Why do people like Seventh-day Adventist and Adventist doctrine?

[stuart lawrence]

2Ti_1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Answer the question.

You have fear now though don't you. Ut is testimony to not well thought out beliefs

 

[stuart lawrence]

All the sda man has to do is answer a simple question to get a detailed answer to the question he craves to be answered.
So why doesn't he answer it??""?

 

[stuart lawrence]

2Ti_1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Answer the question.

We all know why you are afraid to answer the question. People aren't stupid!

 

[PROPHECYKID]

Lets assume you were raised by loving parents. When you broke their rules as a child, between the time you did so and you said sorry to them for transgressing their rules were you in danger of them throwing you out of the family home?

Here is the problem with this analogy. See, sin separates us from God. Unless sin is removed there will be a problem. That is a spiritual phenomenon and the child disobeying the rules of the parent cannot equate to when we sin. So its not as easy as your analogy suggests. We do not know what is the extent to which sins that are unrepentant can be fatal. If a Christian who lives up to the principles of God has a minute of weakness, does something wrong and immediately dies for some reason would they be lost? I won't like to think so and if God knowing his sheep knows that this individual would have repented a bit later when convicted of the wrongdoing then why would he be lost. We can have opinions on this as I have just shared but there is nothing totally conclusive one way or the other. That's different from someone who has no regard for God's law and is committing sin.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

I think it I plain for all to see an sda member I afraid to answer a dimple question and it I obvious why. He has been told as soon as he answers it he will get a full response to the question he desperately wants answered

No its not. i have seen this go down already. Its pretty much a "you answer my question", "no you answer first" scenario. Somebody could also say that you are afraid to answer the question as well.

 

[stuart lawrence]

No its not. i have seen this go down already. Its pretty much a "you answer my question", "no you answer first" scenario. Somebody could also say that you are afraid to answer the question as well.

I have twice stated I will FULLY respond to his question if he first answers my question relating to the subject.
You will all be able to see if I keep my word IF he answers the question

 

[mmksparbud]

Because you are afraid to answer the question I asked and I want it answered, simple---and just to prove that you are not reading very thoroughly---I am not a man. And as a woman, I am very bulldoggish and will hang on with my bare teeth and when I ask a question I want an answer--just ask my husband. We can keep this up till Jesus comes at which point, we both get our questions answered.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Here is the problem with this analogy. See, sin separates us from God. Unless sin is removed there will be a problem. That is a spiritual phenomenon and the child disobeying the rules of the parent cannot equate to when we sin. So its not as easy as your analogy suggests. We do not know what is the extent to which sins that are unrepentant can be fatal. If a Christian who lives up to the principles of God has a minute of weakness, does something wrong and immediately dies for some reason would they be lost? I won't like to think so and if God knowing his sheep knows that this individual would have repented a bit later when convicted of the wrongdoing then why would he be lost. We can have opinions on this as I have just shared but there is nothing totally conclusive one way or the other. That's different from someone who has no regard for God's law and is committing sin.

Would you agree, sin can only seperate us from God through the law?
For without the law sin is dead rom7:8

 

[stuart lawrence]

Because you are afraid to answer the question I asked and I want it answered, simple---and just to prove that you are not reading very thoroughly---I am not a man. And as a woman, I am very bulldoggish and will hang on with my bare teeth and when I ask a question I want an answer--just ask my husband. We can keep this up till Jesus comes at which point, we both get our questions answered.

You have already proved you are afraid to answer the question,. If you weren't, you would have quickly answered it, for i promised you, if you did your question to me would receive a detailed response. If I was you I would forget it rather Tha carry on. It doesn't reflect well on you as we all know why you refuse to answer

 

[stuart lawrence]

If anyone posts to me pls be patient waiting for response my internet keeps cutting out

 

[mmksparbud]

You have already proved you are afraid to answer the question,. If you weren't, you would have quickly answered it, for i promised you, if you did your question to me would receive a detailed response. If I was you I would forget it rather Tha carry on. It doesn't reflect well on you as we all know why you refuse to answer

Whatever you say---I still await an answer from a very stubborn man to an equally stubborn woman--so----we both wait to see who gives in first, I can guarantee it will not be me. And I don't thst the whole of the universe is watching. n I asked a question, answer it and we can move on. Personally, I don't think anybody is watching as it is pretty boring and everyone has moved on to bigger and better things as everyone knows the answer to both in their own minds anyway.

 

[stuart lawrence]

Whatever you say---I still await an answer from a very stubborn man to an equally stubborn woman--so----we both wait to see who gives in first, I can guarantee it will not be me. And I don't thst the whole of the universe is watching. n I asked a question, answer it and we can move on. Personally, I don't think anybody is watching as it is pretty boring and everyone has moved on to bigger and better things as everyone knows the answer to both in their own minds anyway.

The reason you refuse to answer my question is because you fear it may prove your belief false.
Now if you want to obey the TC you should admit Tha is the truth, but will you?

 

[stuart lawrence]

A good example of people relentlessly stating:
You must obey the TC

Who either does not know what that entails, or, chooses to break Gods laws whenever they want to

 

[stuart lawrence]

Whatever you say---I still await an answer from a very stubborn man to an equally stubborn woman--so----we both wait to see who gives in first, I can guarantee it will not be me. And I don't thst the whole of the universe is watching. n I asked a question, answer it and we can move on. Personally, I don't think anybody is watching as it is pretty boring and everyone has moved on to bigger and better things as everyone knows the answer to both in their own minds anyway.

You do believe Paul is a false apostle don't you? Only he kept stating the christian is not under law and dies to the law and you take issue with that

 

[rturner76]

what is the question(s)? I'll answer

 

[mmksparbud]

The reason you refuse to answer my question is because you fear it may prove your belief false.
Now if you want to obey the TC you should admit Tha is the truth, but will you?

A good example of people relentlessly stating:
You must obey the TC

Who either does not know what that entails, or, chooses to break Gods laws whenever they want to

You are seriously confused---you say we keep the law and yet you accuse us of breaking the law.
So obviously you can't comprehend that the law does not save, Jesus does. But you are the one that seems to think we can break the law of God whenever we want and still believe you will be saved for you have not refuted that statement. We refute your statement that we are saved by works, but you do not refute your statement that you are saved even as an unrepentant sinner. So, since even unrepentant sinners get to go to be with Jesus, do you believe that even Satan will?

 

[stuart lawrence]

what is the question(s)? I'll answer

Between the time you transgressed your parents rules and said you were sorry for going so, were you I danger of being evicted from the family home?
This assumes you were raised by loving parents

 

[stuart lawrence]

You are seriously confused---you say we keep the law and yet you accuse us of breaking the law.
So obviously you can't comprehend that the law does not save, Jesus does. But you are the one that seems to think we can break the law of God whenever we want and still believe you will be saved for you have not refuted that statement. We refute your statement that we are saved by works, but you do not refute your statement that you are saved even as an unrepentant sinner. So, since even unrepentant sinners get to go to be with Jesus, do you believe that even Satan will?

Oh I'm not confused, you keep parts of the letter of the law, PARTS.
As we cannot progress the discussion how could you know what I believe.
You believe you are saved by grace and will attain heaven IF you obey the TC

 

[stuart lawrence]

You are seriously confused---you say we keep the law and yet you accuse us of breaking the law.
So obviously you can't comprehend that the law does not save, Jesus does. But you are the one that seems to think we can break the law of God whenever we want and still believe you will be saved for you have not refuted that statement. We refute your statement that we are saved by works, but you do not refute your statement that you are saved even as an unrepentant sinner. So, since even unrepentant sinners get to go to be with Jesus, do you believe that even Satan will?

You also believe you are under law. You should have learnt at beginners class if you are under the law you are under a law of righteousness

 

[mmksparbud]

You do believe Paul is a false apostle don't you? Only he kept stating the christian is not under law and dies to the law and you take issue with that

Paul a false apostle??? Boy, you really do not comprehend. I love Paul.
I can't find where he said that an unrepentant sinner (transgressor of God's law) will still be saved. So unless he said that, you are the one that does not believe him. I do not take issue with what Paul says, just with what you say. Answer the question--Ohm, I forgot, your refusal to refute it is your answer. Unrepentant sinners are saved--you just can't find where that is stated, yet, keep looking.