Question on Noah's Ark

[AV1611VET]

Obviously not, but they were praying together before they got divorce,....and here we are, no longer together

See my above response to Sarah.

 

[AV1611VET]

Families that eat pizza together, stay together. Families that are not together, don't eat pizza together. Therefore pizza is holding families together.

Cute ... real cute.

 

[JD16]

And I'll bet at some point, they stopped praying together long before divorce proceedings got started ... no?

I've know of cases that are quite the opposite, but I'm sure that you are right in some cases too.

 

[Skreeper]

Cute ... real cute.

That's your logic, not mine. I just switched praying for pizza.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've know of cases that are quite the opposite,

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's your logic, not mine. I just switched praying for pizza.

That's the world for you.

Science at its best.

Why waste time praying, when you can be eating a pizza ... right?

 

[JD16]

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

If you are, then I'm the pope

 

[PsychoSarah]

Sarah, please answer that.

I'll bet you'll say it's Yahweh, won't you?

Then I'll end up getting moderated for saying what I think of that name.

Christian god works just fine, a rose by any other name is still a rose, eh?

 

[pitabread]

Divorce rates among Christians in the United States is HIGHER than among the atheists in the same country.

Which of course is hardly surprising given the whole "sex before marriage is a sin" nonsense that gets promoted.

 

[Skreeper]

That's the world for you.

Science at its best.

Why waste time praying, when you can be eating a pizza ... right?

Eating pizza has a measurable effect so I agree.

 

[pitabread]

Families that eat pizza together, stay together. Families that are not together, don't eat pizza together. Therefore pizza is holding families together.

I can vouch for this.

pizza > prayer

 

[PsychoSarah]

That's the world for you.

Science at its best.

Why waste time praying, when you can be eating a pizza ... right?

Well, pizza 100% exists, deities have a maybe on existence. Idk, seems logical that a person would rather eat pizza than try to get close to a being that may or may not exist. Praying is the blindest of dates; you don't even know if the other person can show up, will show up, and might even be able to tell they're already there!

 

[HitchSlap]

Let's not be sophomoric.
I've been in Vegas 3 times and to the Grand Canyon twice; once on the ground and once in an aircraft.
Anything else you want to comment on that you know nothing about?

Water does not flow up hill at GC.

Eric Hovind is an idiot. I advise getting your science from actual scientists, not one year bible school campers.

 

[KWCrazy]

Water does not flow up hill at GC.
Eric Hovind is an idiot. I advise getting your science from actual scientists, not one year bible school campers.

I didn't reference Hovind. I referenced the elevation. I've stood on the rim at 5,000 feet and realized there was absolutely no way a river would ever run over those rocks unless the river was over 10,000 feet deep. Therefore, the Colorado river did not carve the canyon. As for flood run-off, no, it wouldn't go straight. It wouldn't rush off because there was no place for it to go unless there was a sudden rift in the sea which caused a rapid drainage. Not sure how well an ark would have fared under that scenario, though.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It works 100% when the procedure is followed.

Not to mention that God's answer to many if not most prayers is.....no.

 

[Speedwell]

I didn't reference Hovind. I referenced the elevation. I've stood on the rim at 5,000 feet and realized there was absolutely no way a river would ever run over those rocks unless the river was over 10,000 feet deep. Therefore, the Colorado river did not carve the canyon. As for flood run-off, no, it wouldn't go straight. It wouldn't rush off because there was no place for it to go unless there was a sudden rift in the sea which caused a rapid drainage. Not sure how well an ark would have fared under that scenario, though.

How do you know they were always that high?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No, your procedure is just a method of accepting your lot in life. Nothing has changed, you're just assuming that, whatever happens, it's for the best.

Here's a fabulous example of praying for something that would be beneficial to the individual 100% of the time (if the deity you believe in exists and demands belief for a positive afterlife): Praying for belief. I have prayed for belief since I was 13. That makes for almost 9 years of praying a minimum of once a week for belief, and no result. So, is the best thing for me going to hell?

You will be called to belief later, at a time of God's choosing, not yours.

 

[Skreeper]

You will be called to belief later, at a time of God's choosing, not yours.

So it's not really our fault for being unbelievers then if God gets to decide if and when I start to believe in him.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That leaves the verse you cited.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

I mean, you really see untold events and ages in there leaving the planet in ruin and then restored??

That's the way I read it, yes. Countless periods of ruin/restoration, Genesis One being the latest recorded, although there may have been a restoration after the flood as well. The wording of the "rainbow covenant" suggests that Noah's flood wasn't the only such event in history. In fact Gen 1:2 reads like the aftermath of a sizable flood event.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So it's not really our fault for being unbelievers then if God gets to decide if and when I start to believe in him.

True. See John 6:44.