Hello Keystone pipeline

[Always in His Presence]

Happy dance!!

 

[roamer_1]

YAY!

 

[GondwanaLand]

Happy dance!!

Meanwhile, a massive oil spill in North Dakota is still not cleaned up 3 and a half years later, and may not ever be. Massive 2013 oil spill in North Dakota still not cleaned up

And that's one that actually got reported - North Dakota alone hid more than 300 oil spills over just two years: https://resistmedia.org/2016/11/02/standing-rock-north-dakota-hid-nearly-300-oil-spills-public/

Hooray for yet another pipeline to bust open and ruin peoples' land and ecosystems (and possibly not even report it to the public!!)! Huzzah!

 

[Arcangl86]

For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

 

[Rajni]

For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

24 hours later and not a peep.
Maybe they got new information and concluded it wasn't such a good thing after all.


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[Kiterius]

Interested in knowing why this gets filed under "American Politics."

 

[Hank77]

Because it is a political issue?

 

[GondwanaLand]

Interested in knowing why this gets filed under "American Politics."

Because it's a political issue, and it happens to be in America.......

 

[bobo_mcpherson]

Happy dance!!

Indeed! And when it brings a couple dozen temporary construction jobs to the USA and allows Canada to get their extremely dirty oil to the Gulf so they can sell it elsewhere America is going to be 50% of the way to GREATNESS again!

 

[bobo_mcpherson]

Interested in knowing why this gets filed under "American Politics."

Because our American President promise greatness and bringing the jobs back to the USA. And the first step in doing that is helping to ensure a couple dozen temporary jobs are created in the USA and Canada's ability to sell extremely dirty, polluting and awful fuel on the global markets shall not be infringed!

Hallelujah!

 

[Paradoxum]

I'm not sure it's so bad. I'm liberal, but I think energy security is important.

 

[Kiterius]

Because it's a political issue, and it happens to be in America.......

*ahem* Not exclusively.

 

[GondwanaLand]

I'm not sure it's so bad. I'm liberal, but I think energy security is important.

You might have a point, if Keystone XL improved our energy security. But it doesn't.

Why the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline doesn't provide the U.S. with energy security

http://priceofoil.org/content/uploads/2011/10/Keystone-Energy-Security-Fact-Sheet-10-2011-1.pdf

 

[GondwanaLand]

*ahem* Not exclusively.

*Ahem* sorry but yes, Trump's go-ahead on construction of Keystone XL and DAPL in the US is indeed exclusively an American thing. That the companies involved happen to be based in Canada does not make a thread about Trump's decision anything but American.

 

[Kiterius]

*Ahem* sorry but yes, Trump's go-ahead on construction of Keystone XL and DAPL in the US is indeed exclusively an American thing. That the companies involved happen to be based in Canada does not make a thread about Trump's decision anything but American.

The pipeline is not solely an American issue. To suggest that it is is but American arrogance.

 

[roamer_1]

For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

Cheaper gas, more jobs, more refineries (which is even more jobs), and doing business with Canada instead of Arabs... It's all good.

 

[USincognito]

For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

Oh come now. Canada selling tar sand oil to China makes America great again.

 

[JGG]

For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

I was just going to ask this.

 

[JGG]

Cheaper gas

Not necessarily. Once Trump gets rid of NAFTA Canada can raise their prices again.

more jobs

Yeah, but only temporary ones, and will be taking jobs away from truckers.

more refineries (which is even more jobs)

Also possible with truckers.

and doing business with Canada instead of Arabs... It's all good.

Why are Canadians preferable to Arabs?

 

[roamer_1]

Not necessarily. Once Trump gets rid of NAFTA Canada can raise their prices again.

oh baloney. It is going to be cheaper to ship crude from Canada instead of half way around the world.

Yeah, but only temporary ones, and will be taking jobs away from truckers.

So what? Infrastructure jobs are always 'temporary'... other than maintenance crews and depots, and supporting towns, and refineries... And those jobs are nothing to sneeze at.

Also possible with truckers.

Well, make your mind up. Are the truckers going to lose their jobs or not?
and not by a longshot, btw. rail might - MIGHT- keep up with that pipe, but trucks sure wont. If rail could keep up, why wouldn't they just ship by existing rail? Why pipe halfway across the continent just to stop smack-dab in the middle of nowhere?

Why are Canadians preferable to Arabs?

Really?