For all eternity - "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before God to Worship"

[Dkh587]

I really don't know, but I do know Paul teaches Sabbath is just a shadow, and not to let Bob or anyone else judge me over it.

Paul was writing to people who were keeping the Sabbath and telling them to not let others judge them for keeping Sabbath

Paul was not writing to people like you who don't keep the Sabbath and teach others to not keep the Sabbath

You're twisting what Paul said to fit your doctrine, which by the way is not biblical

 

[W2L]

Paul was writing to people who were keeping the Sabbath and telling them to not let others judge them for keeping Sabbath

Paul was not writing to people like you who don't keep the Sabbath and teach others to not keep the Sabbath

You're twisting what Paul said to fit your doctrine, which by the way is not biblical

With respect, that's nonsense. You obviously didn't read the text. The text is clearly saying the opposite, hence the shadow of things that were to come.

You Sabbath posters just don't get it.

 

[W2L]

Where will all the 7 billion + people in the world come to worship Him? I don't think there is enough room in Jerusalem to hold all of them......tho I could be wrong.



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Yup

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'm using scripture, not mans wisdom. God reasons too, correct?.

Good. I hope so, truly.
As you do, you learn the TRUTH from YHWH. HE will never teach you a lie or even an error at all.

No. God does not reason. (not the way as on this forum. not the way we were taught to. not the way of scholars, nor of men.)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Where will all the 7 billion + people in the world come to worship Him? I don't think there is enough room in Jerusalem to hold all of them......tho I could be wrong.



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Haven't you read Revelation yet ? It is very graphically gruesome, what happens to most of the people on earth.

 

[W2L]

Good. I hope so, truly.
As you do, you learn the TRUTH from YHWH. HE will never teach you a lie or even an error at all.

No. God does not reason. (not the way as on this forum. not the way we were taught to. not the way of scholars, nor of men.)

You are in such denial. You are refusing to see what scripture clearly says.

 

[W2L]

Haven't you read Revelation yet ? It is very graphically gruesome, what happens to most of the people on earth.

All mankind will be in Jerusalem on Sabbath. Not.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

All mankind will be in Jerusalem on Sabbath. Not.

Not all. Not anywhere near.
Isaiah 4:3-4-
And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

This is also new testament - AFTER all that law was nailed to the cross!
Rev 12:17-
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ......STILL.

Same ol debate. Different post. Ecc. was correct , no new thing under the sun.

 

[W2L]

Not all. Not anywhere near.
Isaiah 4:3-4-
And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

This is also new testament - AFTER all that law was nailed to the cross!
Rev 12:17-
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ......STILL.

Same ol debate. Different post. Ecc. was correct , no new thing under the sun.

Well, you better get on a plane and head to Jerusalem for this Saturday's Sabbath. You don't want to be disobedient.

 

[Bob S]

Not all. Not anywhere near.
Isaiah 4:3-4-
And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

This is also new testament - AFTER all that law was nailed to the cross!
Rev 12:17-
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ......STILL.

Same ol debate. Different post. Ecc. was correct , no new thing under the sun.

Does anyone see a "10" before commandments? The same John that wrote Rev12 also wrote 1Jn3:19-24. John in those verses explain what God's commands for Christians are and they surely ain't the 10 commandments. Sorry friend, you have read something into that verse that is definitely not there. You and millions have been duped into believing an outright lie, too bad, but it is not too late to study for yourself the real truths for mankind found in the New Testament. When you do you will stop worshiping shadows.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

His Son added a couple. How many do you think God did away with? Better yet, how many did He say He did away with?

 

[BABerean2]

His Son added a couple. How many do you think God did away with? Better yet, how many did He say He did away with?

Gal 3:17　 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect.　
Gal 3:18　 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.　
Gal 3:19　 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.　


Heb_8:7　 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.


Heb_10:9　 then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

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[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

Then there's the rest of it ,as He spoke of the new covenant- God's will is His perfect commandments, which tell us what sin is.
VS 16- Same chapter
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Where will all the 7 billion + people in the world come to worship Him? I don't think there is enough room in Jerusalem to hold all of them......tho I could be wrong

Haven't you read Revelation yet ? It is very graphically gruesome, what happens to most of the people on earth.

All mankind will be in Jerusalem on Sabbath. Not.

The first quote: did not make sense referring to Sabbath, so I innocently and blamelessly thought he was referring to when Y'SHUA RETURNS.
Until you posted this quote, (which I only just now saw),
and I went back to see what you meant, did I see that for some reason he (may have) meant Sabbath and not the end of the world/society/ or when Y'SHUA RETURNS.

If you had noted what I posted, particularly in Revelation "gruesome", you might have realized nothing is "gruesome" about the Sabbath,
and
perhaps
remembered that in Revelation most of the whole world is executed
....
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I think it takes MANY MONTHS to pick up the dead bodies,
and the
blood flowing is "gruesome" DEEP..... (no matter if it is direct observation or metaphor -- the reality is billions executed).

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

Then there's the rest of it ,as He spoke of the new covenant- God's will is His perfect commandments, which tell us what sin is.

VS 16- Same chapter
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Also, just before 10:9 of your post, it was talking about burnt offering, which is Mosaic law. It has ZERO to do with God's commandments. Those were nailed to the cross with the ultimate sacrifice.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

There won't be anyone left to bury the bodies. This is the Great Supper of God, when the fowl of the air feast on the flesh of kings. I bet it'll be ripe after about a week!

 

[Bob S]

Then there's the rest of it ,as He spoke of the new covenant- God's will is His perfect commandments, which tell us what sin is.
VS 16- Same chapter
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Heb 8:6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
Heb 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Please explain why the writer of Hebrews would tell us we are under a better covenant with better promises and the first one is obsolete. If the covenant is the same it certainly wouldn't make any difference if it is written on the hearts or written on stone and parchment. Thanks for your answer, but I cannot believe it because it does not correspond to the scripture supplied.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Those were nailed to the cross with the ultimate sacrifice.

Colossians 2 (what was nailed)

13 And you, who were once dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has granted to live with Him, having forgiven you all your sins,
14 and, by his mandates, he canceled the legal contract*1 of our sins, which existed against us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His torture stake.

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1 This word in both Aramaic and Greek is a legal contract that we owe YHWH for the penalty of our sins. When someone was crucified in ancient times they would literally carry the cross beam to the crucifixion site and it would be nailed above them to the tree that was being used. The penalty of what they were being crucified for was written on the beam for all to see (Joh 19:19-20). This scripture is stating that as we are buried with Him in our baptism, He is also taking the penalty for our sins and applying His sacrifice to our penalty, so when we come up from the water our sins are completely paid for by the shed blood of Yahshua Messiah..

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There won't be anyone left to bury the bodies. This is the Great Supper of God, when the fowl of the air feast on the flesh of kings. I bet it'll be ripe after about a week!

I was referring to this: (from memory)(did not re-check context here in the thread nor in Ezekiel)
Ezekiel 39:12 "'For seven months the Israelites will be ...
Ezekiel 39:12 Parallel Verses ... It will take seven months for the people of Israel to bury the bodies and cleanse the ... Ezekiel 39:12 Seven months shall the house ...

 

[Bob S]

Then there's the rest of it ,as He spoke of the new covenant- God's will is His perfect commandments, which tell us what sin is. This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Yes, Paul explains this fact. He, in the King James version, calls the law the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Then he goes on to explain that once we are aware of our sinful condition and accept Jesus as Savior we are no longer under the law of sin and death. Here, read it for yourself: Gal 3:
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

2Cor 3:
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones,(10 commandments) was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

Better yet read those verses in the NIT

7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

I challenge you to study those verses along with Galatians 3 and 4. Those verses will change your life forever if you approach them with the power of the Holy Spirit. See the green verses below. We can know we belong to the truth if we follow John's teaching. believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.

Those are God's commands for Christians. The Torah was the commands for Israel only. They have no bearing on Christianity. If we love one another we will do all that is moral. All is much more that the 9 listed commands in the 10 commandments.