I'm confused: how are any of these a response to how an unchanging God doesn't stop talking to His followers? Let's try to stay on topic.
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Yes, but the Book of Mormon gives us another witness to his atonement.
2 Nephi 29
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.
12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.
13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.
14 And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.
We fully expect more scriptures to be found one day adding even more witnesses to Christ and his saving grace.
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Once again, and for the last time, it is immaterial what Vogel personally believes in, because we are dealing with discrepancies between the statements published in the front matter of the BOM and other statements of those same people, not the content of the Book of Acts or this other stuff.
Vogel is correct to point out several statements which make the witnessing to the reality of the plates seem less reliable than the official statements (which, as I understand it, were neither signed nor given by the witnesses themselves, but were composed later for them) would have us believe.
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How many of Joseph Smith prophecies have been fulfilled , other than purposed by the Mormons themselves ?
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The translation was finally published in 1830 as the Book of Mormon. Joseph claimed that during this translation process, John the Baptist appeared to him and ordained him to accomplish the divine work of restoring the true church by preaching the true gospel which, allegedly, had been lost from the earth.
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It is considered that John the Baptist was the one who for told the coming of Christ in the biblical account he was the one crying in the wilderness and Preaching repentance , he was to come in the Spirit of Elias the prophet.
As the Bible states this was done.
In Hebrews it states that Christ was a high priest in the order of Melchizedek.
Joseph Smith claims both of these events with a twist , Did Smith consider himself to be Christ returning to earth?
The translation was finally published in 1830 as the Book of Mormon. Joseph claimed that during this translation process, John the Baptist appeared to him and ordained him to accomplish the divine work of restoring the true church by preaching the true gospel which, allegedly, had been lost from the earth.
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It is considered that John the Baptist was the one who for told the coming of Christ in the biblical account he was the one crying in the wilderness and Preaching repentance , he was to come in the Spirit of Elias the prophet.
As the Bible states this was done.
In Hebrews it states that Christ was a high priest in the order of Melchizedek.
Joseph Smith claims both of these events with a twist , Did Smith consider himself to be Christ returning to earth?
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Good reply
Since MoronI was a Native American as I have Native American blood ,do you suppose I may be the one who finds more revelation?
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This is the topic as best as I can reply due to being reported and a point given for the first time in over 5100 post,I have to ask questions about your faith.
I do not want to be misunderstood.
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I'm sorry, but if you want to start a new topic, you'll have to start a new thread.
I advise asking 1 single question, the most important one you have. That way conversation can focus on the most important thing. This is much more productive than asking a million unimportant questions.
Also, respect goes a long way.
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What validates the Mormon religon more so than Islam?
Mormons have a major prophet Joseph Smith,and Islam had Mohammed
They both use the Hebrew text and their own text as well,how are we to discern this?
Both prophets had as many as 25 wives.
Could there be another revelation before Josph Smith and after Christ?
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I want to learn the depth of your religon ,so I need a good background of its orgin,no disrespect intended from me.
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No I was saved in a Freewill Baptist Church
And was Baptist most of my life,since 2008 I have been considered Charismatic which Word of faith has its orgins.
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Ok, get a good night sleep
. We can talk tomorrow.If you have 1 most important question, I can address that. Alternatively, I can just start talking about the most important LDS beliefs.
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I'm just trying to stay on topic here which is what brought about the first God, how does our beginning of creation work.
I think new scriture will come out of Russia, China and Europe maybe even Africa. The Bible says Israel was spread to the four corners of the earth.
Moses prophesied
Deut
27 And the Lord shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the Lord shall lead you.
28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men’s hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.
29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
So the Lord led groups of Israelites out of Israel as many of them were being taken captive. They were taught to worship false gods, that didn't take much because they were already doing that.
However the promise was that if any of them truly desired to seek the Lord their God they would find him. So we feel there were groups like in the Book of Mormon who had prophets which taught them the gospel but over the years they fell into apostasy and by the time Christian missionaries arrived they were pagan. We feel there is buried somewhere the writings of these prophets which will also testify of Christ.
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Me starting off with the most important thing:Ok, get a good night sleep
If you have 1 most important question, I can address that. Alternatively, I can just start talking about the most important LDS beliefs.
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are followers of Jesus Christ. He is our Lord and Savior, without whose atoning sacrifice none come to the Father. We follow Him: heeding His words, trying to be like Him, and praying to the Father in His name.
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If everything was finished, then why does the New Testament contain more works than the Gospels?
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