WretchedGoat
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Is that what Jesus would say?
No idea. Do I look like someone who knows what Jesus would say to everything? Was your comment supposed to make me feel bad? Go fish.
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Is that what Jesus would say?
Very sad. My experience is that people in CF try to be polite.
Very sad. My experience is that people in CF try to be polite.
I'm a guy. I have always found the tight fitting clothing to be unattractive. I'm not even sure why, but women in tights has always pushed me away.
In fact, the more artificial or "sexy" things a girl does, the more I think she's not confident with what's in her head. To me, its like she's declaring "I'm not very intelligent but look how pretty or sexy I am"..
My wife doesn't wear any makeup or jewelry.. She's one of the most intelligent women I have ever met and even though she's around 40, she still gets asked for her identification when she buys alcohol.. she looks 20 to 25.
One other thing.. from a scientific point of view.. I know the stretchy leggins don't fit this, but tight fitting jeans that don't have any "give" are actually medically bad for you body.. something to do with circulation.
I don't think people look at me w disapproval or whatever but if they do seriously who cares. I get to be me.
I don't know what it is, but there is something I find sexy about this picture... Perhaps further study is required..
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It does not take an advanced degree in sociology or psychology to understand what is sexy about that image. I can see at least 3 points, any one of which would render it "sexy." And that is just a cursory view of the pic.I don't know what it is, but there is something I find sexy about this picture... Perhaps further study is required..
I am not sure they are really pants. They might be body paint.My jeans definitely aren't as tight as her pants.
I am not sure they are really pants. They might be body paint.
What, however, is debatable: Who´s responsible for solving your problems.I've been a guy for 54 years. My while life i have seen and heard how males look and talk in a de-meaning sexist way about an attractive girl wearing tight clothing. If girls dress in way that makes guys talk and lust then its wrong. Like i said i have heard how guys speak about girls when they can see the shape of her body. They say lewd, disgusting things about what they'd like to do to her. U cannot get away frm this. To say its up to the guy not to look is CRAZY. Simply, if u line up a row of sexy girls in skin tight clothing, and a row of girls in non sexy non form fitting clothing, which group do u think God would approve of? I rest my case. Its a problem for me when i see women and girls dressed like that, i have spoken to other males at our church, in confidence, and they have admitted that its a problem for them. Its not even debatable.
You can cover yourself head to toe, but you can't prevent your body from producing chemicals that will attract the opposite sex.Hi guys; so this is kind of an opinion question I guess. Im a 16 year old girl (a sophomore in high school) and it seems like just about every girl wears skinny jeans and jeggings and leggings (basically, form fitting jeans) practically every day. Rarely do I see a girl wear boot leg or other less form fitting jeans (and those that do still wear tight jeans sometimes). I wear types of jeans that arent as form fitting, more loose jeans because I feel like thats more modest and like it is what Jesus would want me to do. But I feel like boot cut jeans (and other non-form fitting types) are unflattering and I really dislike the way I look in them. My question is, what do you think about Christians wearing skinny jeans? The reason Im hesitant to wear them is because I dont want to make guys lust when they look at me, but am I just being overcautious and will it not make any difference either way? Will guys look at my butt (as awkward as that sounds, lol) no matter what I wear anyway?
I pray about this a lot and I feel like I am at a crossroads. Thinking that Jesus wants me to be as modest as possible but also knowing that he wants me to be comfortable with my body (and I feel kind of unattractive and lack confidence in my appearance when I wear boot cut and other non-form fitting jeans.) What is your opinion on this- girls, do you wear them, and do you think Jesus approves? And guys, do you have thoughts as well; do you have more trouble keeping pure thoughts around woman wearing skinny jeans? Thanks for sharing your thoughts, guys!
Just top prevent a misunderstanding ,I assume to mean 'immodest' in the first sentence ?I'm on the more conservative side, contrary to what many people on this site say I think men and women both have a STRONG responsibility to not draw their brother or sister into sin by dressing modestly. I think anyone who is unwilling to change the way they dress to help a brother then they love their clothing more than they do the sibling.
That said, There are skinny jeans, then there are SKINNY jeans. My thought is as long as a woman keeps her chest/legs covered and nothing is skin tight she is probably alright, you could make an argument against midriff as well but the main thing is to leave something to the imagination lol.When i say legs coverd I'm just talking shorts/skirt/whatever like around halfway to the knee's, doesn't have to be crazy long. As far as legging, I think anything as form fitting as yoga pants are to immodest, but most jeans are probably ok. Lets be honest the person in yoga pants might not as well be wearing anything at all.
Thats just my opinion. "skinny" jeans are ok in the sense that "skirts" are ok. Some are fine and very modest, some are DEFIANTLY not ok. there really isn't a way I can 100% say "that is ok" "That is not".
What utter nonsense ! As a woman if I see a man showing his private parts by wearing tight tight jeans ,I think he is rather lewd , unless he is dancing in a ballet .What, however, is debatable: Who´s responsible for solving your problems.
"Ultimate responsibility rests with the sinner " ,and who is the first 'sinner ' in this case ?Perhaps it does not hold up to your interpretation of the Bible. Whether it holds up to what the Bible says is a different matter.
But the ultimate responsibility rests with the sinner.
Lets look at what Scripture actually says. 1 Timothy 2:9 states "I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety." We can agree on that. However, Timothy goes on to describe what he means by the term modestly: "adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes." Therefore modest dress is a question of overdressing, not underdressing.
But "modesty" is, from what Scripture clearly states, a matter of not wearing expensive jewels or gold, not of wearing shorts or jeans.
Agreed
Can you provide anything in Scripture to support this? Actually in Biblical times nudity was fairly common. Women would have breastfeed in public. Fisherman would have been naked while fishing in plain view from the shore (Paul provides us with an example of this). In the early Christian Church baptisms were performed naked.
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Again, clear according to your interpretation.
So where do you draw the line? If you serve someone a good mean, are you responsible for them committing the sin of gluttony? If you have a bank account are you responsible for the bank employees committing the sin of usury? If you own an expensive car are you responsible for others committing the sin of envy?
Again, where do we draw the line?
Everything you say is ultimately meaning less,,and now I will put you on ignore ."And since this the Islamic State, conformity to Islamic extremism is the ultimate decider."
If you have to define what is right based on where you are, then you are basically admitting you can't prove your point.
1) A literalist understanding is anti-Christian, perverted, and morally corrupt.
2) You can question everything in the Bible (and everywhere). Should women talk in church, and wear hats?
3) There is nothing immoral about wearing little, or nothing. Whether you think the Bible disagrees is relevant. What matters is what is moral. What someone thinks is their responsibility; wearing little isn't 'leading someone on'.
4) There is no such thing as modesty. It's arbitrary.
Chest and butts don't have anything to do with sex. There's no objective difference between chest and face. If you want to avoid lust, the only way is total coverage... a burka.
You don't have any responsibility... there is nothing objectively lustful about showing your chest, or whole body. Lust is only in the eye of the beholder. It's their psychological issue. Being completely naked doesn't mean your leading someone to lust. Someone might lust, but you didn't make them.
This is no better than blaming a rape victim for being raped, based on their clothing. It's pretty scummy.
Whether someone wants to lust over me, or rape me, isn't my fault because of my clothing. Placing blame where it is appropriate isn't idolizing looks, it's a healthy relation one's body, and not letting other people run from their issues.
I do love liberty and opposing oppression and repression more than I love protecting others from their own psychology. Liberty shouldn't be compromised because some people feel 'naughty' feelings.