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Donald Trump is a Threat to America

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Hillary Clinton will bring back the Bush years of foreign aggression.
Evidence, please? I mean, Trump has explicitly said we need to go in there and take over their oil fields, a callback to colonialism of the likes we have not seen in quite some time, but has Clinton offered anything similar?
 
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Evidence, please? I mean, Trump has explicitly said we need to go in there and take over their oil fields, a callback to colonialism of the likes we have not seen in quite some time, but has Clinton offered anything similar?
Clinton has supported every single regime change initiative, including some that haven't even happened yet, while Trump has opposed at least some of them.
To be honest, Trump's ramblings scare me less than the decades long concerted effort to destabilize restructure large portions of the globe that Clinton is a part of.
 
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Hillary Clinton will bring back the Bush years of foreign aggression. Already, the Democratic party is the anti Russia party. A vote for Trump may be the more moral choice of the two.


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Even many Republicans agree: Donald Trump is a threat to America. Is anybody here voting for him?

Anyone who is concerned for our country HAS to vote for him, lest the other party's candidate be elected and continue the trend towards lawlessness and economic stagnation that the current administration has fostered. It's not much more complicated than that, although it's certainly true that there are many who are so out of touch that they don't care to inform themselves of the issues and so will simply look for the donkey lever on the voting machine.
 
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Anyone who is concerned for our country HAS to vote for him, lest the other party's candidate be elected and continue the trend towards lawlessness and economic stagnation that the current administration has fostered. .

More of the same fear mongering we have come to expect from the Trump camp.

The posted words are nothing more than empty words that are designed to frighten.
 
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It's not just America he's a threat to. And the rest of us don't have a vote!
How the alternative, which is a known commodity, could make you sleep easier at night needs to be explained.

All you have with Trump is a host of establishment, professional politicians, telling you to worry...and they're mainly saying that it he's elected THEY may not be able to run things for their own benefit as usual. :)
 
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How the alternative, which is a known commodity, could make you sleep easier at night needs to be explained.

All you have with Trump is a host of establishment, professional politicians, telling you to worry...and they're mainly saying that it he's elected THEY may not be able to run things for their own benefit as usual. :)
No doubt, no doubt. And of course I have the words of Mr Trump himself.
 
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No doubt, no doubt. And of course I have the words of Mr Trump himself.
She's not called "Crooked" for nothing, you know. Giving away classified information, lying to the public and Congress, destroying evidence, leaking classified information, rigging the nomination process, using the Secretary of State position to solicit bribes etc.? If none of that kind of alternative to a Trump presidency causes you any alarm, I can't take your post seriously.
 
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I didn't expect you to. I've read many of your posts on the choice. If I were voting — although Mrs Clinton does not seem the ideal president — I would have no doubt that she should have my vote.
 
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Evidence, please? I mean, Trump has explicitly said we need to go in there and take over their oil fields, a callback to colonialism of the likes we have not seen in quite some time, but has Clinton offered anything similar?
Trump said 'we should have' taken the oil, he's not talking about some new foreign adventure.

He clearly states he doesn't want any more nation-building or interventions. America First the governing principle.
 
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It's not just America he's a threat to. And the rest of us don't have a vote!
As a Brit I do hope he wins. A non-interventionist foreign policy from the USA would suit us well, and prevent our own daft leaders from getting involved in stupid wars and risking British lives

Where as Hillary on the other hand boasts about how her foreign policy is more 'muscular' than Obama's, and says reckless things like how she would enforce a no-fly zone in Syria and shoot down Russian planes! Risking a Third World War doesn't sound too safe a choice to me. (And if she follows through on what she is actually saying, that's not even exaggeration)
 
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Trump said 'we should have' taken the oil, he's not talking about some new foreign adventure.
But The Cadet's accusation was contrived in any case. The Bush administration repeatedly told the American people that we'd be paying for the war in Iraq from the oil there that we'd take in compensation. When the NeverTrump folks have to resort to acting like Trump has just invented something--and it's supposed to be unthinkable--when it's not new at all, you know that the facts are of little interest to them.

He clearly states he doesn't want any more nation-building or interventions.
Quite true, but that's the picture they want to paint of Trump, as absurd as it is--as a warmongering non-interventionist. ^_^
 
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I remember when Regan was running, and he spoke of did military spending. Some were sure war was inevitable after he called: the USSR the Evil Empire. But Carter bless his heart... Despite all his Camp David's got run over left and right! Russia invaded Afghanistan not long after a sit down! I'm actually a moderate! So I vote based on who I think is best qualified for the state our country is in. Right now it's our economy! So... I'm voting Trump as as businessman!! An imperfect analogy: if my AMG was acting hinky... Would I call my IT guy?? He's a smart cat but he can't fix a German engine any more than me! I call a mechanic! Hillary is a career politician she's never been in business.. Bought or sold a company and turned the red to black! If our country is in danger it's critical failures that cause weakness. A strong America =A safe Anerica! Remember I'm speaking as a moderate! I simply don't think he is more dangerous than Hilary! The world has become more dangerous.... How do we know Hillary won't under/overreact to a crisis. I'll be honest I think Trump may be the safer bet!! Just me.. Blessings
 
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How can any rational person trust Donald Trump? His businesses have several times declared bankruptcy, leaving creditors holding the bag. He's lying about his net worth (yes, a billionaire. But closer to 4 than 10. Fortune estimated 3.3B.) He won't release his tax returns (which strongly suggests dissembling to me.) He rails about unfair trade, but virtually all of his branded products are made overseas. In his 60 Minutes interview with Scott Pelley, he boasted about his "terrific" health insurance plan. But on his web site, he rehashes the same old, worn out, sloganeering about unspecified "free market reforms" that Republicans have been pushing for years. And his crackpot anti-vaccine nonsense shows how clueless he is about real, scientific, evidence-based medicine. But most detestable of all is his demagoguery. He's a would-be despot. He's claims he's the only man who can protect us in a dangerous world. He exploits people's base, tribalistic instincts when he scapegoats Mexicans and Muslims. His proposal to wall off the southern border at Mexico's expense is preposterous. And if you think all undocumented immigrants can be rounded up and deported you don't need to visit Disney World--you're already living in Fantasyland. Hillary is ambitious and politically ruthless, but Donald is a megalomaniac con-man and wannabe dictator. He'd be the worst President in this country since Jefferson Davis.
 
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But The Cadet's accusation was contrived in any case. The Bush administration repeatedly told the American people that we'd be paying for the war in Iraq from the oil there that we'd take in compensation.
Of course, that just fed into the "No War For Oil" crowd.
No doubt Iraq should have helped pay for their liberation like Kuwait did. At least we should have protected the oil fields so the terrorists couldn't get them.
Here's the bottom line. If a real prosecutor like Giuliani gets named attorney general, Clinton will go to prison. She was not found innocent of anything. The government refused to prosecute. A Trump appointee will not (I hope).
Yes, there will be voter fraud this year.
Yes, the media will fabricate stories against Trump and carry the water for Hillary.
Yes, the corrupt power brokers on both sides want crooked Hillary to maintain their status.
Yes, if Trump pulls ahead Hillary will get increasingly more desperate.
No, there will not be equal justice in America so long as the current oligarchy maintain their power base.
Yes, Democrats will continue to fall for slogans and identity politics because they are conditioned to feel, not think.
 
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Of course, that just fed into the "No War For Oil" crowd.
Exactly! And that's a very pertinent point. Not only did the Bush administration make that claim, but the Democrats through the last several election cycles made "the war was for oil...Halliburton...Dick Cheney, etc." They beat that drum until it wore out, and now we have the GetTrump crowd trying to rewrite history to make Trump 'beyond the pale' because of his comment!! What a farce.

As I've said before, every lie told on Trump merely has the effect of getting him off the hook for some of the other verbal mistakes he's prone to when speaking off the cuff.
 
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