Just for once let us all try to be honest.

[Subduction Zone]

You guys want the Ten Commandments off the courthouse lawns, right?

For our benefit, or yours?

(We're the ones who put it there.)

Christian: Let's put this display up here.
Atheist: Better not.
Christian: Why?
Atheist: Cause the Muslims might want one up too.
Christian: We'll cross that bridge when ...
Atheist: Excuse me ... gotta go get some protesters.

For everyone's benefit. If you allow the Ten Commandments there then you have to allow the religious writings of all religions. Your religion belongs in your churches and your families. If you try to foist it upon others you can't complain if others try to do the same to you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ya ... that seems to be pandemic around here.

Then don't ask bogus questions that attempt to limit the answers. It is highly likely that you are wrong. That technique only works if one is demonstrably correct and we know that is not the case for your beliefs.

 

[TLK Valentine]

No--that was before the fact! She agreed before it happened.

Ah, yes, my bad -- I was conflating Matthew's and Luke's narratives... how embarrassing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I understood you clearly---thus my reaction. Or do you need me to explain it in simpler terms?

Since you appear to believe stories that have been known to be false for over 150 years it is quite apparent that you did not understand. Again, this technique only works if one is demonstrably correct. Your side is not. That is why they lose case after case. Whether it is before a fairly conservative supreme court or even before a fairly conservative judge.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You guys want the Ten Commandments off the courthouse lawns, right?

For our benefit, or yours?

(We're the ones who put it there.)

Christian: Let's put this display up here.
Atheist: Better not.
Christian: Why?
Atheist: Cause the Muslims might want one up too.
Christian: We'll cross that bridge when ...
Atheist: Excuse me ... gotta go get some protesters.

Well, in fairness, you already know when the Muslims ask, the Christian response is going to be "no."

That, and a trunkload of blithering hysterics about "creeping sharia." best to nip that argument in the bud.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ya ... that seems to be pandemic around here.

The world is not as simple as you... wish it to be.

 

[AV1611VET]

For everyone's benefit.

Including the ones who put it up ... LOL!?

If you allow the Ten Commandments there then you have to allow the religious writings of all religions.

Then let them get their own courthouses.

Do you think it's appropriate to eek & ook if the Muslims post their religious writings on their courthouse lawns in their country?

Your religion belongs in your churches and your families.

Behind closed doors ... got it.

So unbelievers can tax us and pass laws against what the Bible has to say.

If you try to foist it upon others you can't complain if others try to do the same to you.

Then let them whine and moan.

Who made you guys their cheering section?

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, in fairness, you already know when the Muslim's ask, the Christian response is going to be "no."

Ya ... go to a Muslim country and post the Ten Commandments and watch the poster get his return flight cancelled.

Come here and post the Ten Commandments and watch our own Americans go up in arms.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Including the ones who put it up ... LOL!?

Yes, even including the ones that broke the law in the first place.

Then let them get their own courthouses.

What makes you think those courthouses belong to Christians?

Do you think it's appropriate to eek & ook if the Muslims post their religious writings on their courthouse lawns in their country?Behind closed doors ... got it.

Their country, their rules. Again, watch the false charges. No one goes "eek and ook". Would it be appropriate for me to describe creationists going "derp derp derp what's that" when scientific evidence is presented to them?

So unbelievers can tax us and pass laws against what the Bible has to say.Then let them whine and moan.

The Bible is merely a man made book. Perhaps you should go and start your own country where you can make your own rules.

Who made you guys their cheering section?

I always tend to cheer for those that are in the right.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Who made you guys their cheering section?

The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, of course. You see, AV, while you bask in the knowledge that only the Others get shafted, the rest of us realize the truth:

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ya ... go to a Muslim country and post the Ten Commandments and watch the poster get his return flight cancelled.

Come here and post the Ten Commandments and watch our own Americans go up in arms.

We're not talking abut a Muslim Country. Go there yourself.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ya ... go to a Muslim country and post the Ten Commandments and watch the poster get his return flight cancelled.

Come here and post the Ten Commandments and watch our own Americans go up in arms.

Different countries different rules. The UN would oppose Muslim countries doing that, but the UN has no teeth in these matters. Would you be willing to give them teeth? I wouldn't.

 

[mmksparbud]

Since you appear to believe stories that have been known to be false for over 150 years it is quite apparent that you did not understand. Again, this technique only works if one is demonstrably correct. Your side is not. That is why they lose case after case. Whether it is before a fairly conservative supreme court or even before a fairly conservative judge.

Have never lost a case before the Supreme Judge: God the Father and His Son, (my lawyer).

 

[Subduction Zone]

Have never lost a case before the Supreme Judge: God the Father and His Son, (my lawyer).

There is no valid evidence for your "Supreme Judge". It appears that you would laugh at someone making the same claims as you just did about Allah. Yet they have just as much evidence for their beliefs as you have for yours.

 

[AV1611VET]

Their country, their rules.

Funny how morality changes across the border, isn't it?

I always tend to cheer for those that are in the right.

No comment.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, of course.

He wanted the Ten Commandments off the courthouse lawns, did he?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Funny how morality changes across the border, isn't it?

Morality is the same. But no one has been claiming here that what happens in Muslim countries is moral.

No comment.

A wise move on your part for once.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He wanted the Ten Commandments off the courthouse lawns, did he?

He had bigger fish to fry.

 

[AV1611VET]

Morality is the same. But no one has been claiming here that what happens in Muslim countries is moral.

Well, I'm sure they're pleased unbelievers are doing their work over here for them.

Starting with the Bible in schools and Ten Commandments on our courthouse lawns.

Their attitude towards us is probably:

Give them enough rope and the unbelievers will hang them (the Christians).

 

[TLK Valentine]

He wanted the Ten Commandments off the courthouse lawns, did he?

He knew that if "Christians" actually had them in their hearts, they wouldn't need to be on the lawns.

Seriously, AV -- what's the point of having them out there? Crib notes?