Are there credible witnesses to the resurrection?

[Alla27]

Could you please review the rules of this particular forum.

The fact that this is HE who came not by water only but by water and blood should have made you understand not only where the HOLY SPIRIT is but as well that HE came in the flesh

And if CHRIST were but a mere man there would have been NO OTHER WAY that HE could have come into the world but by flesh

But because it is noted "HE came in the flesh"....
It should be noted

I am sorry I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[miknik5]

Can any Christian on this forum show me that "incarnation" is biblical word? So, I could take my statement back.

John 1 for starters

 

[miknik5]

And you do realize that this also means you do not believe in the "triune" GOD who is ONE since you don't with fleshly eyes see the word "trinity" as well

 

[miknik5]

And what you are then Implying is that CHRIST spoke by HIS OWN SPIRIT and told us what to do to have LIFE?

And not only that said and spoke over the WORD OF GOD as mentioned in Matthew 5 when HE said "you have heard it said long ago....

BUT I SAY TO YOU

Did HE have the authority to do that?

And if HE did have the authority to do this

Why?

Because HE was separate from THE FATHER or because HE wasn't?

Because HE didn't come down from heaven from THE FATHER and into the world or because HE did come down from heaven from THE FATHER and into the world?

 

[miknik5]

How were you able to even start posting on this forum if you do not believe that the SON of GOD came forth from GOD and and is HOLY as THE SON of GOD.

That HE was not born into the world in the natural way by the inclinations of a man and a woman but was declared HOLY because by the power of THE HY SPIRIT HE was brought forth

HE was declared holy at birth. HE didn't somehow fulfill and earn HIS divinity

 

[miknik5]

I don't feel like arguing with you.

You will have to ask yourself that question?

Who do you say HE is

I know.

 

[miknik5]

I'm sorry Wait for another Christian to help you.

You have GOD's WORD. HIS WORD is sufficient

We don't have to change HIS WORD simply because we can't fully understand how this can be

It is

 

[Alla27]

And you do realize that this also means you do not believe in the "triune" GOD who is ONE since you don't with fleshly eyes see the word "trinity" as well

when you tell me what "triune" GOD is ACCORDING to you I will tell you whether I believe it or not.
I believe that there are three and that They are ONE. But what does it mean according to the Bible - they are ONE? You didn't tell me yet.

 

[miknik5]

I don't have to

GOD does

 

[Alla27]

And what you are then Implying is that CHRIST spoke by HIS OWN SPIRIT and told us what to do to have LIFE?

I have never said this.

Because HE was separate from THE FATHER or because HE wasn't?

yes and no.
Son can be separate from His Father and still be ONE with Him.
My husband and I are separate (bodies) but we are still one (in faith and love and goals). So what did Jesus mean(according to the Bible) when He said "Father and I are one"?

 

[Alla27]

I don't have to

GOD does

to whom? book, chapter, verses, please.

 

[miknik5]

I have never said this.

/QUOTE]
Then back to the original question. Where was the HOLY SPIRIT if THE HOLY SPIRIT was separate from THE SON

 

[miknik5]

Listen. I don't like this. I am not here to give you the third degree but if you don't even know who HE is and are suggesting something outside the TRUTH of HIS DIVINTY from the beginning (that HE somehow earn the SPIRIT of HOLINESS) you should not be "witnessing" to anyone.

 

[Alla27]

Listen. I don't like this. I am not here to give you the third degree but if you don't even know who HE is and are suggesting something outside the TRUTH of HIS DIVINTY from the beginning (that HE somehow earn the SPIRIT of HOLINESS) you should not be "witnessing" to anyone.

I am not witnessing anything to you. I am asking you one simple question: what did Jesus mean when He said that Father and Him are one? I don't want you to tell me what according to YOU He meant. I want to know what according to Him He meant.
If you are not able to answer just let me know.

 

[miknik5]

This is an outreach forum.

 

[miknik5]

I am not witnessing anything to you. I am asking you one simple question: what did Jesus mean when He said that Father and Him are one? I don't want you to tell me what according to YOU He meant. I want to know what according to Him He meant.
If you are not able to answer just let me know.

Go review what HE said to Philip.

That should give you your answer

No you aren't witnessing to me. Nor do i need you to

 

[Alla27]

Go review what HE said to Philip.
That should give you your answer

I did. Jesus did not explain to Philip what it means that Father and Him are one.

 

[miknik5]

I did. Jesus did not explain to Philip what it means that Father and Him are one.

Oh HE did...
You just don't see that HE and THE FATHER are ONE...

 

[Alla27]

Oh HE did...
You just don't see that HE and THE FATHER are ONE...

Oh, I believe that They are one. But you still didn't tell me what Jesus meant (according to Jesus or the Bible)

 

[miknik5]

Oh, I believe that They are one. But you still didn't tell me what Jesus meant (according to Jesus or the Bible)

Ahh...I'm not going to explain it. You still haven't told me where the HOLY SPIRIT was before and after CHRIST's crucifixion...

And HIS resurrection...
And HIS ascension...

And how many HOLY SPIRITS there are NOW in Heaven...