To those who believe the Bible threatens endless conscious torments

[SkyWriting]

There is no torment in Hell. Hell is jail. It is the holding place for all who reject the gift of life in Christ until the White Throne Judgement. Then the truth of their own selfishness will be revealed and they will be placed into the Lake of Fire where the fire is not quenched nor the worm dies.

There is torment in Hell.
It is self-imposed.




19Now there was a rich man dressed in purple and fine linen, who lived each day in joyous splendor. 20And a beggar named Lazarus lay at his gate, covered with sores 21and longing to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22One day the beggar died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. And the rich man also died and was buried. 23In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham from afar, with Lazarus by his side.

24So he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. For I am in agony in this fire.’

25But Abraham answered, ‘Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things. But now he is comforted here, while you are left to suffer. 26And besides all this, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you, so that even those who wish cannot cross from here to you, nor can anyone cross from there to us.’

27‘Then I beg you, father,’ he said, ‘send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them so they will not also end up in this place of torment.’

29But Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let your brothers listen to them.’

30‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone is sent to them from the dead, they will repent.’

31Then Abraham said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

 

[BukiRob]

To those who believe the Bible threatens endless conscious torments (hell):

1) How do you know that anyone will suffer such a fate? Can you be hopeful of universalism, that is hope that all will be saved? Just as the Roman Catholic Church believes.

2) Assuming some do go into everlasting punishment, why then can't they also come out of everlasting punishment?

3) Assuming some do go into eternal torments, what's to say God won't change His mind, e.g. if they repent, and free them? Has God not changed His mind before in the Scriptures (e.g. see the account of Jonah), when people repent?

So what's stopping one who believes in the threat of endless conscious torments from being one who also hopes that Love Omnipotent may yet save all?

Unique Proof For Christian, Biblical Universalism

Hell, as it taught in western society, is a pagan concept. First, what is translated in the KJV as Hell is a gross mistranslation of the Greek and Hebrew words. Second, if you look at the Jewish understand of what happens at death DURING the ministry of Messiah there was no concept of Hell as used in the western church today.

The words generally translated as hell are Sheol, Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna.

Sheol and Hades are the same words one Hebrew (Sheol) and Greek (Hades) is generally understood as THE GRAVE.

Tartarus is only found once in the Bible and it is found in 2 Peter to describe the abode of those most wicked angels who took part in the rebellion of heaven.

Gehenna was in the Hinnom valley outside the western walls of the city of Jerusalem and it was used as a trash burning pit where the city garbage, dead animals, and dead criminals were tossed to be burned up. The fires were kept burning by adding brimstone and sulfur.

Third, G-d forbade the torture of captured enemies or those held captive.

Fourth, we are explicitly told in Revelation 20:14-15 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

If you are not saved you are cast into the lake of fire where you undergo the second death. Death is the absence of life, you are dead you know nothing and all conscious awareness and mental functions cease to exist.

 

[BukiRob]

There is torment in Hell.
It is self-imposed.




19Now there was a rich man dressed in purple and fine linen, who lived each day in joyous splendor. 20And a beggar named Lazarus lay at his gate, covered with sores 21and longing to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22One day the beggar died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. And the rich man also died and was buried. 23In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham from afar, with Lazarus by his side.

24So he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. For I am in agony in this fire.’

25But Abraham answered, ‘Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things. But now he is comforted here, while you are left to suffer. 26And besides all this, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you, so that even those who wish cannot cross from here to you, nor can anyone cross from there to us.’

27‘Then I beg you, father,’ he said, ‘send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them so they will not also end up in this place of torment.’

29But Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let your brothers listen to them.’

30‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone is sent to them from the dead, they will repent.’

31Then Abraham said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

It is both foolish and dangerous to take a Parable as literal. No one I know of would ever do this with any of the other parables Yeshua gave during his ministry.

 

[SkyWriting]

It is both foolish and dangerous to take a Parable as literal. No one I know of would ever do this with any of the other parables Yeshua gave during his ministry.

Actually, there is no evidence that any parable was fiction based.
Why would Yeshua have to invent any story?
Average people need to synthesize a story.

 

[ClementofA]

There is a link to the page in the blue text. I'd like you to look at that link.

Link in the blue text?

 

[Der Alte]

Hell, as it taught in western society, is a pagan concept. First, what is translated in the KJV as Hell is a gross mistranslation of the Greek and Hebrew words. Second, if you look at the Jewish understand of what happens at death DURING the ministry of Messiah there was no concept of Hell as used in the western church today.
The words generally translated as hell are Sheol, Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna.
Sheol and Hades are the same words one Hebrew (Sheol) and Greek (Hades) is generally understood as THE GRAVE.
Tartarus is only found once in the Bible and it is found in 2 Peter to describe the abode of those most wicked angels who took part in the rebellion of heaven.
Gehenna was in the Hinnom valley outside the western walls of the city of Jerusalem and it was used as a trash burning pit where the city garbage, dead animals, and dead criminals were tossed to be burned up. The fires were kept burning by adding brimstone and sulfur.
Third, G-d forbade the torture of captured enemies or those held captive.
Fourth, we are explicitly told in Revelation 20:14-15 14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.
If you are not saved you are cast into the lake of fire where you undergo the second death. Death is the absence of life, you are dead you know nothing and all conscious awareness and mental functions cease to exist.

Much of this post is not factual. Among the Jews in Israel before and during the time of Jesus was a belief in a place of everlasting torment of the wicked and they called it both sheol and gehinnom.

Jewish Encyclopedia, Gehenna
The place where children were sacrificed to the god Moloch … in the "valley of the son of Hinnom," to the south of Jerusalem (Josh. xv. 8, passim; II Kings xxiii. 10; Jer. ii. 23; vii. 31-32; xix. 6, 13-14). … the valley was deemed to be accursed, and "Gehenna" therefore soon became a figurative equivalent for "hell." Hell, like paradise, was created by God (Sotah 22a); [Note, this is according to the ancient Jews, long before the Christian era, NOT the bias of Christian translators.]
(I)n general …sinners go to hell immediately after their death. The famous teacher Johanan b. Zakkai wept before his death because he did not know whether he would go to paradise or to hell (Ber. 28b). The pious go to paradise, and sinners to hell (B.M. 83b).
But as regards the heretics, etc., and Jeroboam, Nebat's son, hell shall pass away, but they shall not pass away" (R. H. 17a; comp. Shab. 33b). All that descend into Gehenna shall come up again, with the exception of three classes of men: those who have committed adultery, or shamed their neighbors, or vilified them (B. M. 58b).[/i]
… heretics and the Roman oppressors go to Gehenna, and the same fate awaits the Persians, the oppressors of the Babylonian Jews (Ber. 8b). When Nebuchadnezzar descended into hell, [ שׁאול /Sheol] all its inhabitants were afraid that he was coming to rule over them (Shab. 149a; comp. Isa. xiv. 9-10). The Book of Enoch also says that it is chiefly the heathen who are to be cast into the fiery pool on the Day of Judgment (x. 6, xci. 9, et al). "The Lord, the Almighty, will punish them on the Day of Judgment by putting fire and worms into their flesh, so that they cry out with pain unto all eternity" (Judith xvi. 17). The sinners in Gehenna will be filled with pain when God puts back the souls into the dead bodies on the Day of Judgment, according to Isa. xxxiii. 11 (Sanh. 108b).
Link:Jewish Encyclopedia Online
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Talmud -Tractate Rosh Hashanah Chapter 1.
The school of Hillel says: . . . but as for Minim, [follower of Jesus] informers and disbelievers, who deny the Torah, or Resurrection, or separate themselves from the congregation, or who inspire their fellowmen with dread of them, or who sin and cause others to sin, as did Jeroboam the son of Nebat and his followers, they all descend to Gehenna, and are judged there from generation to generation, as it is said [Isa. lxvi. 24]: "And they shall go forth and look upon the carcases of the men who have transgressed against Me; for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched." Even when Gehenna will be destroyed, they will not be consumed, as it is written [Psalms, xlix. 15]: "And their forms wasteth away in the nether world," which the sages comment upon to mean that their forms shall endure even when the grave is no more. Concerning them Hannah says [I Sam. ii. 10]: "The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces."
Link:Tract Rosh Hashana: Chapter I.​

When Jesus taught about,

• “Then shall he say … Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” Matthew 25:41
• "these shall go away into eternal punishment, Matthew 25:46"
• "the fire of hell where the fire is not quenched and the worm does not die, Mark 9:43-48"
• "cast into a fiery furnace where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth,” Matthew 13:42, Matthew 13:50
• “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” Matthew 18:6
• “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:23
• “woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. ” Matthew 26:24​

These teachings tacitly reaffirmed and sanctioned the existing Jewish view of eternal hell. In Matt. 18:6, 26:24, see above, Jesus teaches that there is a fate worse than death or nonexistence. A fate worse than death is also mentioned in Hebrews 10:28-31.

Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.​

Jesus used the word death 17 times in the gospels, if He wanted to say eternal death in Matt 25:46, that is what He would have said but He didn’t, He said “eternal punishment.” The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection, they knew that everybody died; rich, poor, young, old, good, bad, men, women, children, infants and knew that it had nothing to do with punishment and was permanent. When Jesus taught “eternal punishment” they would not have understood it as death, it would have meant something worse to them.
…..Jesus knew what the Jews, believed about hell. If the Jews were wrong, when Jesus taught about man’s eternal fate, such as eternal punishment, He would have corrected them. Jesus did not correct them, thus their teaching on hell must have been correct.
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The traditional explanation that a burning rubbish heap in the Valley of Hinnom south of Jerusalem gave rise to the idea of a fiery Gehenna of judgment is attributed to Rabbi David Kimhi's commentary on Psalm 27:13 (ca. A.D. 1200). He maintained that in this loathsome valley fires were kept burning perpetually to consume the filth and cadavers thrown into it. However, Strack and Billerbeck state that there is neither archaeological nor literary evidence in support of this claim, in either the earlier intertestamental or the later rabbinic sources (Hermann L. Strack and Paul Billerbeck, Kommentar zum Neuen Testament aus Talmud and Midrasch, 5 vols. [Munich: Beck, 1922-56], 4:2:1030). Also a more recent author holds a similar view (Lloyd R. Bailey, "Gehenna: The Topography of Hell," Biblical Archeologist 49 [1986]: 189.
Source, Bibliotheca Sacra / July–September 1992
Scharen: Gehenna in the Synoptics Pt. 1​

Note there is no “archaeological nor literary evidence in support of this claim, [that Gehenna was ever used as a garbage dump] in either the earlier intertestamental or the later rabbinic sources” If Gehenna was ever used as a garbage dump there should be broken pottery, tools, utensils, bones, etc. but there is no such evidence.

“Gehenna is presented as diametrically opposed to ‘life’: it is better to enter life than to go to Gehenna. . .It is common practice, both in scholarly and less technical works, to associate the description of Gehenna with the supposedly contemporary garbage dump in the valley of Hinnom. This association often leads scholars to emphasize the destructive aspects of the judgment here depicted: fire burns until the object is completely consumed. Two particular problems may be noted in connection with this approach. . First, there is no convincing evidence in the primary sources for the existence of a fiery rubbish dump in this location (in any case, a thorough investigation would be appreciated). Secondly, the significant background to this passage more probably lies in Jesus’ allusion to Isaiah 66:24.”
(“The Duration of Divine Judgment in the New Testament” in The Reader Must Understand edited by K. Brower and M. W. Ellion, p. 223, emphasis mine)
G. R. Beasley-Murray in Jesus and the Kingdom of God:
“Ge-Hinnom (Aramaic Ge-hinnam, hence the Greek Geenna), ‘The Valley of Hinnom,’ lay south of Jerusalem, immediately outside its walls. The notion, still referred to by some commentators, that the city’s rubbish was burned in this valley, has no further basis than a statement by the Jewish scholar Kimchi (sic) made about A.D. 1200; it is not attested in any ancient source.” (p. 376n.92)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/20113-the-burning-garbage-dump-of-gehenna-is-a-myth/ ​

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[ClementofA]

Matthew 18:8
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Mark 3:29
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Hebrews 6:2
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

"...in the Old Testament the old covenant of the law is referred to as the "everlasting covenant" (Lev. 24:8) implying that it was to endure for eternity. Yet the New Testament records that the first covenant was "done away" and "abolished" 2 Cor. 3:11,13. God "has made the first old" Heb. 8:13. Either God is confused, or else translators have rendered the text inaccurately. Since the former cannot be true, it is incumbent upon us to search out the exact meanings of words and to find the answers to such discrepancies."

Eternity Explained

For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. (Lam.3:31)

 

[surrender1]

I'm afraid he does... read Revelation end to end and then tell me that there's no eternal damnation. Any other ideas are from people trying to make scripture suit their lifestyle.

Of course, I have read it. Many times. If you read about the smoke going up forever, for example, you'll see that John is borrowing apocalyptic language from the book of Isaiah where he speaks of the fate of Edom and the never ending smoke of their distruction. I don't see any smoke. And the reason I don't is because it's a figure of speech, not about hell, but about the irrevocable and permanent judgment of the nation.

 

[PropheticTimes]

"...in the Old Testament the old covenant of the law is referred to as the "everlasting covenant" (Lev. 24:8) implying that it was to endure for eternity. Yet the New Testament records that the first covenant was "done away" and "abolished" 2 Cor. 3:11,13. God "has made the first old" Heb. 8:13. Either God is confused, or else translators have rendered the text inaccurately. Since the former cannot be true, it is incumbent upon us to search out the exact meanings of words and to find the answers to such discrepancies."

Eternity Explained

For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. (Lam.3:31)

I gave you God's Word on the matter. You are giving me man's word as rebuttal. You are not arguing me, you are arguing God. It's between you and Him, not you and me.

 

[Rajni]

I gave you God's Word on the matter. You are giving me man's word as rebuttal. You are not arguing me, you are arguing God. It's between you and Him, not you and me.

How is "For no one is cast off by the Lord forever" (Lamentations 3:31) man's word?

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[dqhall]

Jesus was born into a world full of suffering, war, lust, greed, lack of good medical care, superstition instead of truth, and chief priests (Sanhedrin) who did not know God.

Matthew 4:16 The people who sat in darkness saw a great light, to those who sat in the region and shadow of death, to them light has dawned. (Isaiah 9:2). Jesus did good things to make this world a better place. That is a sign of God's mercy (John 3:16).

Paul suffered many trials and tribulations. God kept him going. Paul was working for a reward that does not perish.

2 Corinthians 11 (WEB) Yet however any is bold (I speak in foolishness), I am bold also. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? So am I. 23 Are they servants of Christ? (I speak as one beside himself) I am more so; in labors more abundantly, in prisons more abundantly, in stripes above measure, in deaths often. 24 Five times from the Jews I received forty stripes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I suffered shipwreck. I have been a night and a day in the deep. 26 I have been in travels often, perils of rivers, perils of robbers, perils from my countrymen, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the wilderness, perils in the sea, perils among false brothers; 27 in labor and travail, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, and in cold and nakedness. 28 Besides those things that are outside, there is that which presses on me daily, anxiety for all the assemblies. 29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is caused to stumble, and I don't burn with indignation?

 

[ClementofA]

1Tim.4

1. [10] For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Dan.12

1. [2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Young's Literal Translation
'And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life
age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.

Rotherham
and, many of the sleepers in the dusty ground, shall awake,—these, [shall be] to age-
abiding life, but, those, to reproach, and age-abiding abhorrence;

CLOT
2 From those sleeping in the soil of the ground many shall awake, these to eonian life
and these to reproach for eonian repulsion." 3 The intelligent shall warn as the warning
of the atmosphere, and those justifying many are as the stars for the eon and further."

The Hebrew word for eonian above is OLAM which is often used of limited durations
in the OT & other writings.

For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. (Lam.3:31)

Scholar's Corner: The Center for Bible studies in Christian Universalism

 

[ClementofA]

The answer is in the story of Lazarus and the rich man. If you read Luke 16:26 it describes how the rich man will never get out of hell.

Your answer is plainly in scripture.

Actually, everyone gets out of hell here:

"and the sea did give up those dead in it, and the death and the hell did give up the dead in them, and they were judged, each one according to their works;" (Rev.20:13)

 

[1stcenturylady]

The Spirit Can Not Be Killed.
Forget all your questioning and why nots and Grasp it is not going to change.
You have 2 offers on the plate. We must choose or the choice for us is already made.

Blessings
FCJ

Can you give scriptural proof that the spirit in us is eternal whether you are a Christian or not? I believe the born again spirit is eternal, but I'm really asking about the spirit of the unregenerate.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Hell is eternal, but it was created for Satan and his angels who are eternal beings, as are good angels. Even though the unregenerate human beings who are not saved will be cast into hell which burns forever, it must be noted that it is hell that burns forever, I don't think people do, but that's the question. Are our spirits immortal also? Or were our spirits mortal since Adam's sin, and only become immortal when the Holy Spirit enters us and makes us reborn?

There are many scriptures using analogies that depict total destruction of people, and only Satan, his angels, and hell are eternal.

Outer darkness, I believe, is where the damned spirits of the dead are before the resurrection and judgment. But, I don't think scripture is clear that they go on living once destroyed in the lake of fire to be tormented forever.

Can someone shed light by scripture to say whether a human's suffering is forever, or just Satan and His angels?

 

[dqhall]

God sent Jesus to alleviate suffering, not to set up a system of eternal suffering. Things that bring hell on earth will be brought to an end. Judgement is coming.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Actually, everyone gets out of hell here:

"and the sea did give up those dead in it, and the death and the hell did give up the dead in them, and they were judged, each one according to their works;" (Rev.20:13)

That is merely the resurrection of the dead BEFORE going to hell.

 

[Fish Catcher Jim]

Can you give scriptural proof that the spirit in us is eternal whether you are a Christian or not? I believe the born again spirit is eternal, but I'm really asking about the spirit of the unregenerate.

The destruction of the soul means separation from the life of God. Though living, the soul of the unbeliever has no connection whatsoever to God.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of humans; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end

John 5:28-29
Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out - those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned

The Bible does not teach us that the spirit or soul dies and disappears as if no more.

We have a Spirit which is life.
Everyone will stand before The great Judge.
Those Spirits with out the born Again Spirit Filled with the Blood of Jesus will be separated forever from God.
This is known as the second death.

The soul is part of the Spirit and remains intact .
Blessings
FCJ

 

[ClementofA]

I gave you God's Word on the matter. You are giving me man's word as rebuttal. You are not arguing me, you are arguing God. It's between you and Him, not you and me.

You posted English language opinions/translations of some fallible men re what the original Scriptures, which no longer exist by the way, said in the ancient languages of Greek, Hebrew, etc. You didn't post "God's Word".

Secondly, why should anyone believe those opinions/translations over others that disagree with them & don't contain the mis-translation/opinion "eternal"? Such, as, for examples:

Sometimes Eternal Isn’t Forever
Bible Translations That Do Not Teach Eternal Torment

Even Calvinist Matt Slick, amongst others who believe in endless tortures, admits the Greek word for "eternal" can refer to a time period that has an end, so is not eternal:

"This fact combined with the various uses of Greek words derived from the root "aion," are what the universalists use to attempt to show that "aionion" does not always mean "eternal" but can refer to a finite period of time."

"The truth is, they are right. It can be translated into a temporal sense as it is in Rom. 16:25: "Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages (aionios1) past." But the reason it is translated that way is because of context, and that is extremely important. Context determines meaning, as you will see later."

A look at the word "aionion" | carm

 

[1stcenturylady]

The destruction of the soul means separation from the life of God. Though living, the soul of the unbeliever has no connection whatsoever to God.

Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of humans; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end

John 5:28-29
Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out - those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned

The Bible does not teach us that the spirit or soul dies and disappears as if no more.

We have a Spirit which is life.
Everyone will stand before The great Judge.
Those Spirits with out the born Again Spirit Filled with the Blood of Jesus will be separated forever from God.
This is known as the second death.

The soul is part of the Spirit and remains intact .
Blessings
FCJ

I don't mean an assumption that the spirit of the damned is eternal, but scriptural proof.