Flat Earth and Earth-centric solar system according to the Bible

[Archie the Preacher]

[shaking head and quietly sobbing...][thinking]...now they're telling screwy belief stories...[/thinking]

 

[AV1611VET]

That you have another Bible and admit it in public tends to mitigate your position.

Why?

I believe the KJB has six Predecessors, of which the AV1560 is one of them.

The KJB is God's choice for these last days.

Do you read Shakespeare, by the way?

No -- should I?

Do you know the difference between 'thee' and 'thou'?

Yes.

 

[mmksparbud]

AV1611VET said:
And taking this a step further, I also believe they spoke Jacobean English prior to the Tower of Babel. Just a pet theory of mine.


I do enjoy AVvet's postings, but I must agree that this is one of the silliest things I ever heard!!!

adjective
1.
of or relating to James I of England or to his period.

The origin of Jacobean English comes from a long history of different languages gradually morphing into that one.

https://www.englishclub.com/english-language-history.htm
"The history of the English language really started with the arrival of three Germanic tribes who invaded Britain during the 5th century AD. These tribes, the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes, crossed the North Sea from what today is Denmark and northern Germany. At that time the inhabitants of Britain spoke a Celtic language. But most of the Celtic speakers were pushed west and north by the invaders - mainly into what is now Wales, Scotland and Ireland. The Angles came from "Englaland" [sic] and their language was called "Englisc" - from which the words "England" and "English" are derived.
Old English (450-1100 AD)
The invading Germanic tribes spoke similar languages, which in Britain developed into what we now call Old English. Old English did not sound or look like English today. Native English speakers now would have great difficulty understanding Old English. Nevertheless, about half of the most commonly used words in Modern English have Old English roots. The words be, strong and water, for example, derive from Old English. Old English was spoken until around 1100.

"



How the Morphing of several Germanic and Celtic languages evolved into Jacobean English prior to the tower of Babel would be impossible as they all spoke only one language. You'd think since the original scripture was in Hebrew that it would have been some form of Hebrew, but it is all useless speculation.
Bottom line is, the original scriptures were written in Ancient Hebrew and is best understood when seen through that culture and meaning of their words according to them--not according to Jacobean English.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Why?

The 'serious' (I was going to say 'rabid' but decided against it) KJVO sorts won't admit to it. At times, some won't admit there are any other versions; certain no other versions that are not some work of the devil, and so forth.

I believe the KJB has six Predecessors, of which the AV1560 is one of them.

Arghhh! Another admission unspoken by 'them'! None of them will admit the Geneva Bible or the Wycliffe Bible actually existed. Except you, it seems.

The KJB is God's choice for these last days.

Uh - ahem - moving on...

No -- should I?

Read Shakespeare? I think it's part of a complete education. Usually when I ask a KJVO adherent this question, they respond negative and tell me the words are all weird. Which I find odd, as the works of Shakespeare and the King James Bible were published within fifty years or so of each other. It is the same period language English. If one cannot comprehend one, one cannot comprehend the other.

Yes.

You do know the difference between 'thee' and 'thou'. Congratulations, no other KJVO adherent had claimed to know - to me - yet.

Now, go back and catch up on some of the other subjects. Please.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

And taking this a step further, I also believe they spoke Jacobean English prior to the Tower of Babel. Just a pet theory of mine.

I do enjoy AVvet's postings, but I must agree that this is one of the silliest things I ever heard!!!

Vet, please tell him. I just can't.

 

[AV1611VET]

Vet, please tell him. I just can't.

I believe God created Adam & Eve.

They had to speak some language, and I believe that language was Jacobean English.

It's not rocket science here, guys.

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

Let's put this into perspective:

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth [wrote and spoke Jacobean English].

This means Adam wrote Genesis 1 & 2 in Jacobean English, etc.

Then came the Tower of Babel incident, and Jacobean English was eliminated.

Moses, translated the book of Genesis into Hebrew, and did so with the help of the Holy Ghost, who simply gave him the ability to interpret tongues.

HOWEVER, since it was God's intent to write His last Translation in Jacobean English, this means that Jacobean English had to make a comeback.

And that's what it did ... it "morphed" (to use spar's word) back to us via the 'several Germanic and Celtic languages' mentioned in mmsparbud's post.

Except mmsparbud said 'prior to the tower of Babel,' when it was actually after the Tower of Babel.

 

[mmksparbud]

 

[AV1611VET]

What are you facepalming and laughing about?

It was your mistake.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Vet, you can be mean sometimes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Vet, you can be mean sometimes.

 

[mmksparbud]

What are you facepalming and laughing about?

It was your mistake.

Sorry---but it is you that says that the people spoke Jacobean English before the Tower of Babel. How could they speak a language that is made up of Germanic and Celtic languages?? And why would they speak that as opposed to Spanish or German, or Hebrew or any other language?? The bible only says they spoke one language, nowhere does it state what language that was. It could have been one that has never been heard since. However, there is no question that God chose Hebrew as the language in which to write His words to us and the language that He wrote the 10 commandments with on stone with His own hand. Nowhere does it state who wrote Genesis 1 and 2 or the Torah for that matter. Why would it have been Adam? What makes you think that books were even needed by Adam or any of the pre=flood people? Adam and Eve were created with perfect brains---they passed down that perfection to their children, they inherited what would have been totally savant brains--savants today are documented as being able to memorize whole phone books!---There was no idiot part to their being savants. It was not until long after the flood that lifespans, and thus brain capacity was shortened. What knowledge someone can gather in over 800 years is very different from that which one can gather within 75. Moses was only 120. by then they needed books. I am sorry----but your pet theory--in short---stinks.

 

[AV1611VET]

How could they speak a language that is made up of Germanic and Celtic languages??

They didn't.

They spoke the language of Heaven: Jacobean English.

And since I suspect the term "Jacobean English" is confusing you, I vote we just call it the language of Heaven and let it go at that, eh?

I am sorry----but your pet theory--in short---stinks.

You're entitled to your opinion.

What language do you think they spoke then?

What makes you think that books were even needed by Adam or any of the pre=flood people?

Maybe you'd care to explain this then?

Genesis 5:1a This is the book of the generations of Adam.

 

[JackRT]

Vet --- Have you ever considered stand up comedy? Seriously?

 

[AV1611VET]

Vet --- Have you ever considered stand up comedy? Seriously?

Nah -- unbelievers already have created their own type of humor.

Luke 8:53a And they laughed him to scorn,

 

[mmksparbud]

They didn't.

They spoke the language of Heaven: Jacobean English.

And since I suspect the term "Jacobean English" is confusing you, I vote we just call it the language of Heaven and let it go at that, eh?

You're entitled to your opinion.

What language do you think they spoke then?


Maybe you'd care to explain this then?

Genesis 5:1a This is the book of the generations of Adam.

What about it??

As originally inspired by the Holy Spirit:

Genesis 5:1
this is the scroll of the birthings of the human in the day Elohiym fattened the human, in the likeness of Elohiym he made him,

THIS SCROLL BIRTHING~s HUMAN in~DAY >~FATTEN (Verb) Elohiym HUMAN in~LIKENESS Elohiym he~did~DO (Verb) AT~him
zeh sey'pher tol'dot a'dam bê'yom bê'ro e'lo'him a'dam bid'mut e'lo'him a'sah o'to

the original writing looked like this"

(this)
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation5.html

 

[Bob Carabbio]

One. Do you believe the Earth is flat and stationary? (Yes or no.)

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!

Two. Upon what grounds do you base your opinion, decision, choice?

Reality

To be transparent, I am specifically interested in why do you not accept the simple and straightforward wording of Holy Writ.

I accept it COMPLETELY. What I Don't Accept is "Other Peoples INTERPRETATION" of what it's telling us. Flat Earthers are nothing more than an ignorant "Lunatic Fringe".

 

[Archie the Preacher]

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!! (Earth is not flat and stationary.)

Reality (Basis for answer to question one.)

I accept it COMPLETELY. (Why not accept simple and straightforward wording of Holy Writ?)

What I Don't Accept is "Other Peoples INTERPRETATION" of what it's telling us. Flat Earthers are nothing more than an ignorant "Lunatic Fringe".

Would you expand a bit on why "Flat Earthers" and I presume Geocentric supporters are lunatics and those who reject all of Paul's writings as 'fraud' are not? Or some other passage of 'extraordinary' events is not part of the lunatic fringe? What is your criteria for the difference, if you please?