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My Creation Science Challenge

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Thanks AV, an excellent video. The title is a bit misleading, but this is something that I was unaware of. I can imagine how creation science will misuse that information.
Thank YOU for watching it!
 
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Off topic. What science do they present?
Creation scientist go where no evolutionist will dare go. Creation scientists will tell you where life came from and what happened after it got here.

Evolution scientist don't know where it came from, how it got here, where life came from, how it started. In fact they avoid it like the plague.

An evolution scientist cannot tell you where organism A came from but wants to tell you that they know how organism B, C, D E................came to be and the rest after that. Just don't ask them about organism A...no no no no no.

IMO if you don't have organism A or the life that keeps it alive........you don't get to tell me your notions about what happened after that.
 
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You are being very patient. I applaud that. I find it sad that the handful of members who seem to accept ID and creation science, members some of whom almost certainly saw this thread, are simply avoiding your challenge. Frankly, it is so frustrating I almost feel compelled to seek out an example myself. First I have to find that pesky leprechaun that's been scaring the unicorns.
 
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You are being very patient. I applaud that. I find it sad that the handful of members who seem to accept ID and creation science, members some of whom almost certainly saw this thread, are simply avoiding your challenge. Frankly, it is so frustrating I almost feel compelled to seek out an example myself. First I have to find that pesky leprechaun that's been scaring the unicorns.
He's actually making my point for me.

A point I've been making here for ten years now.

Except my apple challenge thread challenges ALL you scientific methodists; not just creation scientists.

You may not realize this, but you guys demanding evidence is just as bad as those claiming they have it.

Science can take a hike.
 
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Not any evidence for what? I can't hold my breath much longer. :eek:
Don't you want evidence for creation?

There isn't any.

None was generated.

We call those things "miracles."
 
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Evidence for creation?

First...open eyes.

Second...realize how stupid it is to think all you see just appeared from nothing.

Third...draw very, very logical conclusion it must have been created, as in... creating is the only way we have EVER seen anything come into being and we have NEVER seen something from nothing.

Or does science not allow logic? IOW, I have to prove the clearly white lily is white, and seeing it counts for nothing?
 
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Don't you want evidence for creation?

There isn't any.

None was generated.

We call those things "miracles."
The whole concept is FAITH. Until they grasp this, they will continue to be blind.

Their hearts are arrogant and stubborn. They look for concrete solid evidence of the scriptures. They won't believe unless they can use the science God created, to prove God. If anything is shown to them, they dismiss it.

I honestly don't know why they ask. If Christ Himself were to come down here and enter their house and say to them that He was who He is......they would write it off to a hallucination.

Here are some verses that tell us that until you actually have an accepting heart. One that is open to God's ways... you will not understand it, see it, comprehend it. A hardened heart looking for a provable, measurable God is not going to find it. You keep leaning on the wisdom of men when mans wisdom is so weak and incomplete.

I know, I'm using the Bible as a reference. If you cannot accept the Bible, my arguments will never mean anything because it is my foundation for all truth.

Matthew 13:13-15New International Version (NIV)
13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.


14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

“‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’

1 Corinthians 2:14New International Version (NIV)
14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Proverbs 3:5-7New International Version (NIV)
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
 
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The whole concept is FAITH. Until they grasp this, they will continue to be blind.

I couldn't have said it better myself, brother.
 
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* Actually you guys call it "magic."

Yep, and what's funny is it seems much more magical it all poofed out of thin air than that is was created, yet creation is the Fairy Tale and evolution is "science". :rolleyes:
 
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Evidence for creation?

First...open eyes.

Second...realize how stupid it is to think all you see just appeared from nothing.
It's funny, because that is exactly what creationists claim. "ex nihilo".


Third...draw very, very logical conclusion it must have been created, as in... creating is the only way we have EVER seen anything come into being and we have NEVER seen something from nothing.

1. false dichotomy
2. I have never seen anything "come into being". Care to give an example? Or better yet... meet the challenge of the thread: post original research.

Or does science not allow logic?

Science doesn't allow false dichotomies and other fallacious nonsense.

IOW, I have to prove the clearly white lily is white, and seeing it counts for nothing?

You need to demonstrate the causal chain of events, instead of just asserting it.

You may start by meeting the challenge of the thread, and posting original research and data.
 
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