A flat earth, and Noah's Ark.

[squirrel123]

Both cities are in the Southern Hemisphere so a direct flight between them would not go over the North Pole or even leave the Southern Hemisphere. In my post #238 the distance is 5200 miles making a flight time of 9 or 10 hours quite reasonable.

Which flat-earth maps are you using? Because on the common, circular ones, they're on opposite sides of the North pole.

(Your distance of 5200 miles is the distance between them on a globe-earth)

Nice try at a quick way out, though

 

[JackRT]

I think he's just trolling.

Anyway, anyone who is even slightly informed (Or who has followed the story around MH370) knows that very few airliner are actually tracked via GPS. They are tracked via land-based radar, which is why it falls off over the open ocean. Since MH370, more and more airlines are looking into switching to full-time GPS tracking, though...

In an earlier post I mentioned my daughters recent flight from Toronto to Hong Kong on a polar great circle route. It was an Air Canada flight and I was able to track it on my computer by GPS at 5 minute intervals --- latitude, longitude, altitude and speed. Much of that flight was over the Arctic Ocean.

 

[JackRT]

Which flat-earth maps are you using? Because on the common, circular ones, they're on opposite sides of the North pole.

(Your distance of 5200 miles is the distance between them on a globe-earth)

Nice try at a quick way out, though

Just looked at your link. That flat earth projection introduces even more distortion. A flat earth projection based on the South Pole would be equally distorted.

 

[squirrel123]

In an earlier post I mentioned my daughters recent flight from Toronto to Hong Kong on a polar great circle route. It was an Air Canada flight and I was able to track it on my computer by GPS at 5 minute intervals --- latitude, longitude, altitude and speed. Much of that flight was over the Arctic Ocean.

Right. So clearly she use one of the airlines that have already implemented real-time gps tracking. That doesn't change anything.

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[squirrel123]

Just looked at your link. That flat earth projection introduces even more distortion. A flat earth projection based on the South Pole would be equally distorted.

Exactly.

Any flat-projection of the earth (even the more conventional maps) are grossly distorted. The one with the North pole in the middle and Antarctica as a wall is just the most convenient one for Northern hemisphere people, because the distortion isn't so obvious to them. It's blinding obvious to us, down here, though.

(Plus the North pole doesn't have the same convenient glaciers, that can so easily be passed off as a wall in photos...)

 

[JackRT]

Right. So clearly she use one of the airlines that have already implemented real-time gps tracking. That doesn't change anything.

But it does refute JacksBratt's notion that there is no over ocean GPS coverage.

 

[JacksBratt]

squirrel 123 asked "On a flat-earth map - how far is Perth from Johannesburg, along the shortest (most direct) route?"

On a globe the direct distance is just under 5200 miles. On a flat map such as a Mercator Projection the distance would appear somewhat longer due to increasing distortion as you get further from the equator.



That is rubbish. The GPS system covers the entire globe not just over land and adjacent waters. Jack, you keep making these ridiculous claims when you can easily verify these things for yourself. Do you really want to know the truth?

No Offense, but one Jack to another, I have investigated this and there are sites that track air traffic, all over the world. They are tracked with GPS. And, if you track some in the southern hemisphere, they vanish, disappear, and then reappear when they are near their destination. I have seen this first hand.
The flight and icon for the plane.....poof, no longer on the map. But, later, on schedule, they reappear near the land and their destination.

 

[JackRT]

(Plus the North pole doesn't have the same convenient glaciers, that can so easily be passed off as a wall in photos...)

No it doesn't and at the present rate of global warming there likely will not not even be any summer ice over the Arctic Ocean. On Dec 22 the temperature at the North Pole was 30C above normal!

 

[JackRT]

I have seen this first hand.
The flight and icon for the plane.....poof, no longer on the map. But, later, on schedule, they reappear near the land and their destination.

I do not know why that would be but it is not because GPS is not available over those ocean areas.

 

[JacksBratt]

I do not know why that would be but it is not because GPS is not available over those ocean areas.

I don't know why that would be either.

 

[JacksBratt]

No it doesn't and at the present rate of global warming there likely will not not even be any summer ice over the Arctic Ocean. On Dec 22 the temperature at the North Pole was 30C above normal!

Is this thread going to branch to yet another topic of lies......the whole idea that God is not in control and a gas that takes up 0.040% of our atmosphere is going to melt the whole arctic circle???

Hmmm, in 1970's they told me that there was an energy crisis...what happened to that? Now, it's not that we don't have the energy but they want us to stop using it because there is so much of it left that if we burn it all we will melt the earth with the production of CO2.....

I don't believe any of it. Time will show this to be another rich mans trick to take more money from the middle class until it's gone.

 

[JackRT]

Just for you!!!

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Goatee]

Really?

You think that announcing to the world that they had solid proof that we have been wrong for 500 years and the earth is in fact flat, would have absolutely no adverse reaction from the public?

Seriously?

Rubbish?

Exactly.

 

[Goatee]

If you look at the flight paths of planes doing this sort of route, they go off GPS at a certain point over the ocean and then they regain GPS logs just before their destination. Why is that?
Do they actually fly the path you and I believe?
This is another area that I am looking in to. I have seen videos of guys tracking flights and they fly bizarre flight paths if the earth was a globe but straight lines on the perceived flat earth model.

There are things that don't make sense to me for both models.

Some say that GPS is not a satellite based positioning system, even though we are told that it is. Some emergency landings have been made where the emergency, on a globe earth would have been longer than the normal original path would have been, that is if the earth was a globe..

As for the Safari's over Antarctica is perfectly possible as Admiral Byrd stated there is a lot of land mass past the ice wall. Enough to be as large or larger than the USA.

Seems to me that there are many people who are willing to believe anything!

 

[Goatee]

I don't have time right now as I am at work.

Remember, this is an area that is ambiguous to me. I am not sold on the flat earth idea but I am searching for truth.

One thing I have decided is that I do not trust anything from NASA.

One thing I have decided is that I do not trust anything from people who believe in a 6k flat earth!

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Goatee]

Here's another question of mine>

Job 1:7

Why did the devil say that he walked up and down in the earth?

To get a pale of water?