"Racist" posters on the Univ of MD campus

[Radrook]

Nonsense IMO.

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[LadyCrosstalk]

I think if you answer the questions, what on earth is threatening the very existence of those people like the ones pictured on the left poster? and, what solutions do the alt right group propose to mitigate these perceived threats?, then it's easier to determine if it is racist.

I think they are likely threatened by globalism because they understand that Caucasians are only about 10% of the world's population (even though Caucasians possess a majority of the world's wealth). That is why raising any kind of racism is stupid--because it always begets more racism as a result.

That having been said, fear of being in a minority group is rational, because, over the millennia, being in a minority group (whether based on race or not) often resulted in being robbed and/or killed or subjugated. That is the rational basis of the fear of native Europeans toward Muslim refugees. It should be noted that they are BOTH Caucasians (different "sub-racial" groups of Semitic vs. Hamitic). Islamism is a political ideology that does not permit "peaceful co-existence" between Muslims and all others, but rather that, when Islam takes a majority position in any culture, discrimination and worse is inflicted upon those who are not Muslim. That has been the history of Islam since its inception. It has been estimated that Islamism exceeds even the genocide of the Communists against their own people. (By the way, you can see an example of hatred based on ideology, in the over-the-top, animosity that many liberals appear to have for conservatives).

A number of scholars have arrived at a figure of 270 million non-Muslims killed in Africa, the Middle East and Southern Europe by Islamists. Recently, after studying the historical accounts, Indian scholars have arrived at a figure of 400 million Hindus killed by Islamists on the Indian sub-continent over the five centuries after the rise of Islam.

 

[LadyCrosstalk]

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This is propaganda generated by the globalists. They label resistance to being conquered by Islamic hordes (who often clearly announce a preference against the long-standing system of laws preferred by native Europeans) as "racism" when it is clearly not racism.

 

[Radrook]

This is propaganda generated by the globalists. They label resistance to being conquered by Islamic hordes (who often clearly announce a preference against the long-standing system of laws preferred by native Europeans) as "racism" when it is clearly not racism.

My personal observation's and experiences confirm a drastic increase in racism and bigotry since trump was elected..

 

[archer75]

It's too bad that the word "racism" has been so abused.

Now certain people with nothing to occupy their minds get a kick out of hanging "racism" on everything.

And then, if something can be shown not to be exactly "racist", it's assumed to be fine.

Funny how in all the talk about immigrants and refugees, no one brings up the causes of the destabilization of that region.

 

[paul becke]

There is nothing particularly racist or threatening about the posters themselves. Though no doubt there are many who will read there own racism into them.

Until people are willing to give up their race politics and just view people as people, regardless of race or nationality, there will be no end of "the stupid".

From where I stand, it seems that there are quite a few folks that view racism as their only reason to exist.

What are you talking about !? Those two on the left look almost like caricatures of Hitler's beloved, putatively Aryan 'ubermensch'? Among which, of course, Hitler, himself, with his brown hair and brown eyes, did not figure, even in a less exaggerated way.

 

[LadyCrosstalk]

My personal observation's and experiences confirm a drastic increase in racism and bigotry since trump was elected..

I would posit that the resentment came first and Trump's election just brought it out into the open. A great many of the same people voted for Obama twice. It is not racism if it is based on a realistic fear of those who are prejudiced against Caucasians. It is up to each ethnic community to put down racism and bigotry in their midst. Americans have an admirable record of putting down bigotry against all but African-Americans, who were not permitted to assimilate, to any degree, into the general American culture--as other ethnic minorities did. At one time, there was a great deal of bigotry expressed toward Irish-Americans but that faded over time with assimilation. It is a national tragedy that African-Americans have never assimilated to any real extent.

Intermarriage is an essential part of assimilation. My great-great grandfather was enraged by my great grandmother's announcement that she would be marrying an Irish-American husband (they were all Roman Catholics so there was no religious barrier there). My great-great grandfather reportedly shouted, "Don't you know that all Irishmen are drunkards and brawlers?" She married him anyway (her father did not attend the wedding). And his descendants laugh about the lunacy of his prejudices.

 

[LadyCrosstalk]

What are you talking about !? Those two on the left look almost like caricatures of Hitler's beloved, putatively Aryan 'ubermensch'? Among which, of course, Hitler, himself, with his brown hair and brown eyes, did not figure, even in a less exaggerated way.

Since it was done anonymously, it is difficult to determine the motives of those doing the posters. Does the group in question verify that they are a "white supremacist" group and did they, in fact, post the offending posters?

 

[Radrook]

I would posit that the resentment came first and Trump's election just brought it out into the open. A great many of the same people voted for Obama twice. It is not racism if it is based on a realistic fear of those who are prejudiced against Caucasians. It is up to each ethnic community to put down racism and bigotry in their midst. Americans have an admirable record of putting down bigotry against all but African-Americans, who were not permitted to assimilate, to any degree, into the general American culture--as other ethnic minorities did. At one time, there was a great deal of bigotry expressed toward Irish-Americans but that faded over time with assimilation. It is a national tragedy that African-Americans have never assimilated to any real extent.

Intermarriage is an essential part of assimilation. My great-great grandfather was enraged by my great grandmother's announcement that she would be marrying an Irish-American husband (they were all Roman Catholics so there was no religious barrier there). My great-great grandfather reportedly shouted, "Don't you know that all Irishmen are drunkards and brawlers?" She married him anyway (her father did not attend the wedding). And his descendants laugh about the lunacy of his prejudices.

Of course the animosity was latently dormant. No one is claiming otherwise.

BTW
Why would Argentineans, who are mostly of Spaniard Italian descent, southern Brazilians who are of German descent and Uruguayans who are of mostly Spaniard descent and millions of other Latinos of European descent be prejudiced against Caucasians when they themselves are Caucasians?.

Now if you are talking about Mestizo immigrants from Mexico and Central America who have suffered discrimination in the Southwest, then yes, they look upon Anglo Americans with apprehension. However, it isn't racially based but based on experiences they have had.

Perhaps you are extrapolating the intense RACIALLY-based animosity between Anglo Americans and African Americans to Latinos and Anglo Americans. That RACIAL animosity you imagine just doesn't exist.
It is more of a cultural thing and is mostly felt from the Anglo side towards the Latino side.

As for assimilation. I think that African Americans have assimilated culturally very well to the Anglo American expectations. In fact, they are viewed with far more tolerance in the USA than Latinos are. treated with far more respect, and usually side with Anglo Americans against Latino immigration issues. Also, you see far more African American Anglo American intermarriage than you do Latino Anglo American intermarriage. So if indeed assimilation is via marriage as you claim, then they should have assimilated long ago at that rate. After all, you share the same culture and the same one language mentality as well as the same USA superiority perspectives.

In contrast the Latino community doesn't relinquish its Latino roots and never will.
So that barrier which shows no sign of abating is a major issue for Anglo Americans and African Americans who consider it an un-American attitude that needs to be viewed with contempt and needs to be stamped out. That's where your Trump comes in.

 

[LadyCrosstalk]

Of course the animosity was latently dormant. No one is claiming otherwise.

BTW
Why would Argentineans, who are mostly of Spaniard Italian descent, southern Brazilians who are of German descent and Uruguayans who are of mostly Spaniard descent and millions of other Latinos of European descent be prejudiced against Caucasians when they themselves are Caucasians?.

Now if you are talking about Mestizo immigrants from Mexico and Central America who have suffered discrimination in the Southwest, then yes, they look upon Anglo Americans with apprehension. However, it isn't racially based but based on experiences they have had.

Perhaps you are extrapolating the intense RACIALLY-based animosity between Anglo Americans and African Americans to Latinos and Anglo Americans. That RACIAL animosity you imagine just doesn't exist.
It is more of a cultural thing and is mostly felt from the Anglo side towards the Latino side.

As for assimilation. I think that African Americans have assimilated culturally very well to the Anglo American expectations. In fact, they are viewed with far more tolerance in the USA than Latinos are. treated with far more respect, and usually side with Anglo Americans against Latino immigration issues. Also, you see far more African American Anglo American intermarriage than you do Latino Anglo American intermarriage. So if indeed assimilation is via marriage as you claim, then they should have assimilated long ago at that rate. After all, you share the same culture and the same one language mentality as well as the same USA superiority perspectives.

In contrast the Latino community doesn't relinquish its Latino roots and never will.
So that barrier which shows no sign of abating is a major issue for Anglo Americans and African Americans who consider it an un-American attitude that needs to be viewed with contempt and needs to be stamped out. That's where your Trump comes in.

Mestizos actually face discrimination throughout Mexico, central and South America. European descendants control the power in those areas and they are prejudiced against those of "mixed-race" backgrounds.

I would disagree that Caucasians and African-Americans have had any kind of background of intermarriage or that it exceeds that of Anglo-Americans with those of Hispanic descent. My cousin married a first generation Mexican-American and there was no lack of acceptance from either side. Immigration without assimilation is invasion. Assimilation takes time and African-American assimilation has taken much longer than it should have because of racial barriers.

Another group that has ALWAYS resisted assimilation (and whose assimilation has been fought against as well) are the Jews. Historically, they have refused to assimilate and their confinement in Jewish ghettos was another part of the lack of assimilation.

 

[Marvin Knox]

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That's it?

Come now.

I'll see you that drivel and raise you a dozen slain policemen and numerous riots across the nation that Obama has (supposedly) "emboldened" to be carried out.

That is if we simply must blame every racist tendency displayed in every black, white, or latino punk or idiot on a politician we don't happen to like.

 

[GirdYourLoins]

There was a post on Facebook recently of a counter rally by whites on the other side of the road to a Black Lives Matter rally. It initially looked like a racist group saying White Lives Matter as well, but the two groups had one representative meet to talk. The two groups then joined together in a march saying ALL lives matter. hey sang together, prayed together and worshipped God together. The Police joined in too. This is how it should be, everyone accepting everyone else as equal.

In recent years the liberal left have been trying to force their agenda on everyone, this includes giving disproportionate preference to groups like blacks and women. They believe that these groups must be given preferencial treatment. I have been involved with groups like this and on things like giving jobs have been told that women, blacks, gays, lesbians, etc should be given preference for jobs even if they are not the best candidates The rise in right wing politics is a backash to this imo. All the time anyone is given preference over others because of their sex, colour, etc we will not have true equality.

It is only by treating everyone as equal that people will be accepted as equal by the majority. That means no discrimination against anyone, either possitive discrimination or negative discrimination. For jobs this means giving it to the best candidate whoever they are. The liberal left have also been pushing pro-choice abortions, what i see as murdering unborn babies that God has knitted together in the womb, but thats a different argument.

Its reached the point now that you cant have an opinion without having accudsations made about you. If you say marriage was given by God between man and woman you are a homophobe by modern standards. If you say minprity groups should not be given a preference you are called racist. If you say women should not be given preference you are sexist, in fact his one can be even worse. As a polite man I will hold the door open for people, I've been accused of being sexist for doing this for women wven though I do it for men as well.

It is not for me to judge other people for things like their beliefs, sexual preferences, etc. I will however speak what I believe to be right before God. As such I am considered an extremist bysome people. All the time people are being forced to comply with an extremist belief like the liberal left are doing (and I do think they are extremists) there will be a push back against it which results in the far right also becoming more forceful. I see little difference n the two, extremists tryng to force their views on others.

 

[Widlast]

What are you talking about !? Those two on the left look almost like caricatures of Hitler's beloved, putatively Aryan 'ubermensch'? Among which, of course, Hitler, himself, with his brown hair and brown eyes, did not figure, even in a less exaggerated way.

Thanks for making my point for me.
The fact that the people in the poster could be construed as northern Europeans gets you all in a lather.

 

[Radrook]

Mestizos actually face discrimination throughout Mexico, central and South America. European descendants control the power in those areas and they are prejudiced against those of "mixed-race" backgrounds.

I would disagree that Caucasians and African-Americans have had any kind of background of intermarriage or that it exceeds that of Anglo-Americans with those of Hispanic descent. My cousin married a first generation Mexican-American and there was no lack of acceptance from either side. Immigration without assimilation is invasion. Assimilation takes time and African-American assimilation has taken much longer than it should have because of racial barriers.

Another group that has ALWAYS resisted assimilation (and whose assimilation has been fought against as well) are the Jews. Historically, they have refused to assimilate and their confinement in Jewish ghettos was another part of the lack of assimilation.

I disagree that blacks are to be viewed as invaders because they have failed to be fully assimilated genetically.
They were brought here involuntarily. Seems more as if they were invaded in their homeland and forced to travel and then accused of being invaders. That is ironic to say the least.

The areas you now say are being invaded were once Mexico proper and were INVADED by the USA with the intention of land grabbing. So now you say they are being invaded by whom? Mexicans?

About Mestizos, yes, there are countries in which Latinos of predominantly European descent look down on those of mixed races such as Mestizos and mulatos, and even Native Americans and blacks. Generally speaking European descended people have that tendency. My point was that Latinos are not a race and depicting all Latinos as a brown skinned people who hate Caucasians is a stupidity.

 

[Radrook]

That's it?

Come now.

I'll see you that drivel and raise you a dozen slain policemen and numerous riots across the nation that Obama has (supposedly) "emboldened" to be carried out.

That is if we simply must blame every racist tendency displayed in every black, white, or latino punk or idiot on a politician we don't happen to like.

Statistics show a positive correlation between Trump's election and the immediate increase in racist-motivated discrimination incidents. Such positive correlation strongly indicates causality.

Nevada Senator Harry Reid alluded to the turbulent post-election atmosphere in a statement on Friday, writing that “the election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America.”

“White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear — especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans. Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America,” he said
Swastika Graffiti and ‘Build the Wall’ Taunts: Inside the Racially Charged Incidents Since Trump’s Election

Racist Incidents Are Up Since Donald Trump’s Election. These Are Just a Few of Them

 

[Marvin Knox]

Statistics show a positive correlation between Trump's election and the immediate increase in racist-motivated discrimination incidents. Such positive correlation strongly indicates causality.

I'll raise you one anti-Trump racial incident for every supposedly Trump instigated incident.

Are you able to illiminate the many race motivated riots and protests by minorities and or disgruntled Democrats both leading up to the election of Trump and after as the instigating factors in those incidents - rather than Trump's retoric?

No way to do that of course.

I'm no white supremecist - but if I was and I saw the unwarrented riots and police killings by minorities and political liberals before Trump's election and after as well - those things would bring me out of the woodwork and cause me to act out as well.

It's not (IMO) Trumps "supposedly" racist retoric that has led to any increase in white related racism coming to the surface. It is the actions and retoric of non-white racist activity which has percipitated any increase from the other side.

I doubt that truly warrented protests by minorities and liberals aoud cause white racists to show themselves anywhere near as much as when those protests are unwarranted as has been the case in many instances.

 

[tienkhoanguyen]

I think if you answer the questions, what on earth is threatening the very existence of those people like the ones pictured on the left poster? and, what solutions do the alt right group propose to mitigate these perceived threats?, then it's easier to determine if it is racist.

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[Radrook]

I'll raise you one anti-Trump racial incident for every supposedly Trump instigated incident.

Are you able to illiminate the many race motivated riots and protests by minorities and or disgruntled Democrats both leading up to the election of Trump and after as the instigating factors in those incidents - rather than Trump's retoric?

No way to do that of course.

I'm no white supremecist - but if I was and I saw the unwarrented riots and police killings by minorities and political liberals before Trump's election and after as well - those things would bring me out of the woodwork and cause me to act out as well.

It's not (IMO) Trumps "supposedly" racist retoric that has led to any increase in white related racism coming to the surface. It is the actions and retoric of non-white racist activity which has percipitated any increase from the other side.

I doubt that truly warrented protests by minorities and liberals aoud cause white racists to show themselves anywhere near as much as when those protests are unwarranted as has been the case in many instances.

You are putting the horse before the wagon.
Trump's racist rhetoric initiated anti Trump demonstrations.
There is NOTHING about those demonstrations that target any specific race.
It is his rhetoric that is the issue not his Anglo American race nor the race of any of his supporters..

 

[NeedyFollower]

Do I see anything racist or offensive ? Well, as a follower of our Lord Jesus Christ who came to destroy the power of the adversary, I recognize that the motive or agenda behind these posters may not be in harmony with Christ in His person nor His teachings. I believe He says that which does not gather separates . We do not fight against flesh and blood but principalities and powers of darkness in high places. As Christians have learned or not learned throughout history, the enemy of truth will often use nationalism , religion , knowledge , " doctrines of man" to keep us from humility, meekness , gentleness and love. As God gives grace to the humble but opposes the proud , I guess we should all recognize God's mercy in our lives through the gift that HE gave .We are all only recipients. I guess that is why we sow peace and pray for our enemies rather than divide into factions and political name callings and ramblings. We are involved in doing eternal things by God's grace because the fashion of this world passes away ( and will have no value when Christ returns or when we go to Him to give an account. )

 

[tienkhoanguyen]

Do I see anything racist or offensive ? Well, as a follower of our Lord Jesus Christ who came to destroy the power of the adversary, I recognize that the motive or agenda behind these posters may not be in harmony with Christ in His person nor His teachings. I believe He says that which does not gather separates . We do not fight against flesh and blood but principalities and powers of darkness in high places. As Christians have learned or not learned throughout history, the enemy of truth will often use nationalism , religion , knowledge , " doctrines of man" to keep us from humility, meekness , gentleness and love. As God gives grace to the humble but opposes the proud , I guess we should all recognize God's mercy in our lives through the gift that HE gave .We are all only recipients. I guess that is why we sow peace and pray for our enemies rather than divide into factions and political name callings and ramblings. We are involved in doing eternal things by God's grace because the fashion of this world passes away ( and will have no value when Christ returns or when we go to Him to give an account. )

You have a valid point. I agree that there are those even myself who seeks glory for their own family and themselves instead of GOD's glory. So I am a sinner. I also need saving! Thxs for bringing my nose down hehe