Creational Perception Ratio

[AV1611VET]

And you have to deny self deception, which is also a part of your past.

I don't deny self-deception.

I see it here all the time.

You guys work hard to create mental blocks you can't get around.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't deny self-deception.

I see it here all the time.

You guys work hard to create mental blocks you can't get around.

We work hard, to be sure, but we don't nearly put the overtime in required to have such a robust cog. dis. as you do.

 

[Loudmouth]

The point of the OP, however, is that there are experts...and then there are experts, and that if you choose an expert because they suit your agenda, then you would be following the wrong expert and be just as wrong as they are.

We follow the evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Hallstone has clearly stated that all models are incomplete, as compared to what can be ascertained from the word of God.

That doesn't change the fact that the evidence contradicts special creation, a young Earth, and a recent global flood.

But when a man knows God - he does not "know nothing." On the contrary, he knows the All in all.

That is just an empty assertion.

Comparing the knowledge of men to that of God - there is no contest.

And yet all you can present is empty assertions written by men.

 

[AV1611VET]

We work hard, to be sure, but we don't nearly put the overtime in required to have such a robust cog. dis. as you do.

No, you avoid cognitive dissonance by relying on such shoddy definitions as provided by fiction writers.

You avoid cognitive dissonance by hardening your heart to evidence of God: such as churches, holidays, and even Jesus time (BC/AD).

I could go on and on, but I won't.

 

[AV1611VET]

We follow the evidence.

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[Loudmouth]

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

So says the person who refuses to address the evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

So says the person who refuses to address the evidence.

I address evidence like you do: stamping DOES NOT APPLY on good points.

 

[Loudmouth]

I address evidence like you do: stamping DOES NOT APPLY on good points.

That is false, AV. You have consistently stated that the "evidence can take a hike". You run away from it in fear.

 

[HitchSlap]

No, you avoid cognitive dissonance by relying on such shoddy definitions as provided by fiction writers.

aka, "the Bible."

You avoid cognitive dissonance by...

...accepting independently objective falsifiable evidence capable of making predictions and building models.

hardening your heart

My heart is quite healthy, thank you, as I exercise 5-6 days a week.

to evidence of God:

Yeaaaah.... about that.

such as churches, holidays, and even Jesus time (BC/AD).

Let me guess, you also think weather balloons are evidence aliens crashed at Roswell.

I could go on and on, but I won't.

Thanks, I think I speak for everybody by saying, you've gone on enough.

 

[USincognito]

yes, I have a basic understanding of that

Then you should understand how the marine fossils that comprise formations in mountains got into the position they did. Are you aware that the Himalayas are still growing?

 

[USincognito]

The entire world was destroyed reconstituted, and remade 4500 years ago, the answers are there.

A claim for which there is zero evidence.

 

[HitchSlap]

I address evidence like you do: stamping DOES NOT APPLY on good points.

No, you don't AV. You ignore it, then make things up. Then try to tell us god told you to tell us that.

 

[ScottA]

That doesn't change the fact that the evidence contradicts special creation, a young Earth, and a recent global flood.

That is just an empty assertion.

And yet all you can present is empty assertions written by men.

The evidence contradiction...is the point of the OP, which explains the error. After that...all you have is errors stemming from a false premise.

 

[ScottA]

So says the person who refuses to address the evidence.

The evidence (error) was addressed in the OP.

 

[Loudmouth]

The evidence contradiction...is the point of the OP, which explains the error. After that...all you have is errors stemming from a false premise.

Sorry, but making up stories does not make contradictory evidence go away.

Do you really think a criminal can make all of the forensic evidence go away by claiming that Leprechaun's planted it?

 

[Loudmouth]

The evidence (error) was addressed in the OP.

The error is in thinking that stories in books make evidence go away.

 

[Hallstone]

Then you should understand how the marine fossils that comprise formations in mountains got into the position they did. Are you aware that the Himalayas are still growing?

What I find interesting about the subject is if you look at the destruction account in sequence, it begins with "all the fountains of the great deep broke open", I think this may be a direct reference to massive tectonic action, and then it says after that the "floodgates of the sky opened", first all the tectonic rifts blow open which then causes the original firmament to collapse. interesting model.

 

[HitchSlap]

What I find interesting about the subject is if you look at the destruction account in sequence, it begins with "all the fountains of the great deep broke open", I think this may be a direct reference to massive tectonic action, and then it says after that the "floodgates of the sky opened", first all the tectonic rifts blow open which then causes the original firmament to collapse. interesting model.

Do you have a source?

 

[AV1611VET]

What I find interesting about the subject is if you look at the destruction account in sequence, it begins with "all the fountains of the great deep broke open", I think this may be a direct reference to massive tectonic action, and then it says after that the "floodgates of the sky opened", first all the tectonic rifts blow open which then causes the original firmament to collapse. interesting model.

I doubt there were any tectonic plates prior to the Flood.