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Jack Chick's View on Catholicism

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Only as YHWH reveals - seek GOD'S KINGDOM, read GOD'S WORD,
pray constantly to GOD , (every day, often),
STAY in the LIGHT, as HE trains and guides our steps.

Do not get curious even about carnality, let alone the devil's tricks.
Don't seek those things out, and never study them.
STAY IN THE LIGHT.
STAY abiding in JESUS, the GOOD SHEPHERD.
Be a normal sheep, (in CHRIST),
listening ONLY to JESUS, the GOOD SHEPHERD, HIS VOICE,
and
not to all the hired hands or bad guys.

Test everything before swallowing it- before believing it.
(this does not mean go test bad stuff already known to be bad, nor stuff from someplace bad or from someone bad)....

At all cost, in every way, get truth. In JESUS. Always, all day.
He says so.
He shows us.
He is faithful and true.

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QUOTE= Galatians 4: Roman Catholic "Saints" Were No Saints![/QUOTE

QUOTE= Galatians 4: Satan's Masterpiece: The Catholic Mass is Witchcraft[/QUOTE

COOL REVELATION of GOD , from GALATIANS
inspired and BREATHED by GOD.

Similar to the catholic chronicles , an expose' of the deception internal to anti-bible doctrines.

Jack Chick's View on Catholicism

. But there is very good evidence that the Mass (or Divine Liturgy) has been celebrated in a form very similar to that done currently for centuries (Yeah, yeah, I hear you folks in the background muttering about the Tridentine Mass and the Novus Ordo . . . .:D) But we also have very good evidence that what is called "Wiccan" was pretty much made up in the 19th Century as a copy of the Mass.

The author gets the influence precisely backwards.
 
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Should I delete my entire post?
If you want to. Editing it was fine, I think.
Were they deceived by Churchianity?
Worldwide there are deceptions beyond being able to count them.
Everywhere.

What one person calls churchianity might in africa be witchdoctors,
or in some countries state run churches,
and somewhere else, something else...
 
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Are you really going to go through his life with a fine toothed comb for each and every miracle? Just because it isn't in the Bible doesn't mean that a gift is not from God. I've heard of women lifting up cars to get to their trapped baby. Yes, adrenaline, but even that is God given.

Question: There has been increasing visibility of "stigmata." Is this of God?

. It would not be glorifying to Christ for us to bleed like He did on the cross and feel the pain He endured for us. That would in fact detract from His finished work on the cross. We are to take up the cross and follow Him, bear in our bodies the marks of Christ and fill up that which is lacking in the suffering of His body . . . but all of these verses refer to the trials and suffering that come upon us for His name's sake as we stand true to Him as His followers--not literal bleeding from the palms.
 
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Stigmata occur in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches because we encourage holiness, a continued growth in the Holy Spirit, a constant Theosis, and so on. I've seen the "holiness," etc. of Protestant people--even Holiness Pentecostals. Never have I seen ONE that I could compare with Padre Pio or St. Francis. When the Protestant churches begin producing authentic stigmatics, then I will argue with you on the subject.

He talked about the sacraments being salvation.
 
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He talked about the sacraments being salvation.
Right? And no one has ever shown true signs of Jesus in stigm&&&, not any catholics, not any protestants, at all, ever.
Only a lot of idolatery and false teachings propped up with the false signs and wonders
as the Bible says .
 
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What do you think of his views he had on the Roman Catholic Church? Not only what you think, but WHY?

I will say that I believe Constantine brought much into the church that shouldn't have been in there, but I think Roman Catholics can still be saved as long as they accept Jesus as the Savior of their sin.

For those of you who don't know who Jack Chick was and his views, here's some links:

Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Last Rites
Papa
Why Is Mary Crying?
I didn't check out the links, but remember reading a lot of Chick tracts a long time ago, and enjoying them, especially the first ones. I may have questioned some of the later ones. He also put out some comic book size editions, some of which I kept. One was on a man that was a priest and then renounced it. I believe I remember that man actually speaking at the Bible college I attended from 1976-79. Seems he was a great testimony, but then that testimony was challenged and attacked. So I don't remember all of Chick's views on the RCC, but think he was pretty accurate generally. Christians in the RCC certainly exist, but they are the exception to the rule. They usually are not all that aware of what the RCC teaches, and are actually in disagreement with some of the teachings and usually aren't even aware of it. Many are just loyal to the long traditions, history, and don't want to risk losing salvation by leaving that church.
 
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Christians in the RCC certainly exist, but they are the exception to the rule.
I am constantly amazed at the number of Protestants who have the God given ability of reading the hearts of people they have never met.
 
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I am constantly amazed at the number of Protestants who have the God given ability of reading the hearts of people they have never met.
You don't have to "read the heart," just know and understand what the Bible says, and hear what the Catholic says, and hear that it is not in agreement with what the Bible says one must believe and do in order to become a Christian.
 
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You don't have to "read the heart," just know and understand what the Bible says, and hear what the Catholic says, and hear that it is not in agreement with what the Bible says one must believe and do in order to become a Christian.

Right, in other words, actually read the Bible. COOL! TRUTH !
SIMPLE !
I can guarantee that both of you will disagree on how to interpret many passages in the Bible, yet you both feel justified in dismissing how Catholics interpret Scripture.
 
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While I don't give too much credence to you tube, Padre Pio was saved. He was operating in the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

For instance, there were many times that people would go to him for confession, and HE would tell them their sins. (That would be the word of knowledge). He did this many times.

People who had started rebuilding their lives after World War I, began to see in Padre Pio a symbol of hope. Those close to him attest that he began to manifest several spiritual gifts, including the gifts of healing, bilocation, levitation, prophecy, miracles, extraordinary abstinence from both sleep and nourishment (one account states that Padre Agostino recorded one instance in which Padre Pio was able to subsist for at least 20 days at Verafeno on only the Eucharist without any other nourishment), the ability to read hearts, the gift of tongues, the gift of conversions, and the fragrance from his wounds. (Wikipedia)

Now, with those kinds of things going on, we can be sure that he was saved, and filled with the Holy Spirit.

Are bilocation and levitation gifts of the Holy Spirit? Those are magic tricks and of the enemy.

What does the Bible say about confession of sin to a priest?

The ability to forgive sins is God’s and His alone (Isaiah 43:25). The better understanding of John 20:23 is that the apostles were given the responsibility of declaring with utmost certainty the terms on which God would forgive sins. As the church was being founded, the apostles declared that those who believed the gospel were forgiven (Acts 16:31) and those who did not obey the gospel faced judgment (2 Thessalonians 1:8; 1 Peter 4:17). As the apostles proclaimed salvation in Christ (Acts 10:43) and exercised church discipline (1 Corinthians 5:4–5), they were wielding the authority Christ had given them.

Again, the concept of confession of sin to a priest is nowhere taught in Scripture. We are to confess our sins to God (1 John 1:9). As New Covenant believers, we do not need mediators between us and God. We can go to God directly because of Jesus’ sacrifice for us. First Timothy 2:5 says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
 
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