do not remember His Promise.

I don't know why.

It is my understanding that such promises of health and freedom from disease are conditional. Which specific promise are you referring to?
 
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